Is Pacquaio's Power and Finishing skills overrated?

If you read the post again I didn't say he doesn't have power and he can't finish. I am basically asking is his power and finishing skills overrated because many including Manny said if he had Floyd hurt like Shane did Pac would have finished him....I love to see Pac fight but nothing that I have seen in him proves to me he stops Mayweather in two rounds. I gave the Marquez example. Beating Oscar to me was his career defining fight because he wasn't supposed to win that fight...Yeah Oscar might have been weight drain or what not but once you get in the ring the excuses must end.....But it watching that fight it was more about Pac's speed and relentless pressure that was too much for Oscar....Pac never dropped him even after hitting him with so man punches flush....Oscar's inability to defend himself and to land punches cause him to quit but it's not like Pac hurt Oscar cornered him and knocked him out..... The Hatton knockout added to the legend....to me that was an easy one to pick....Hatton got knocked out by Floyd, got hurt several times by Lascano and he has a face first defense....If every Pacman fight was like this I won't make this post....but this was not a typical Pac fight Cotto.....was another tailor-made fighter for Pac....See Cotto has taken his share of whoppins....but his desire and self belief always got him through those times....Magarito beat that out of him...But once again Pacman hit him with everything but the kitchen sink for over 12 rounds.....Cotto could have continued but Bayless did the right thing....Cotto wasn't going to land anything big so that was that...... Clottey was a clown for fighting that style but that was a horrible fight for Manny...he didn't do anything to bring Clottey out his shell Anyways the whole point is that I think Pac is a dynamic fighter but I believe his power and finishing skills are overrated....I remember back to the Larios fight....I was sure Pac would knock him out just after Vazquez had.....and it didn't happen....and I was sure he was going to knock out Barrera the second time and it didn't happen.....those were two guys who were damaged and way past their primes....and that's when I noticed it was his speed and determination were his best assets not his power I wasn't talking to you. Look at my post and who i'm referring to.

If you read the post again I didn't say he doesn't have power and he can't finish. I am basically asking is his power and finishing skills overrated because many including Manny said if he had Floyd hurt like Shane did Pac would have finished him....I love to see Pac fight but nothing that I have seen in him proves to me he stops Mayweather in two rounds. I gave the Marquez example. Beating Oscar to me was his career defining fight because he wasn't supposed to win that fight...Yeah Oscar might have been weight drain or what not but once you get in the ring the excuses must end.....But it watching that fight it was more about Pac's speed and relentless pressure that was too much for Oscar....Pac never dropped him even after hitting him with so man punches flush....Oscar's inability to defend himself and to land punches cause him to quit but it's not like Pac hurt Oscar cornered him and knocked him out..... The Hatton knockout added to the legend....to me that was an easy one to pick....Hatton got knocked out by Floyd, got hurt several times by Lascano and he has a face first defense....If every Pacman fight was like this I won't make this post....but this was not a typical Pac fight Cotto.....was another tailor-made fighter for Pac....See Cotto has taken his share of whoppins....but his desire and self belief always got him through those times....Magarito beat that out of him...But once again Pacman hit him with everything but the kitchen sink for over 12 rounds.....Cotto could have continued but Bayless did the right thing....Cotto wasn't going to land anything big so that was that...... Clottey was a clown for fighting that style but that was a horrible fight for Manny...he didn't do anything to bring Clottey out his shell Anyways the whole point is that I think Pac is a dynamic fighter but I believe his power and finishing skills are overrated....I remember back to the Larios fight....I was sure Pac would knock him out just after Vazquez had.....and it didn't happen....and I was sure he was going to knock out Barrera the second time and it didn't happen.....those were two guys who were damaged and way past their primes....and that's when I noticed it was his speed and determination were his best assets not his power I wasn't talking to you. Look at my post and who i'm referring to. However, hindsight is 20/20 I'll repeat: Originally Posted by T.I. View Post excuses .. excuses.. Oscar: Never beaten (embarrassed) this bad by anyone. Hatton: Never beaten this bad by anyone. Cotto: Never beaten this bad by anyone (atleast without plaster) Clottey: Never beaten this bad by anyone. all by a smaller man. LOL Manny made them look like bums... :drive:

