The Truth About Why So Many Americans Hate The Klitschko's...

quite amusing to me that people think the Klitschkos would stand a chance against the greatest of all-time. Ali would've dominated both. Foreman would've knocked their heads off. Do people actually watch the older fights before commenting or just base it off video games or something? Lennox Lewis, known/believed to have a bad chin, who was clearly losing badly to Vitali in the first couple rounds of their fight, managed to turn the tide and seemed on his way to stopping Vitali by true KO had cuts not stopped the fight. Had Lewis rematched Vitali, I think it's apparent Lewis would've won in dominating fashion, and a fight with Wlad would've been over fairly quickly. The Klitschkos are certainly good fighters, the best of their "era." There's still little evidence for the case of the Klitschkos being the best heavyweights of all-time. If Ross Purrity, LEMON Brewster, and Corrie Sanders figured out how to whip Wlad, I'm pretty sure guys like Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Holmes, and Tyson would figure something out. Seriously, Foreman would knock both their heads clear off their shoulders, and possibly their shoulders off their bodies with those uber telegraphed hooks of his. Wlad wouldn't make it out of the first 3 rounds. The much more durable Vitali would only last 7-8 at most I think.

If you are referring to me, then dont get upset with me.... hell even the commentators talk about them, they dont even get any real coverage!!!!! WHY??? Because they are boring. Its not my fault. I never stated that they couldnt fight, I just stated that they are boring as hell, and most of the boxing world agrees with me. The avergae joe on the street doesnt even know them. And most know one of them for getting stopped by lennox lewis...... Look around you, how many klitschko avatars do you see? How many pictures do you see in the sig? These guys are the heavyweight champions and have been reigning since for ever, and yet and still people think they are boring. Ever hear larry merchant hype them up? ever hear anyone in the sport hype them up as exciting? All the historians bert sugar etc know that they can fight, but they dont hype them up because they are boring as hell. The mere question of you actually making this thread shows you that. People here in america arent dissing carl froch? are they? they arent dissing abraham, only some were upset with the intentional foul. Hell manny pacquiao is a phillipino, but everyone likes him and will tell you hes exciting, not the best technically, but exciting (oppposite of boring) to watch. THESE ARE ALL WHITE FIGHTERS!!! (PACQUIAO IS THE EXCEPTION I MENTIONED)AND YOU CANT GO WITH THE OLD EAST VS WEST MENTALITY, AS MOST FIGHT FANS ARE IGNORANT OF HISTORY HERE IN THE STATES. ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE BORING THEY DONT TAKE CHANCES, AND THEY ARE ALMOST ROBOTIC, NO PERSONALITY ETC. THERES NOTHING REALLY TO LIKE IF YOU ASK ME. You just can't admit it can you. Sad.

MmuhammadM, what's with your sig about Ray Robinson ?, the only elite boxers he didn't fight in his era are Eddie Booker who was coming to the end of his career while Robinson was on the rise, Charley Burley who had priced himself out and Robinson had no need to fight him, and Holman Williams. Explain how you think Ray Robinson is a ducker ?. Should be interesting.

Cuz' they are too cowardly to admit that its cuz' they're white. You can't possibly find them boring if you like Mayweather since they knock everyone out. Which only leaves one obvious reason. mayweather has a personality, and technically the best fighter on the planet, when have you seen the bros pull counter? check hook? dodge a 6 punch combo? look at the chambers fight in the last round, he couldnt even keep his fukkin balance..... mayweather talks shit and keeps up controversy. Is undefeated, and even his haters know he can fight. Lost once in the olympics and even the commentators and historians will tell you he was robbed.... Look at mosley mayweather fight for proof. is the # welterweight in the world (RANKED) yes including pacquiao as well. Now look at klitschko, has about as much personality as a wet dish cloth, doesnt speak english good (you know that would help his case in america, you gotta speak english) doesnt do any of the things mayweather does as good as mayweather. Why did people love ali? why did they love frazier? why did they love foreman? Why did they love tyson? holyfield? because they didnt fight like the klitschkos... holy field is known for his heart etc. not saying the klitschkos dont have heart, but they are not known for it, they need a personality. Hell ivan drago had personality and spoke decent english... lol. was a wrecking machine too lol! This is a fake character yes, but you would expect someone with their frames and statures to be better or rather more aggressive. Come on chambers should have been out of there before the 12th round. FACT.

