Confidence Levels In Roy Jones Chin?

I have no idea but who uses that as a barometer? Manny Pacquiao's KO ratio is slightly higher than Mayweather's but who has been far and away the harder puncher through various divisions? The only stats that matter are W's & L's in boxing. Sweet Pea was a soft puncher if you let these fools tell it. Anyway, Del Valle was a very hard puncher and had a very hard chin. Not to mention was an awkward southpaw. Dropped Hill. Dropped Jones. Two guys who were very hard to drop in their primes. No I wasn't using it as a barometer. I just wanted to know out of interest. We can judge his punching power by far better factors, like those you mentioned.

I have no idea but who uses that as a barometer? Manny Pacquiao's KO ratio is slightly higher than Mayweather's but who has been far and away the harder puncher through various divisions? The only stats that matter are W's & L's in boxing. Sweet Pea was a soft puncher if you let these fools tell it. Anyway, Del Valle was a very hard puncher and had a very hard chin. Not to mention was an awkward southpaw. Dropped Hill. Dropped Jones. Two guys who were very hard to drop in their primes. No It wasn't using it as a barometer. I just wanted to know out of interest. We can judge his punching power by far better factors, like those you mentioned.:fing02: .

I have no idea but who uses that as a barometer? Manny Pacquiao's KO ratio is slightly higher than Mayweather's but who has been far and away the harder puncher through various divisions? The only stats that matter are W's & L's in boxing. Sweet Pea was a soft puncher if you let these fools tell it. Anyway, Del Valle was a very hard puncher and had a very hard chin. Not to mention was an awkward southpaw. Dropped Hill. Dropped Jones. Two guys who were very hard to drop in their primes. No It wasn't using it as a barometer. I just wanted to know out of interest. We can judge his punching power by far better factors, like those you mentioned.:fing02:

I have no idea but who uses that as a barometer? Manny Pacquiao's KO ratio is slightly higher than Mayweather's but who has been far and away the harder puncher through various divisions? The only stats that matter are W's & L's in boxing. Sweet Pea was a soft puncher if you let these fools tell it. Anyway, Del Valle was a very hard puncher and had a very hard chin. Not to mention was an awkward southpaw. Dropped Hill. Dropped Jones. Two guys who were very hard to drop in their primes. No I wasn't using it as a barometer. I just wanted to know out of interest. We can judge his punching power by far better factors, like those you mentioned.:fing02:

what was Del Valle's KO ratio? I have no idea but who uses that as a barometer? Manny Pacquiao's KO ratio is slightly higher than Mayweather's but who has been far and away the harder puncher through various divisions? The only stats that matter are W's & L's in boxing. Sweet Pea was a soft puncher if you let these fools tell it. Anyway, Del Valle was a very hard puncher and had a very hard chin. Not to mention was an awkward southpaw. Dropped Hill. Dropped Jones. Two guys who were very hard to drop in their primes.

Del Valle was a pretty hard puncher, I don't know where you get that he wasn't. How many people were able to drop Virgil Hill??? Ok then. Del Valled weighed 192 against Jones, on top of that. what was Del Valle's KO ratio?

7. Roy was plenty able to take punches before the weight drain. I twisted my lips when watching the lou de valle knockdown. If I saw correctly his legs very wobbling on the way to the canvas.That can't be a good sign. That's why I went with number 6.

7. Roy was plenty able to take punches before the weight drain.

Before dropping back to light heavy again he had a fine chin. He took punches from Hopkins, John Ruiz and alot of harder punchers. He was no George Chuvalo but his chin was not in question.

Jones was always more about avoiding flush shots than chin - his legs went, that's what got him KTFO all those times. He never had a good chin, it simply didn't show because he wasn't getting hit with shots he didn't see.

It was his lack of confidence when things weren't going his way more than anything else in my opinion. Yes, mental stamina/confidence can affect your chin

It was his lack of confidence when things weren't going his way more than anything else in my opinion.

He had a decent chin. I don't think it got much worse. You saw when De Valle hit him with a shot he didn't see , before Ruiz, and it was a short, straight punch on the chin, what it could do. De Valle was a hack with little power. The punches that land on him a lot in that vid are wide, looping, winged shots which usually land on the side of the face, front or are semi slapping shots and not many are one punch KO guys either. It's a hard thing to judge. He had an ok chin. Nothing special at all but he wasn't getting knocked down by jabs etc. At MW and even SMW, he was also a lot bigger than the guys he fought. The best shot was probably by Castro and that looked to shake Jones up a bit, but again, it was a winged shot at the end of a long arc and Jones would've seen it coming. Hugely different from the punch De Valle and then Tarver caught him with. They were short, straight, hard punches that he didn't see and landed right on the chin. Ok, nothing great. That vid makes out as if the De Valle fight was after Ruiz and was later on in the devolution. In was in the middle of his greatest run, right in his prime. De Valle was shit and couldn't beat anyone good. It just shows that people are seeing what they want to see. He had a good chin, but if you hit him right, he would go down. Also: Griffin did not have very good power. He threw weird angled punches which hit you without you knowing often which is why he would very briefly stun some people, but he could not have ever genuinely hurt any of those guys. Jones was simply not hit cleanly very often with a hard punch. That's all. Del Valle was a pretty hard puncher, I don't know where you get that he wasn't. How many people were able to drop Virgil Hill??? Ok then. Del Valled weighed 192 against Jones, on top of that.

