Mayweather better than Ali and Robinson? Ha
Posted Apr. 23, 2010 at 11:38pm
By Michael Rosenthal
When Muhammad Ali said he was The Greatest, you tended to believe him. When Floyd Mayweather Jr. says the same thing, well …
Mayweather was asked on a conference call a few days ago whether he actually believes what he has said in the past, that he’s a better fighter than were both heavyweight legend Ali and the consensus greatest-ever Sugar Ray Robinson.
He answered in the affirmative.
“Why not?,” he said. “I take my hat off to them. I got respect for Sugar Ray Robinson. I've got respect for Muhammad Ali. But I'm a man just like they're men. I put on my pants just like they put on their pants. What makes them any better than I am? Because they fought a thousand fights? In my era, it's totally different. You know? It's pay-per-view now, so things change. It's out with the old and in with the new. Things change. Like I said, Muhammad Ali is one hell of a fighter. But Floyd Mayweather is the best. Sugar Ray Robinson is one hell of a fighter, but Floyd Mayweather is the best.”
Here’s a quick why not:
Robinson could do everything Mayweather can – and much more. He had power and wasn’t afraid to use it, as Mayweather seems to be. Robinson actually took risks in order to take out his opponents and entertain the fans. And consider this: He started his career 119-1-2 during an era deep in talent and was still fighting for titles into his 40s. Robinson fought 30-plus fights against Hall of Famers.
Ali could do everything Mayweather can – at heavyweight. And, although he wasn’t as aggressive as Robinson was, he too went after his opponents more than Mayweather does. Ali dominating the richest era ever in the heavyweight division, fighting 13 times against hall of famers. And he had charisma that Mayweather couldn’t begin to replicate.
Who has Mayweather beaten? Jose Luis Castillo? Ricky Hatton? An aging Oscar De La Hoya? That doesn't stack against the likes of Jake LaMotta and Kid Gavilan or Sonny Liston and Joe Frazier.
Make no mistake: Mayweather is a future Hall of Famer and one of the best fighters of his time. To compare him to the likes of Ali and Robinson is ridiculous, however. He needs to prove a lot more before we can even entertain such a concept.
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^Hey floyd? Instead of sulking, how about learning humility some day:
Just when I begin the nsb is being taken over by 14 year old Mayweather fans that know no other boxer, members suprise me with the truth. Thank you
don't really understand your post...............:thinking:
Robinson could do everything Mayweather can – and much more
i swear robinson had next to no defence
Mayweather couldn't carry Robinson's jock strap. That is my opinion.
Just when I begin the nsb is being taken over by 14 year old Mayweather fans that know no other boxer, members suprise me with the truth. Thank you
In the current era Mayweather is the best there is going.
Mayweather is an unbeaten fighter with 5 titles in 5 diferent divisions. At the end of the day 41 have tried 41 have failed. Mayweather has every right to consider himself the greatest of all time, haters are just jealous.
:haha::haha:
Mayweather doesn't believe that, but if you say others are better than you it kinda takes something away from you.
True, he dont believe hes better than Pac as well.
PBF is a helluva fighter, but Pac is the best.
Ronaldo looks sweet and innocent looking at that mans package.
it aint trash talk if you back it up... fighters have different personalities but unlike haye floyd backs up what he says and doesnt back down from what he says ( testing, old deal is not on the table again next time)
Soounds like hate to me.
Q-tips have been known to be good for cleaning ya ears.....I think ear grime is affecting your ability to hear clearly.....that wasn't hate....that was TRUTH!!!.....so easy to hear and see that!!
After watching the Ray Robinson highlight video, it did not look like anything he threw would have affect on Mayweather, Floyd would Shoulder roll all of Robinson's shot, then pot shot him, kinda like the mosley fight.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but was Ali considered the greatest the whole time he was saying it, cause i thought he was considered an arrogant big mouthed fighter by his peers. It's easy to say now Ali was accepted as the greatest but i'm not old enough to know for sure what people thought while he was fighting. I don't consider Mayweather the GOAT but I imagine his intentions when he got into the sport wasn't to stop short of being the greatest, so if that what he believes so be it.
Muhamamd ALi became more humble towards the second half of his career. Also combined with the fact that he was unjustly stripped of his boxing license, people always rooted for him post exile.
His british fans even started a campaign to get Ali's licsence back, they stuck behind him all the time.
For this reason Ali admired his British fans the most.
Even most of his interviews were on british TV and British chatshows etc.
You'd even think he was a british fighter, the way he got accustomed to their variation in English Language.
BTW are you "nightowl" ALT?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but was Ali considered the greatest the whole time he was saying it, cause i thought he was considered an arrogant big mouthed fighter by his peers. It's easy to say now Ali was accepted as the greatest but i'm not old enough to know for sure what people thought while he was fighting. I don't consider Mayweather the GOAT but I imagine his intentions when he got into the sport wasn't to stop short of being the greatest, so if that what he believes so be it.
Muhamamd ALi became more humble towards the second half of his career. Also combined with the fact that he was unjustly stripped of his boxing license, people always rooted for him post exile.
