I'm referring to the nation of islam. Some say it claims whites are devils, this is false, however it seems to follow the same line of Eugenics (the blueprint that the third reich used to attempt to create a master race) They believe black men are the 'true humans', and that whites are not as evolved, and that black people should rule the earth. This kind of reasoning is what the theories of eugenics centers around, (if you don't know what eugenics is, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics) also eugenics is what spawned the ideology that more or less caused world war 2...the nazi mindset, etc was all based on them wanting to create a master race...just like islams....
I personally feel that it's a bunch of evil horseshit propaganda, on a scientology style level... the question is this...
Now, I understand traditional muslims don't believe what nation of islam muslims do...Was Muhammad Ali a traditional muslim, or was he a nation of islam muslim who believed whites weren't as evolved and that blacks should rule the earth?
Interesting thread this. On the other hand, is this about boxing or a discussion for the lounge?
btw, do we have any evidence that democracy really exists?
I asked you to come up with a credible link because I'm educated and know you're full of shit, daniel son.You say blacks were the first people, yet it's well documented at the same point in time people of the southern Indian peninsula, and New Guineans...also the pale skins of Amazonian Indians and Southeast Asians living at the same latitudes...get your facts right
I'm sorry I don't have a credible link to give you. It's not something I learned on the "internet." It's something I have researched and read for years, and also traveled in search of. As for as the people of the southern Indian peninsula...who do you think they were? :lol1:. I don't even wanna embarrass you - just do yourself a favor and take your own advice.
The Playboy journalist, who interviewed the boxer, was closer to the mark when he observed of his subject: "You're beginning to sound like a carbon copy of a white racist."
All mixed race couples should be killed
- Muhammad Ali, playboy interview
WTF are you talking about? This isn't some article on a fight. It's freaking history. Go do your research, man. Not to be disrespectful but geezus...how the f*ck old are you? I wouldn't say 1000 AD (as the Roman-Egyptians had changed the landscape) but the world today isn't what it was then. Not sure what you're specifically asking but go do your HW first.
I asked you to come up with a credible link because I'm educated and know you're full of shit, daniel son.You say blacks were the first people, yet it's well documented at the same point in time people of the southern Indian peninsula, and New Guineans and also the pale skins of Amazonian Indians and Southeast Asians all living at the same latitudes, what do you have to say about that? lol
Do you have a link to back up your claim?
WTF are you talking about? This isn't some article on a fight. It's freaking history. Go do your research, man. Not to be disrespectful but geezus...how the f*ck old are you? I wouldn't say 1000 AD (as the Roman-Egyptians had changed the landscape) but the world today isn't what it was then. Not sure what you're specifically asking but go do your HW first.
He was indeed.
It was different times back then. Segregation (sp?) was all over the south. It was apartheid and some blacks found an identity in the nation of islam.
I'm not american, but I would think the US has come a long way so that organisations like that wouldn't be successful today.
Do you have a link to back up your claim?
Under the influence of Elijah Mohammad — who preached that blacks should refuse to integrate with "white devils" — Ali made a point of dating only black women and lashed out at men and women who engaged in interracial sex. In an interview with Playboy, he declared: "A black man should be killed if he's messing with a white woman." When the interviewer asked about black women crossing the colour barrier, Ali responded: "Then she dies. Kill her, too."
It's unlikely that a white athlete who made such remarks would receive the praise that Michael Mann heaps on Ali. He says that the fighter "personified racial pride and self-knowledge". The Playboy journalist, who interviewed the boxer, was closer to the mark when he observed of his subject: "You're beginning to sound like a carbon copy of a white racist."
Muhammad was a part of Nation of Islam but then realised his ways after being spoken to by Malcolm X.
They were taught that blacks are victims all over the world and never treated equally. Malcolm X went on the Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca and saw black men standing shoulder to shoulder with people of all colour and realised the true techings of Islam.
He then moved away from the NOI movement and spoke to Ali on the matter. Ali at first considered him a traitor and never spoke to him. After his passing, he researched himself and found Malcolm spoke the truth.
Ali is now a Sunni Muslim and is under the guidance of a great scholar by the name of Shaykh Nazim.
you nation of islam followers should be ashamed of yourself, seriously...this is like neo nazi shit. I can't believe I didn't know this stuff before...
im glad ali's punched out, **** him