I am an American, but nationality has little to do with who my favorite fighters are. I would not say that I am a fan of the Klitschko brothers, but I do admire the way they have dominated the division for the last five years or so. People bringing up the fact that they havent beaten anyone dont seem to realize that there is basically no one left for them to beat except Haye, Valuev, and each other.

:lol: they got Ingemar Johanson right next to him. What did these guys get ranked for ?? 1 good win against Floyd Patterson? The rankings are a joke. Most of these guys are on there to fill up space. Cleveland Williams was nothing but a strong puncher. Dime a dozen. hahahaha you make me laugh. Williams would have punched a hole in chambers' fat belly and decapitated vlad with a medium power shot. With full power he he hit even harder than sonny liston, who was the most feared puncher at the time. Williams was one of the fastest punchers of all time. 2:14, vladimir would not have the reflexes to get out off the way. Sorry but YOU are the only bum here. Compare the effort williams put into that punch, with the P**** hits that chambers was throwing.

Why do fans of Floyd Mayweather, claim they dislike Wlad because he is boring? If you are referring to me, then dont get upset with me.... hell even the commentators talk about them, they dont even get any real coverage!!!!! WHY??? Because they are boring. Its not my fault. I never stated that they couldnt fight, I just stated that they are boring as hell, and most of the boxing world agrees with me. The avergae joe on the street doesnt even know them. And most know one of them for getting stopped by lennox lewis...... Look around you, how many klitschko avatars do you see? How many pictures do you see in the sig? These guys are the heavyweight champions and have been reigning since for ever, and yet and still people think they are boring. Ever hear larry merchant hype them up? ever hear anyone in the sport hype them up as exciting? All the historians bert sugar etc know that they can fight, but they dont hype them up because they are boring as hell. The mere question of you actually making this thread shows you that. People here in america arent dissing carl froch? are they? they arent dissing abraham, only some were upset with the intentional foul. Hell manny pacquiao is a phillipino, but everyone likes him and will tell you hes exciting, not the best technically, but exciting (oppposite of boring) to watch. THESE ARE ALL WHITE FIGHTERS!!! (PACQUIAO IS THE EXCEPTION I MENTIONED)AND YOU CANT GO WITH THE OLD EAST VS WEST MENTALITY, AS MOST FIGHT FANS ARE IGNORANT OF HISTORY HERE IN THE STATES. ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE BORING THEY DONT TAKE CHANCES, AND THEY ARE ALMOST ROBOTIC, NO PERSONALITY ETC. THERES NOTHING REALLY TO LIKE IF YOU ASK ME.

Cleveland Williams was nothing but a slow plodding bum. Either Klitschko decapitates his ass. http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/50653295.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=E41C9FE5C4AA0A143D806DCB00B6499F1C04E4D162898ED392C704B6490A664BB01E70F2B3269972 just one "medium power" uppercut landed by Williams to the chin of vlad would shatter his glass into fragments. Ring Magazine Top 100 Greatest Punchers: 49. Cleveland Williams 50. Julio Cesar Chavez 51. Tiger Jack Fox 52. Joe Walcott 53. Gerry Cooney 54. Al (Bummy) Davis 55. Max Schmeling 56. Florentino Fernandez 57. Henry Armstrong Ring Magazine Top 10 All-Time Heavyweights: 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Evander Holyfield 4. George Foreman 5. Larry Holmes 6. Rocky Marciano 7. Sonny Liston 8. Joe Frazier 9. Jack Johnson 10. Jack Dempsey 11. Ezzard Charles 12. James J. Jeffries 13. Jersey Joe Walcott 14. Mike Tyson 15. Gene Tunney 16. Harry Wills 17. Sam Langford 18. John L. Sullivan 19. Max Schmeling 20. Max Baer 21. Floyd Patterson 22. Ken Norton 23. Riddick Bowe 24. Bob Fitzsimmons 25. Joe Jeannette 26. Jimmy Bivins 27. Jerry Quarry 28. Jack Sharkey 29. Archie Moore 30. Sam McVey 31. Cleveland Williams 32. Lennox Lewis (Burger mashed vitali at 37) 33. Earnie Shavers 34. Jim Corbett 35. Ernie Terrell 36. Michael Spinks 37. Jimmy Young 38. Zora Folley 39. Ingemar Johansson 40. Ron Lyle 41. Tim Witherspoon 42. Jimmy Ellis 43. Mike Weaver 44. Michael Moorer 45. James J. Braddock 46. Tommy Farr 47. Tommy Burns 48. Tommy Gibbons 49. Pinklon Thomas 50. Michael Dokes Achievemants of Eddie chambers: ?????????????????????????????