The difference is, Manny doesn't have one-punch KO power like Mosley does. Thus, he's not going to hurt Floyd that bad with one punch. The real difference is, when Shane threw 1 punches, Manny would have thrown 4.

excuses .. excuses.. Oscar: Never beaten (embarrassed) this bad by anyone. Hatton: Never beaten this bad by anyone. Cotto: Never beaten this bad by anyone (atleast without plaster) Clottey: Never beaten this bad by anyone. all by a smaller man. LOL :drive: If you read the post again I didn't say he doesn't have power and he can't finish. I am basically asking is his power and finishing skills overrated because many including Manny said if he had Floyd hurt like Shane did Pac would have finished him....I love to see Pac fight but nothing that I have seen in him proves to me he stops Mayweather in two rounds. I gave the Marquez example. Beating Oscar to me was his career defining fight because he wasn't supposed to win that fight...Yeah Oscar might have been weight drain or what not but once you get in the ring the excuses must end.....But it watching that fight it was more about Pac's speed and relentless pressure that was too much for Oscar....Pac never dropped him even after hitting him with so man punches flush....Oscar's inability to defend himself and to land punches cause him to quit but it's not like Pac hurt Oscar cornered him and knocked him out..... The Hatton knockout added to the legend....to me that was an easy one to pick....Hatton got knocked out by Floyd, got hurt several times by Lascano and he has a face first defense....If every Pacman fight was like this I won't make this post....but this was not a typical Pac fight Cotto.....was another tailor-made fighter for Pac....See Cotto has taken his share of whoppins....but his desire and self belief always got him through those times....Magarito beat that out of him...But once again Pacman hit him with everything but the kitchen sink for over 12 rounds.....Cotto could have continued but Bayless did the right thing....Cotto wasn't going to land anything big so that was that...... Clottey was a clown for fighting that style but that was a horrible fight for Manny...he didn't do anything to bring Clottey out his shell Anyways the whole point is that I think Pac is a dynamic fighter but I believe his power and finishing skills are overrated....I remember back to the Larios fight....I was sure Pac would knock him out just after Vazquez had.....and it didn't happen....and I was sure he was going to knock out Barrera the second time and it didn't happen.....those were two guys who were damaged and way past their primes....and that's when I noticed it was his speed and determination were his best assets not his power

Whatever dude,who's the girl in your avatar? That's Stacey Dash......

oscar- weight drained cotto- weight drained and pac did not put any punishment on clottey. If you watched the fight pac was banged up not clottey. Welcome to the hate club. :drive:

Getting put down with a body shot as your first knock out loss. Is much worse than being obviously weight drained, under weight, and needing an IV to rehydrate. Sorry. I know your nuthuggery runs deep in your family blood but nothing for Oscar is worse than Hopkins putting him down with a body shot. Um nope. Before the B Hop vs Oscar fight, it was not crazy to think B Hop could hurt ODLH. B Hop is a big boy. Before the Manny vs Oscar fight, people looked at it as a circus matchup. People were saying ODLH would knock manny out with the jab in the first round. LOL!. The little blown up lightweight embarrassed De La Hoya. Dude QUIT to a smaller man.. Nuthug? LOL!. I stated facts.. you are just straight up hating.. Hate runs deep man. :drive:

How so? You're assuming I haven't watching BHop vs Oscar on what basis? What does that have to do with anything? Oscar was embarrassed by the little filipino and nothing you say or do can rewrite history.. :drive: Getting put down with a body shot as your first knock out loss. Is much worse than being obviously weight drained, under weight, and needing an IV to rehydrate. Sorry. I know your nuthuggery runs deep in your family blood but nothing for Oscar is worse than Hopkins putting him down with a body shot.

