Things that p*ss you off about boxing!

Max Kellerman. I love the guy until the day he started commenting boxing for HBO.

Oh thats an ABC question... now boxing a many others sports is about the money no the love and passion for the game, the competition, the pride. And even worst they talk about the money with or without realizing (I don't know) that its insulting, irritating to the fans.

Tunney, aside from being a libelous liar, you're officially a cowardly bitch. You intentionally kept my name out of your mouth on this site in your latest thread talking about commentators, but you're keeping it up on another site: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=123025 I already proved your ass to be blatantly wrong. Get your act together.

lax PED testing...................

Part 2 - I hate paying for PPV I hate paying for PPV with a bad card I dislike Bob Arum and his rosey cheeks lol Excessive clinching I dislike most "big" fights being in Las Vegas (Live on east coast) I dislike national anthems that are destroyed by bad croners (singers) I don't like Catchweights...too much room for "What if" results I don't like belts (too many) I dislike "Diamond belts" I don't have one. I dislike Jimmy Lennon Jr mouth (it looks dry) I joke

American managers and promoters protecting the shit out of their guys to the point of C-/D+ guys getting title shots, and then getting completely owned by Mexican/European fighters. Not to take anything away from mexican or Europeans, but greed has absolutely ruined boxing here. Example: Arreola fighting a security guard before his fight with Vitali.

Come to think of it I hate that most so called boxing experts have never boxed or anything in their lives, how can kellerman think he knows what he is talking about? he would argue with Roy Jones Jr on how to fight, i mean seriously whats wrong with these people? For that i can only give you one example of Enzo Calzaghe. Father and trainer of former undisputed Super Middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe. He has never boxed in his life, infact he was a singer and turned to coaching his son coz he couldnt do much in music field. My conclusion : You dont need to have pro-boxing experience to have some knowledge about the sport. You don't have to be a chef to be a good food critic.........I guess this can be applied to boxing as well......... 1)And with the direction of your logic.......you will say why are there some boxing trainer who never box before, training boxers. 2) Why are some shitty former boxer good trainers and good former boxers such a shitty trainer?. and so on...

Come to think of it I hate that most so called boxing experts have never boxed or anything in their lives, how can kellerman think he knows what he is talking about? he would argue with Roy Jones Jr on how to fight, i mean seriously whats wrong with these people? For that i can only give you one example of Enzo Calzaghe. Father and trainer of former undisputed Super Middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe. He has never boxed in his life, infact he was a singer and turned to coaching his son coz he couldnt do much in music field. My conclusion : You dont need to have pro-boxing experience to have some knowledge about the sport.

Up and coming fighters being used as sacrificial lambs for other good fighters when they go to their land and then get robbed by decision if they happen to be better than they thought. Not enough "free" boxing on tv......this PPV is probably the one killing boxing. Not enough corporate sponsors so that fights can be free for all to see.And purse can be bigger as well. People who says they love boxing yet their actions are the ones killing it. That's all for now....:purity: TS you got me started here...... Green K for you.

Come to think of it I hate that most so called boxing experts have never boxed or anything in their lives, how can kellerman think he knows what he is talking about? he would argue with Roy Jones Jr on how to fight, i mean seriously whats wrong with these people? Because Lennox Lewis's boxing experience made him such a great commentator, right? Who made better points during those broadcasts: Lewis or some non-combatant? How many boxing fans have boxed on a professional level at the highest class? Does that mean their informed opinions are completely invalid? Who should be allowed to analyze presidential politics? Both Bushes, Clinton and Carter, and nobody else? There is a such thing as an educated, informed opinion. And the best journalists augment their education and their information by interviewing those who see things they don't or experienced things they didn't. A boxing writer may never have gotten in the ring, but he can have seen and learned enough to break down what a boxer is doing or not doing, to analyze what could be done, and then to get quotes from an expert to augment the analysis.

were do we start 1. greedy promoters who only care about the green instead of the sport or fighters 2. robberies that give victories to fighters who are the hometown fighter or a fighter who are with certain promoters and got media hype judging on the fights should be more fair 3. 4 belts in each division there should only should be 1 champion that way u want to be champ the best got to fight the best and no more BS title fights 4. more fights on free tv instead of ppv means more viewers= more exposure duh and if there are fights on ppv stack up the undercard as people are bascially paying for just the main event give people their moneys worth 5. there are too many weight classes i mean come on some only have 3 pound difference there should only be 10 divisions max that way those divisions get more spotlighted as there is lesser divisions

I think Boxing would be better if the Jr, and Super classes were entirely eliminated. We'd have, Featherweight, Lightweight, Welter, Middle, Light Heavy, and 200+ is Heavyweight. This would not only make each champion more respected, but it would make boxing more competitive as a whole because the belt will be more sought after. One sanctioning body, with five people who make major decisions about upcoming fights, and matches on the world level. - E. Steward, D. Fischer, Lennox Lewis, Bernstein, George Foreman These 5 guys would decide basically everything about the sport...I feel these 5 guys would run it much better, 500% better, than the current system.

David Haye facing Audley Harrison with all the other great opposition out there!!!!

Call my crazy but there should only be 1 belt per weight class, 1 champion. The fight would have to fight the best, the way it is now two champions in the same weight class can go on for years without ever having to fight each other. That pisses me off.

What pisses me off the most is when two of the greatest fighters of modern day boxing can't come to terms to agree to fight. Side note: No names mentioned. hahahah i agree they should be forced to or banned from the sport you *******s shoulda voted for mccain he woulda made this fight happen lol

Professional boxers saying silly things and getting NSB all wound up.