Cleveland Williams was nothing but a slow plodding bum. Either Klitschko decapitates his ass. Next thing he'll tell us is that Tony Tucker or Bonecrusher Smith would dominate this HW division if they were around (and it wouldn't be the first time I'd had read it, either).

The Difference Between A Top 3 All Time Elitist and a Euro Bum Does anything else really need to be said?

Why do fans of Floyd Mayweather, claim they dislike Wlad because he is boring?

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...and claim so and so from the past would have beaten them, is because (outside of the numerous racists on this message board) they are fully aware that most of their favorite heavyweights from times past would have been utterly destroyed by these giant Ukrainians and it infuriates them to no end. They say the reason that these Russians are dominating is because all the great "American" athletes are in the NFL and NBA, forgetting the fact that until the early 90's, the Russians couldn't participate in the sport of boxing. Low and behold, the Berlin Wall goes down all it takes is 10 years before the Russians take over. The NFL and NBA was just as big in the 80's and 90's and they had great heavyweights according to Americans, but once the Russians take over, all great American heavyweights disappear? Have you noticed an influx of European basketball players in recent years? Expect that trend to continue, then all we will hear is that all the great American athletes are working as lawyers and doctors now, lol. It could be that he's boring, no I take that back hes BOOOORRRING!!! AS HELL! NO ONE WANTS TO SEE HIM FIGHT ACTUALLY. THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION WAS ONCE THE PLACE TO SEE AWESOME FIGHTS, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION BEING DEAD.... BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN ITS BORING!! HOW ELSE DO YOU THINK SOMEONE LIKE HAYE WITHOUT REAL TECHNICAL SKILL CAME IN AND BECAME A CROWD FAVORITE OVERNIGHT?? BECAUSE PEOPLE WANTED FRESH BLOOD! TRUTH BE TOLD TEH KLITSCHOS NEED TO FIGHT ONE ANOTHER. THEY ARE TEH CHAMPS CORRECT? WHY ARE THEY NOT FIGHTING EACH OTHER? BECAUSE THEY ARE BROTHERS? GIT THE FUKK OUTTA HERE!~

Im a huge Klitschko fan and I am an American. Here is the truth in my opinion why people in the U.S. are apathetic towards the Kbros. Im not going to say hate, Id say that most don't really care and the average American probably has no idea who they are. There are a few reasons for this and they all stem from the media. If ESPN covered the Klitschko's like they covered Tyson or some of the UFC stuff, they would be sooo much bigger. Now I am not saying I blame ESPN, they moved away from covering the fight game other than PBF and Pacman. 18 ESPN's but they barely cover boxing. They cover NASCAR here and things like that much more. Part of this is boxings fault. Boxing has become too complicated in terms of champs and when people fight and who theyre fighting. Its crazy. 3 HW champs right now for example, the average fan cant follow along. Hard to show a clip from Vitali vs. Sosnowski and in 2 minutes explain why people should care. Also fighters (surprisingly not the KBROS) are fighting sooo much less. Hard to keep peoples attention when guys are fighting once every 15 months or something. Also the brutality is now common place on tv, in hockey, mma/pro wrestling, people see this stuff. There are many reasons the media doesnt cover boxing. Also Klitschko specific the bros arent the typical athlete. They dont go out on rapings, they dont say things that dont make any sense, they arent on their 8th drug rehabilitation. They dont make a good story other than a special piece on them. Theres never like Klitschko news that would grab the non boxing fan. Heck, ESPN has seemed to even try, when Vitali/Wlad were talking trash about Haye they ran the clips, even had Wlad on tv. English isnt his first language so its not a great interview, but also the fights fizzled out, but theres rarely news people care about, seriously is the average sports fan going to enticed by, "Vitali Klitschko shows up to the weigh in, in shape, and gets weighed, then he said he hopes itll be a good fight and went back home." They arent big in the U.S. because they arent a story, they needed another fighter to make them one. No one has ever stepped up. Imagine if Arreola was in shape (hard to do), imagine if he went to war with Vitali and through a really tough fight was KO'ed in the 12th, now imagine Arreola beat Adamek, beat like a Haye etc..all the time talking shit about a rematch, this would create a story people would care about. Arreola can talk, he acts like the athletes Americans know. This stuff doesnt happen though and the Klitschko's have to market themselves. If Joe Frazier didnt exist, Ali wouldnt be close to as big as he is. What helped Ali (the coward) was having guys like Frazier who added to the hype, unfortunately for Wlad and Vit its all on them.