Excuses... I take it you not only have double standards(okay to make excuses but not for everyone else), but you haven't watched Hopkins-Oscar either. :thinking: How so? You're assuming I haven't watching BHop vs Oscar on what basis? What does that have to do with anything? Oscar was embarrassed by the little filipino and nothing you say or do can rewrite history.. :drive:

excuses .. excuses.. Oscar: Never beaten (embarrassed) this bad by anyone. Hatton: Never beaten this bad by anyone. Cotto: Never beaten this bad by anyone (atleast without plaster) Clottey: Never beaten this bad by anyone. all by a smaller man. LOL :drive: Excuses... I take it you not only have double standards(okay to make excuses but not for everyone else), but you haven't watched Hopkins-Oscar either. :thinking:

oscar and hatton are both pretty weak opponents, and also floyd's leftovers, compared to floyd and pac so throw them out the window. all you got is cotto. and that cotto was marg ravaged. so a freshly defeated cotto. excuses .. excuses.. Oscar: Never beaten (embarrassed) this bad by anyone. Hatton: Never beaten this bad by anyone. Cotto: Never beaten this bad by anyone (atleast without plaster) Clottey: Never beaten this bad by anyone. all by a smaller man. LOL :drive:

Huh? I said they were good displays of finishing. It's his power I questioned. Oh read it wrong....about the power, he uses it differently then 1 punch KO guys. He wears down guys and stops them, Mosley on the other hand tries for a 1 punch KO. Name me one fighter that can throw such big, smooth combos with so much power

Yea he fought B compitition before he died and the top guys would not buckle like that Shit, I forgot he died. I guess he gets his 100% KO.

Pacman's record clearly shows how accurate he was in stopping his opponents. His KO percentage was much better than Floyd Jr.

Malnaggi and Foreman have great hand speed too but the outcome is not the same. He has great power in his very fast combos and without the power combined with that handspeed, he wouldnt be where he is. His game plan is to wear the guy down and then stop him so he doesnt fight like Mosley looking for a 1 punch KO And explain to me how DLH, Hattton and Cotto fights werent all great displays of a finisher Huh? I said they were good displays of finishing. It's his power I questioned.

For now. There isn't a single great fighter that's retired with 100% KO, as far as I know. Everyone that fights other great fighters has to go 12 at some point. Yea he fought B compitition before he died and the top guys would not buckle like that

Power yes, but not finishing skills. Because of the KO streak Pac was on before Clottey, his power gets overhyped. Hatton is the only guy Pac has iced in recent fights. Diaz, Oscar, and Cotto got ripped up by his handspeed. And it took him dishing out sustained beatdowns over several rounds for those guys to get stopped. Pac can get rid of a guy he hurts, but he ain't a one punch KO artist. Malnaggi and Foreman have great hand speed too but the outcome is not the same. He has great power in his very fast combos and without the power combined with that handspeed, he wouldnt be where he is. His game plan is to wear the guy down and then stop him so he doesnt fight like Mosley looking for a 1 punch KO And explain to me how DLH, Hattton and Cotto fights werent all great displays of a finisher

Edwin Valero For now. There isn't a single great fighter that's retired with 100% KO, as far as I know. Everyone that fights other great fighters has to go 12 at some point.

Power yes, but not finishing skills. Because of the KO streak Pac was on before Clottey, his power gets overhyped. Hatton is the only guy Pac has iced in recent fights. Diaz, Oscar, and Cotto got ripped up by his handspeed. And it took him dishing out sustained beatdowns over several rounds for those guys to get stopped. Pac can get rid of a guy he hurts, but he ain't a one punch KO artist.

Pac has good power and finishing skills. Not sure that's really debatable. Maybe he doesn't have 1 punch KO power at WW, but he hits plenty hard enough. He should have finished Marquez in that first fight, but Marques is a slick warrior. Nobody has a 100% KO percentage, so Marquez getting away can be forgiven. Edwin Valero