He had a decent chin. I don't think it got much worse. You saw when De Valle hit him with a shot he didn't see , before Ruiz, and it was a short, straight punch on the chin, what it could do. De Valle was a hack with little power. The punches that land on him a lot in that vid are wide, looping, winged shots which usually land on the side of the face, front or are semi slapping shots and not many are one punch KO guys either. It's a hard thing to judge. He had an ok chin. Nothing special at all but he wasn't getting knocked down by jabs etc. At MW and even SMW, he was also a lot bigger than the guys he fought. The best shot was probably by Castro and that looked to shake Jones up a bit, but again, it was a winged shot at the end of a long arc and Jones would've seen it coming. Hugely different from the punch De Valle and then Tarver caught him with. They were short, straight, hard punches that he didn't see and landed right on the chin. Ok, nothing great. That vid makes out as if the De Valle fight was after Ruiz and was later on in the devolution. In was in the middle of his greatest run, right in his prime. De Valle was shit and couldn't beat anyone good. It just shows that people are seeing what they want to see. He had a good chin, but if you hit him right, he would go down. Also: Griffin did not have very good power. He threw weird angled punches which hit you without you knowing often which is why he would very briefly stun some people, but he could not have ever genuinely hurt any of those guys. Jones was simply not hit cleanly very often with a hard punch. That's all. what about griffins short right hand that landed as perfect as any punch could land? or griffins left hook? or maybe reggie johnsons right hook which he nearly killed guthrie with? what about ruiz's big straight right? looping? or his left hook? and what about del valle's straight left at the beggining? i'd say that virtually had the same if not more power than the straight left in round 8, where del valle was showing less speed and activity than the first couple of rounds who's seeing what they want to see? do you think that it looked like jones sorta stumbled because he was literally lifted from his feet from castro's punch? and that castro's left arm then followed to the back of his head pushing him down? if you've ever boxed you'd know it's alot easier to shake off shots if your standing still than when your caught on the move which could cause you to miss a step, also jones was hit on the temple he seemed alright when he got up but why am i argueing, we all know your a jones hater oh yea, and i guess castro could'nt punch fro shit neither

He had a decent chin. I don't think it got much worse. You saw when De Valle hit him with a shot he didn't see , before Ruiz, and it was a short, straight punch on the chin, what it could do. De Valle was a hack with little power. The punches that land on him a lot in that vid are wide, looping, winged shots which usually land on the side of the face, front or are semi slapping shots and not many are one punch KO guys either. It's a hard thing to judge. He had an ok chin. Nothing special at all but he wasn't getting knocked down by jabs etc. At MW and even SMW, he was also a lot bigger than the guys he fought. The best shot was probably by Castro and that looked to shake Jones up a bit, but again, it was a winged shot at the end of a long arc and Jones would've seen it coming. Hugely different from the punch De Valle and then Tarver caught him with. They were short, straight, hard punches that he didn't see and landed right on the chin. Ok, nothing great. That vid makes out as if the De Valle fight was after Ruiz and was later on in the devolution. In was in the middle of his greatest run, right in his prime. De Valle was shit and couldn't beat anyone good. It just shows that people are seeing what they want to see. He had a good chin, but if you hit him right, he would go down. Also: Griffin did not have very good power. He threw weird angled punches which hit you without you knowing often which is why he would very briefly stun some people, but he could not have ever genuinely hurt any of those guys. Jones was simply not hit cleanly very often with a hard punch. That's all.

During the run...and I mean the p4p reign and peak of Roy Jones, he had a Superb chin. He has got blasted and walked right through them, even Ruiz got him with some legitimate punches and Jones was not phased. The reason he was so great at his peak was because he had it all, people want to forget that now and just focus on the sweet sensation they got by seeing him humanized by age and diminished confidence, but the fact is Jones was at his peak flawless. His chin was unquestionable when he was firing on all cylinders. I was actually quite surprised, how he took those shots by ruiz.

During the run...and I mean the p4p reign and peak of Roy Jones, he had a Superb chin. He has got blasted and walked right through them, even Ruiz got him with some legitimate punches and Jones was not phased. The reason he was so great at his peak was because he had it all, people want to forget that now and just focus on the sweet sensation they got by seeing him humanized by age and diminished confidence, but the fact is Jones was at his peak flawless. His chin was unquestionable when he was firing on all cylinders.

Damn that is the greatest mystery, Roy had a sturdy/durable chin early on. I truly believe that he was at the wrong side of 35 years old when he fought both Ruiz and Tarver 8 months apart with a 20 pound weight deficit. His last night in the ring should have been against Ruiz and now his record resemebles that of a great boxer staying in the business far to long. 49-1 or even after the 1st Tarver fight 50-1 Yes, you are right, retiring after Ruiz would've been perfect. But you can't blame Jones because he has the heart of a competitor so he did what he wanted to do.

green k sent. Don't mind if I add it to my original post do you? :fing02: Damn that is the greatest mystery, Roy had a sturdy/durable chin early on. I truly believe that he was at the wrong side of 35 years old when he fought both Ruiz and Tarver 8 months apart with a 20 pound weight deficit. His last night in the ring should have been against Ruiz and now his record resemebles that of a great boxer staying in the business far to long. 49-1 or even after the 1st Tarver fight 50-1

The first video is rubbish, it's not a video of Roy Jones chin. It's a video of glancing blows and Roy Jones knockouts. The second one is much better. I've chnaged them around now