yeh plus bruce lee was a amateur boxer i duno his record but he was supposed to be pretty dam good winning a few tournements in tokoyo etc.
PRO BOXING or not, it doesn't matter. You are mostly giving towards the label of a pro boxing commercially whereas martial arts have developed sophisticated-ly (if there is such a term) in the East long before the commercial pro boxing flourished in the USA. Bruce Lee studied under Yip Man who is a Wing Chun Master whereas Bruce Lee himself was an accomplished fighter.
I didn't bring up Bruce Lee into the topic but since it is on the table, then so be it. Hollywood has nothing to do with this but I humbly suggest that you look under Sigung Bruce Lee.
And so if the topic is strictly "PRO BOXING", then I concede but the author brought the names and the topic of "HAND SPEED". In that light, can't we talk about this?
I am no way dissing professional sports. But you have to at least know who Bruce Lee was and what kind of training and contribution he had even in boxing.
I am a fan of both pro boxing and the martial arts. In the streets, the functionality of boxing is different but very related. At one point he was clocked up to 11 hits simultaneously. And that is with power.
I have gone to numerous seminars with Guro Dan Inosanto who was one of the three trained under him with the certification to teach in the TAO OF JEET KUNE DO and JUN FAN JEET KUNE DO.
I am also a big fan of Muhammad Ali who was very fortunate to have seen THRILLA IN MANILA when I was about 7/8 years old when my father brought me to the fight.
That later brought an indelible mark towards my appreciation in the art of pugilism. And Ali and Bruce Lee personified boxing to the utmost in the ring and off-the ring.
yeh plus bruce lee was a amateur boxer i duno his record but he was supposed to be pretty dam good winning a few tournements in tokoyo etc.
I don't know if you missed the word " professional" that I clearly used. Street fighting in no way compares to professional boxing.
I am no way dissing professional sports. But you have to at least know who Bruce Lee was and what kind of training and contribution he had even in boxing.
I am a fan of both pro boxing and the martial arts. In the streets, the functionality of boxing is different but very related. At one point he was clocked up to 11 hits simultaneously. And that is with power.
I have gone to numerous seminars with Guro Dan Inosanto who was one of the three trained under him with the certification to teach in the TAO OF JEET KUNE DO and JUN FAN JEET KUNE DO.
I am also a big fan of Muhammad Ali who was very fortunate to have seen THRILLA IN MANILA when I was about 7/8 years old when my father brought me to the fight.
That later brought an indelible mark towards my appreciation in the art of pugilism. And Ali and Bruce Lee personified boxing to the utmost in the ring and off-the ring.
Boxers are punching with gloves that weigh 8 ounces though, comparing them to someone that 99% of the time punched with a bare fist is unfair to get a correct judgment.
When Pacquiao shadowboxes with hand wraps and starts letting go his combinations, they are blazing.
Good point.
Boxers are punching with gloves that weigh 8 ounces though, comparing them to someone that 99% of the time punched with a bare fist is unfair to get a correct judgment.
When Pacquiao shadowboxes with hand wraps and starts letting go his combinations, they are blazing.
I don't know if you know that before BRUCE LEE was a movie star, that he was a street fighter right?
I don't know if you missed the word " professional" that I clearly used. Street fighting in no way compares to professional boxing.
Big difference between throwing punches at air in a choreographed fictional fight and throwing punches in a real professional fight. Bruce Lee didn't have to worry about counter punches. In that setting he would not look nearly as fast.I don't know if you know that before BRUCE LEE was a movie star, that he was a street fighter right?
bruce lee... once he hit you, you won't notice his left foot on your cheek and the right fist on the other.
seriously... war chuck norris!
Big difference between throwing punches at air in a choreographed fictional fight and throwing punches in a real professional fight. Bruce Lee didn't have to worry about counter punches. In that setting he would not look nearly as fast.
As a fan of all boxers mentioned...and a former practitioner of Jeet Kune Do, hands-down BRUCE LEE (power, quickness, speed and combo). One thing notable is the "explosion" from "nothingness to the punch" that was trained internally and physically.
Then perhaps Roy Jones/Mayweather on that initial burst (first strike)...then Pacquiao with this well-timed combination.
But Muhammad Ali, in my opinion, stands out (aside from Bruce Lee) in terms of deceptive speed. Meaning the calculation of his jab speed, right cross, then uppercut/left hooks.
But all of these boxers have their own attributes of quickness, speed and combination (except for Mayweather on this one...combo)