Last night proved making weight hurt Cotto against Pacman

The fight was not even...

Stop making excuses for Cotto, he got beat fair and square. Cotto was in great shape for Pacquaio, he just wasn't good enough. To be honest as good as Cotto looked, the fight was pretty even until Foreman's knee injury, then there was only going to be one outcome. I'm not taking anything away from Cotto - it was a good win, but he could be anyh weight he liked against Pacquaio and I don't see any other result.

Didn't cotto say he would be willing to go back to 147? I could of sworn bigpoppapump posted something with that exact quote straight from Cotto's mouth.

What unfair advantage did Manny have over Cotto who has a history of coming in at less than 147? Are you telling me that it was the one pound that made Cotto get his shit pushed in? Cotto came in at 146 vs Quintana 146.5 vs Judah 146.25 vs Mosley 146.50 vs Gomez 146 vs Clottey In 9 fights at welterweight, Miguel Cotto has weighed in at less than 147 pounds 5 times. Again, for the slow and stupid, Miguel Cotto has come into a welterweight fight at less than 147 pounds for over half of his fights at welterweight.

Cotto is not the kind of guy to make an excuse. He's a true warrior, but that don't change the fact that he was setup to fail. Setup to fail man? 1 lb less than he weighed in for the clottey fight.. 146 to 145.

There we have it! /thread. Cotto is not the kind of guy to make an excuse. He's a true warrior, but that don't change the fact that he was setup to fail.

All comments like this are ignored because of your location. Its just like the someone from Gen. Santos City defending Pac. Talk about pot calling the kettle... YOu claim its all Cotto haters and Pac stans that say the opposite, however, theres alot more neutrals saying the weight didn't matter, including Cotto himself. There we have it! /thread.

Cotto was in good shape. He had a very bad corner and horrible game plan.

I don't understand why so many people can't see this. It's the damn truth and the majority of Pac fans and Cotto haters just pretend this isn't a reality. Pac didn't need to drain Cotto, not one, not two, not five pounds. They're about the same size, if he really wanted to beat the Champ it should have happened where the Champ was at his best, what's the point of weakening a fighter then claiming greatness? I know Pac's a phenom, but that was just bullshit and it takes away from his win. Any objective boxing fan who has followed Cotto's career would have seen the marked reduction in his pop and strength. do you also agree with sugar that cotto would have lost to pac anyway?

I don't understand why so many people can't see this. It's the damn truth and the majority of Pac fans and Cotto haters just pretend this isn't a reality. Pac didn't need to drain Cotto, not one, not two, not five pounds. They're about the same size, if he really wanted to beat the Champ it should have happened where the Champ was at his best, what's the point of weakening a fighter then claiming greatness? I know Pac's a phenom, but that was just bullshit and it takes away from his win. Any objective boxing fan who has followed Cotto's career would have seen the marked reduction in his pop and strength. All comments like this are ignored because of your location. Its just like the someone from Gen. Santos City defending Pac. Talk about pot calling the kettle... YOu claim its all Cotto haters and Pac stans that say the opposite, however, theres alot more neutrals saying the weight didn't matter, including Cotto himself.

I suggest some of you re watch the fight. Cotto looked great against pac until that 2nd knockdown. 2 major factors that changed his fight against pac was Pac's ability to nulify Cotto's jab and Cotto got hurt and couldn't recover.

It was a major fight changer. Cotto could've had his career ended because he wasn't at his best against a killing machine like Pacquiao that didn't need any extra advantages to begin with. The man was in a weakened physical condition. I'm not gonna sugar coat these facts. I don't understand why so many people can't see this. It's the damn truth and the majority of Pac fans and Cotto haters just pretend this isn't a reality. Pac didn't need to drain Cotto, not one, not two, not five pounds. They're about the same size, if he really wanted to beat the Champ it should have happened where the Champ was at his best, what's the point of weakening a fighter then claiming greatness? I know Pac's a phenom, but that was just bullshit and it takes away from his win. Any objective boxing fan who has followed Cotto's career would have seen the marked reduction in his pop and strength.

All OP is saying is: 154 Cotto beats 145 Cotto, 10/10 times. I agree, Cotto would be a MUCH livlier dog if they fight @ 154. you got that from ONE fight? where the guy had a twisted knee? lmao...props to Cotto for the win, but damn.....

yep, but 145 was cotto's number, meaning cotto knew he could make it and not be effected by it No, it means that's the number he knew he could make. Period. Doesn't mean he wouldn't be affected by it at all. It was the compromise he could make, as far as he could go to make the fight.

It was a major fight changer. Cotto could've had his career ended because he wasn't at his best against a killing machine like Pacquiao that didn't need any extra advantages to begin with. The man was in a weakened physical condition. I'm not gonna sugar coat these facts. could've, would've, should've... i could go on and on but bottom line is... it is what it is.

what you be the purpose of a thread like this... "if there was no catchweight, cotto would still have lost to pac but it would have been via decision." because if that was your thread title, ppl wouldn't get the impression that you were making this weight issue out to be a major fight changer. It was a major fight changer. Cotto could've had his career ended because he wasn't at his best against a killing machine like Pacquiao that didn't need any extra advantages to begin with. The man was in a weakened physical condition. I'm not gonna sugar coat these facts.

The only difference would've been Cotto making it out of the fight without being KO'd. I can't make it anymore simple than that, so everybody kiss my ass if you have a problem with it. what you be the purpose of a thread like this... "if there was no catchweight, cotto would still have lost to pac but it would have been via decision." because if that was your thread title, ppl wouldn't get the impression that you were making this weight issue out to be a major fight changer.

145 was cotto's idea not pac's His hand was forced (get loads of $$$). It's too much money to bicker about advantages or disadvantages (Floyd are you reading?). They wanted what was it 144, so he agreed to 145? It's still an advantage to Pac.

I don't think he can do that fighters at Jr MW are coming from him and there are alot of tough fighters in that div. I know he wouldnt but thats what i think is needed to be honest, Let cotto take 2 or 3 fights where he would just get his confidence, belief back then go after the top dog at 154 then retire.

you dont even understand your own post you said that Cotto beating Yuri proved that he was weight drained against PAC WTF? really? empty your drool cup son and tell mommy to put on your favorite cartoon....internet time is over Dude untuck your dick and be a thinking man, you ain't a bitch so don't act like one. I said the guy looked stronger last night. More fit than he did at 145lbs last year. How can that not be considered? I don't have a vested interest in hating Pacquiao so take it for what it is. You responded without reading because you and a whole lot of your fellow Pacquiao stans are emotional bitches who go off calling people names if they dare say anything disagreeable about your God. I say what I want to say about boxing. I don't invest my emotions in these fighters, so I don't feel the need to whine like you. I'm an objective person. I said in my Original post I think Pacquiao would've beat Cotto anyway. The southpaw style and the crazy angles and speed are the reason why. The only difference would've been Cotto making it out of the fight without being KO'd. I can't make it anymore simple than that, so everybody kiss my ass if you have a problem with it.