1.cintron's bitchass 2.floyd's bitchass 3.haye's bitchass 4.fans who support bitchassnes... you hate cintron more than floyd? wow i didnt think your h8 on floyd could be surpassed :) haha

Freedom Fighter just sent me a draft of his next post in this thread. Quote: Going on a forums and getting brutally raped by one of the writers :lol1: That was quite a brutal pwn. Poor Tunney. Just seems to misread everything. I guess that happens when you've got some deep repressed issues to deal with. Poor bugger. Needs to chuck some prawns on the barbie and crack open a cold one to swallow a few chill pills with. :nonono:

Freedom Fighter just sent me a draft of his next post in this thread. Going on a forums and getting brutally raped by one of the writers

Tunney, I'm going to tell you this just once. We know you won't get Klitschko's nut sack out of your mouth. But keep my name out of yours, since you have this unhealthy obsession with exaggerating an already incorrect summary of me, again and again and again, not because of my opinions -- which you seem to be describing with newer and wilder lies each time -- but because my opinions don't match your own wild fanhood. 1) There's a difference between having an opinion and being biased. I am not biased for or against any fighter, and the accusations you've put forth of me being biased against certain fighters, as noted above and delved into below, are somewhere between ill-informed and ill-accused. My reputation in this sport as telling it as I think it is -- not out of any bias -- has been set for some time now. 2) Here's your latest accusation: He sucks. In a article bashing Wladimir Klitschko and trying to prove how boring he is, he said neither Chagaev nor Klitschko landed a punch until the last round. Wlad landed MANY punches, as Chagaev's pizza faced showed in the second half of the fight. The knockdown in the second round was the first time Ruslan had ever been down, either as a pro or an amateur. Lots of writers bash the Klitschkos, but only a few resort to such a blatant lie to discredit them. It's very unprofessional. And besides that Griesman is BORING - he doesn't know how to create an interest, in fact he does the opposite. After reading a Griesman article about a boxer, you'll be less likely to want to watch him. It seems Griesman doesn't enjoy the sport. Let's take this bit by bit. Here's what I said about Klitschko-Chagaev: One would be hard pressed to find a single memorable punch Chagaev landed against Wladimir Klitschko. There was only one memorable punch Klitschko landed on Chagaev, a right hand two minutes into the second round that put Chagaev on his posterior. Was I doing that to trash Wladimir? No. Instead, he wore Chagaev down physically and mentally, damaging him with the accumulated bruising of jabs and right hands, and sapping him of his will to take any further punishment. Klitschko did so with simple but effective defense. And: Six of his last 11 opponents have held world titles. Almost all have been ranked in the top 10 of the various sanctioning bodies, and most actually belonged there. Yet none seem to pose a threat to Klitschko once the bell rings. Klitschko rarely approaches them as if that is true. Rather, be it due to patience or caution, he uses his jab to set up the right hand, breaking his opponents down until they either cannot get off the canvas or will not rise from their seats. It is not overly entertaining. It does not need to be. And: Only six of Klitschko’s wins have come by decision. He looks at his record and sees that he is doing his job. Any complaints about a lack of fireworks are also because his opponents aren’t doing theirs. A champion in a weak division is still a champion. And: What Wladimir Klitschko has done is win 11 straight, taking out anyone and everyone. He is the new, true heavyweight champion, taking over the designation once held by Lennox Lewis, a man with whom, like that day on the movie set, he can now see eye-to-eye . http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=20585 This is consistent with what I've long said. Klitschko is the champion of a weak division. The fights aren't very entertaining. This is consistent with what many say -- not out of bias, but because it's true. It's one of the reasons why not every Klitschko fight is on HBO these days. I read a very well done article on another site the other day pointing out that several of boxing's great heavyweight champions were champions of weak divisions. I don't care for historical comparisons. I've appreciated Wladimir for everything he's done since the rebuilding, and my track record, from article to article, indicates this. My track record, from article to article, still notes however that he's at the top of a heap. This is not to denigrate him so much as it is to shake my head at the lack of a good heavyweight challenger that would help build a great story. Who's using a blatant lie to build a case? It sure ain't me. As per building an interest, I sure as hell am doing something right, considering I've been doing this for nearly six years now and am the lead Monday columnist on the biggest boxing site and have continued to be so for some time. I've been pointed out to some other stuff, more times you can't help but spread mistruths about me... David P. Griesman is the worst. He's very negative and biased against European boxers, especially the K bros. Suddenly I'm not just biased against Wladimir (wrong), but now I'm biased against Vitali, too (wrong), oh, and against European boxers as well (wrong). Unfounded accusations. And even if you tried to make them founded, you'd pull out more inaccurate accusations to try to prove it. Beyond the one article of mine in which you responded to me in thread, you've pulled up my name, unprovoked, in five different threads -- and that's just on this site. I've also been pointed to at least one other site where you've done this. You're obsessed. And here's the thing: I have an e-mail address posted at the bottom of each article. I'm happy to have discussions -- conversations, not flaming -- to handle your concerns. As I've told people in my career in journalism, which reaches beyond boxing columns to regular reporting, if ever you have concerns, get in touch with me. Either I will tell you you're right or I will talk to you about why I don't think you're correct. Instead, you've gone on this campaign like a coward. I probably needn't have responded. What are the ramblings of one fool? As my father always told me, never argue with an idiot -- you'll never win.