Would Cotto that beat Foreman have beaten Manny? he would of stood a much better chance thats for sure.
You know i still cant make up my mind which was the most decisive factor in why Cotto got away from what he was doing against Manny, was it that the KD broke the rhythm of what he was doing, was it because he got too caught up in trading, was it because Manny had not gotten into his rhythm yet and that was why Cotto had so much success timing his attacks early in the fight, maybe Pac started a little tight, it could be all of these things but im not sure which was more decisive, of coarse Pac fans will say its because he had not yet gotten into his rhythm but........
I picked Cotto to lose to Manny because of his style, but mainly because of Cotto's stance, which used to leave him open to all kinds of punches, however Steward has started to correct that by making him keep his weight central where by he is not putting too much weight on the lead foot and leaving himself so open, Cotto was also content just to get off in the fight rather than come foward and look to seek and destroy, which helped a lot imo, see Foreman is possibly quicker than Cotto and that speed advantage would of shown up more if Cotto had been chasing him looking for a big punch, he would of been able to constantly reset Cotto, but because Cotto was not looking for big punches he was able to get off and react a little quicker with his own counters, plus he was able to stick the jab on Foreman and catch Foreman on the turn.
I wouldn't mind watching a Pac/Cotto 2.
It's obvious that Joe Santiago didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. To me, Cotto was fucked mentally. When Pacquiao allowed Cotto to bang away at him against the ropes, only for Pacquiao to come back and drop him seconds later, that sort of killed everything. You could see it in Cotto's face.
cotto always had the skill, the question is his durability.........maybe now he wouldnt need it as much as last time if he improves his stance.....but still, pac is explosive....
i mean through the first 5 rounds...aside from the knockdowns, cotto only lost round 2.....he couldnt take pacs punches very well....if he had varied his style more to last 12 rounds outpointing, hed have a shot.....but it would all come down to him being able to take pacs punches down the stretch...
See i dont think his chin is that! bad, nor do i think thats the reason Pac was able to hurt him, to me Pac is a sharp shooter who is at his most dangerous when you pressure him, particularly if you pressure him wrecklessly(Hatton) where you dont see his punches coming, Cotto got embroiled in a fight with Manny and the punch that nailed him he did not see, perfect illustration of what im talking about, pressuring carelessly, i think its pretty clear that the best way to fight Manny is wait on him and make him take the lead and counter what he throws, i think Cotto could do that more consistently with Steward in his corner, not that im saying he would! win, but i dont think it hangs on if he can take Manny's power, it might hang on whether he can sustain what he is doing, because he has shown stamina issues before.
cotto always had the skill, the question is his durability.........maybe now he wouldnt need it as much as last time if he improves his stance.....but still, pac is explosive....
i mean through the first 5 rounds...aside from the knockdowns, cotto only lost round 2.....he couldnt take pacs punches very well....if he had varied his style more to last 12 rounds outpointing, hed have a shot.....but it would all come down to him being able to take pacs punches down the stretch...
Its easy to look much better against a poor opponent and much worse against a better. All i could think when i was watching the fight is that this just doesn't feel like world class boxing. Foreman has heart but i really dont think he is a top boxer and i feel cotto may have looked good against him just because of this.
Gotta agree with you there, i to felt it was like watching an A- fighter against a -B class opponent, with that said there was some stylistic issues Cotto had to deal with which kinda evened it up, albeit the odds were still stacked in Cotto's favour being that he is a level above.
I disagree. While Cotto was landing good shots and was aggressive against Pacquiao. He wasn't taking his time and the necessary precautions he should be taking against a puncher like Manny.
Against Foreman, he was patient and came forward with effective aggression but didn't force the issue.
Its easy to look much better against a poor opponent and much worse against a better. All i could think when i was watching the fight is that this just doesn't feel like world class boxing. Foreman has heart but i really dont think he is a top boxer and i feel cotto may have looked good against him just because of this.
I stand by my opinion that if it wasn't for the two knock downs Cotto would have won the first half of the fight.
He started well, after the knock down he started chasing rounds which made him sloppy and open to punches. A lot of what I saw though was common flaws in Cotto's game, he needs to work on having a second tank. The moment his reserves deplete he doesn't recover.
That being said as much as people say they wouldn't want to see a rematch between these two, I wouldn't mind it. Their first fight was great too watch ( The first half anyway, after round 8 or 9 it became painful to watch), and I believe he has a shot in a rematch.
Nope, Foreman was able to bother Cotto the few times he threw and moved out of the way similar to what Manny did, except Manny is obviously 10x the better puncher and moves in and out much quicker.
Although i know cotto did enough to win the foreman fight i really dont think he looked all that great.. it has me thinking that maybe i saw a completely different fight. His first few rounds against pac where exponentially better than any of the ones he fought against foreman..
I disagree. While Cotto was landing good shots and was aggressive against Pacquiao. He wasn't taking his time and the necessary precautions he should be taking against a puncher like Manny.
Against Foreman, he was patient and came forward with effective aggression but didn't force the issue.
Although i know cotto did enough to win the foreman fight i really dont think he looked all that great.. it has me thinking that maybe i saw a completely different fight. His first few rounds against pac where exponentially better than any of the ones he fought against foreman..
I don't know, I kind of thought Foreman's style, while being troublesome wouldn't really test what Cotto has left. But Cotto did show improved technique so I would say that Pacquiao would still beat Cotto but Cotto would be competitive for a longer period of time.
I always thought Cotto had some of the necessary tools to beat manny , I am not sure if the Cotto that fought Foreman would have won or done much better but if Cotto would have had steward in his corner not only for the Pac fight but a few fights before , he would have been a complete different animal , and if steward would have been in his corner for marg . marg would have gotten stopped. His corner never really works with urgency they are too calmed.
evangelista wasnt all that. He needs someone to tell him dont do this , dont do that , work on this , try that. Evangelista never did that , and santiagoonly cheered for one fight