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...and claim so and so from the past would have beaten them, is because (outside of the numerous racists on this message board) they are fully aware that most of their favorite heavyweights from times past would have been utterly destroyed by these giant Ukrainians and it infuriates them to no end. They say the reason that these Russians are dominating is because all the great "American" athletes are in the NFL and NBA, forgetting the fact that until the early 90's, the Russians couldn't participate in the sport of boxing. Low and behold, the Berlin Wall goes down all it takes is 10 years before the Russians take over. The NFL and NBA was just as big in the 80's and 90's and they had great heavyweights according to Americans, but once the Russians take over, all great American heavyweights disappear? Have you noticed an influx of European basketball players in recent years? Expect that trend to continue, then all we will hear is that all the great American athletes are working as lawyers and doctors now, lol. First of all there are no good American HW's now like there used to be. Why can't you guys realize this? Does love you that blind? This so called hate for the Klit's is because of guys like you who ranke these boring giants over the greats of the past. Look what an old Lewis did to Vitali. And he's the tough one. That old Lewis would have KO'd Wlad easily. Enough said.

The heavyweight division is shit, but the Klits are great boxers.

...and claim so and so from the past would have beaten them, is because (outside of the numerous racists on this message board) they are fully aware that most of their favorite heavyweights from times past would have been utterly destroyed by these giant Ukrainians and it infuriates them to no end. They say the reason that these Russians are dominating is because all the great "American" athletes are in the NFL and NBA, forgetting the fact that until the early 90's, the Russians couldn't participate in the sport of boxing. Low and behold, the Berlin Wall goes down all it takes is 10 years before the Russians take over. The NFL and NBA was just as big in the 80's and 90's and they had great heavyweights according to Americans, but once the Russians take over, all great American heavyweights disappear? Have you noticed an influx of European basketball players in recent years? Expect that trend to continue, then all we will hear is that all the great American athletes are working as lawyers and doctors now, lol. WOW What a post. Yes i agree. The K bros are like the eminem of the boxing game.

Vitaly is still respected in the states you have to keep in mind a man his size all of a sudden quits b/c of a shoulder injury against a guy with no power and your up on the scorecards. Then you have Wlad who gets blasted out buy Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster and claims he was poised. They have come along way and they are a dominate force but they dominate today when the heavyweight division is at a dimsmal and that not there fault. NBA&NFL is where all the money is at and endorsements are at. When you have sports where guys are dunking from freethrow lines and breaking ankels while dragging defenders it's tough to persuade athletes to trade in a ball for gloves. boxing is a brutal sport.with a torn rotator cuff,you cant lift your arm up.doesnt matter if he was winning,you still run the risk of being seriously hurt.he dominated the fight thoroughly,so he didnt have anything to prove by waiting for the obvious decision or k.o. brewster took a beating most boxers woulldnt have been able to take,and sanders is a big guy who can take a punch and give 1. people might disagree,but i dont believe their have been over 10 truly great h.w champs so in reality,most good h.w champs fought in weak eras

Just like how they dislike Pacquiao. I think it's mostly black fans though.