His british fans even started a campaign to get Ali's licsence back, they stuck behind him all the time.
For this reason Ali admired his British fans the most.
Even most of his interviews were on british TV and British chatshows etc.
You'd even think he was a british fighter, the way he got accustomed to their variation in English Language.
BTW are you "nightowl" ALT?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but was Ali considered the greatest the whole time he was saying it, cause i thought he was considered an arrogant big mouthed fighter by his peers. It's easy to say now Ali was accepted as the greatest but i'm not old enough to know for sure what people thought while he was fighting. I don't consider Mayweather the GOAT but I imagine his intentions when he got into the sport wasn't to stop short of being the greatest, so if that what he believes so be it.
Because he wanted to? I am not Sweet Pea, you asked what happened to Sweet Pea I told you he did a lot of coke that eventually catches up with anyone.
That is also why I have more respect for Floyd than Sweet Pea, Floyd doesn't do bullshit like that therefore cheating the fans out of his true best, how they get rated at their true best is a matter of opinion.
that is a good reason to respect floyd more. You are right.
But sweet pea was a much braver fighter than floyd will ever be.
Because he wanted to? I am not Sweet Pea, you asked what happened to Sweet Pea I told you he did a lot of coke that eventually catches up with anyone.
That is also why I have more respect for Floyd than Sweet Pea, Floyd doesn't do bullshit like that therefore cheating the fans out of his true best, how they get rated at their true best is a matter of opinion.
that is a good reason to respect floyd more. You are right.
that's not a PED though. Why would he use it?
Because he wanted to? I am not Sweet Pea, you asked what happened to Sweet Pea I told you he did a lot of coke that eventually catches up with anyone.
That is also why I have more respect for Floyd than Sweet Pea, Floyd doesn't do bullshit like that therefore cheating the fans out of his true best, how they get rated at their true best is a matter of opinion.
Mayweather better than Ali and Robinson? Ha
Posted Apr. 23, 2010 at 11:38pm
By Michael Rosenthal
When Muhammad Ali said he was The Greatest, you tended to believe him. When Floyd Mayweather Jr. says the same thing, well …
Mayweather was asked on a conference call a few days ago whether he actually believes what he has said in the past, that he’s a better fighter than were both heavyweight legend Ali and the consensus greatest-ever Sugar Ray Robinson.
He answered in the affirmative.
“Why not?,” he said. “I take my hat off to them. I got respect for Sugar Ray Robinson. I've got respect for Muhammad Ali. But I'm a man just like they're men. I put on my pants just like they put on their pants. What makes them any better than I am? Because they fought a thousand fights? In my era, it's totally different. You know? It's pay-per-view now, so things change. It's out with the old and in with the new. Things change. Like I said, Muhammad Ali is one hell of a fighter. But Floyd Mayweather is the best. Sugar Ray Robinson is one hell of a fighter, but Floyd Mayweather is the best.”
Here’s a quick why not:
Robinson could do everything Mayweather can – and much more. He had power and wasn’t afraid to use it, as Mayweather seems to be. Robinson actually took risks in order to take out his opponents and entertain the fans. And consider this: He started his career 119-1-2 during an era deep in talent and was still fighting for titles into his 40s. Robinson fought 30-plus fights against Hall of Famers.
Ali could do everything Mayweather can – at heavyweight. And, although he wasn’t as aggressive as Robinson was, he too went after his opponents more than Mayweather does. Ali dominating the richest era ever in the heavyweight division, fighting 13 times against hall of famers. And he had charisma that Mayweather couldn’t begin to replicate.
Who has Mayweather beaten? Jose Luis Castillo? Ricky Hatton? An aging Oscar De La Hoya? That doesn't stack against the likes of Jake LaMotta and Kid Gavilan or Sonny Liston and Joe Frazier.
Make no mistake: Mayweather is a future Hall of Famer and one of the best fighters of his time. To compare him to the likes of Ali and Robinson is ridiculous, however. He needs to prove a lot more before we can even entertain such a concept.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39864000/jpg/_39864427_02602_su_goat_09.jpg
http://www.monroegallery.com/showcase/images/Ali_SugarRay_big.jpg
http://www.pdngallery.com/legends/archive/bingham/art/ali_joe_lewis.JPG
http://garnett21k.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mayweather.jpg
^Hey floyd? Instead of sulking, how about learning humility some day:
We all know....as does Floyd that he is not the greatest fighter to ever laced up the gloves. Why would he admit it? Its part of his act.
why did Whitakers skill's deteriorate? I thought skills were for life. He didn't rely on his reflexes, so what happened? did his mind go bad?
Pernel blew his skills up his nose~ if you want to respect that do be it~
That is not even it, they are both great defensive fighters but what they want to do in the ring is different, it is like comparing a ruby to an emerald both are gem stones but the comparison kind of end there.
why did Whitakers skill's deteriorate? I thought skills were for life. He didn't rely on his reflexes, so what happened? did his mind go bad?
yes pernell is a sowthpaw
That is not even it, they are both great defensive fighters but what they want to do in the ring is different, it is like comparing a ruby to an emerald both are gem stones but the comparison kind of end there.
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