Shouldn't a Great jabber be able to Handle a Jab?

U cats all on the bandwagon, it is seldom a fighter known as a great jabber gets beat with a jab, like how Sturm beat Hoya....and many of u are just making up shit simply for the sake of disagreeing.

Just because you jab well doesn't mean you handle 1 well. You're talking offense and defense here. Not all punchers are great defenders....get it? TS got pwned so fukkin hard!!!!

Maybe some of ya'll dont understand boxing but how often has Winky been out jabbed? Great jabbers dont let opponents out jab or beat them with a jab. Oscar's jab is overrated. Forrest was out jabbed by Quartey, Lennox Lewis was outjabbed by Mercer. I suppose they had had overratted jabs.... Defense and Offense are two different things...

Fans still talk about Oscar's so called great jab?! What I recall is Ike Quartey, Felix Sturm, Mayweather jabbing the sh-t out of Oscar. I would think a great jabber would know how 2 neutralize a jab? It happens, get over it. Lewis was out jabbed by Bruno Liston was out jabbed by Ali Ali was out jabbed by Norton Holmes out jabbed by Norton etc etc (Many more examples these are 1st ones off the top of my head) All great jabbers who were out jabbed and couldn't neutralize their opponents jab, you can't just talk about the jab and leave out their style e.g Ali's and Holmes' jab was nullified by Nortons style, and they couldn't protect themselves against his jab at all. Lewis was out jabbed and boxed by Bruno who's jab wasn't near as good as Lewis' great jab, but he still out jabbed him. (Liston and Holmes share #1 all time jab for me) Maybe some of ya'll dont understand boxing After some of your posts here all I can do is laugh at this quote.

Maybe some of ya'll dont understand boxing but how often has Winky been out jabbed? Great jabbers dont let opponents out jab or beat them with a jab. Oscar's jab is overrated. Inbred....

Maybe some of ya'll dont understand boxing but how often has Winky been out jabbed? Great jabbers dont let opponents out jab or beat them with a jab. Oscar's jab is overrated. Winky is defensive. Floyd is defensive. If both came out jabbing and chasing stright up or whatever, they would get jabbed. I dunno if you know boxing, but there's a thing called offense and defense mate. If you'rw new to boxing then PM anytime OK.

should a good body puncher be able to take a good body punch? no

Ike Quartey simply has a better jab. Oscar didn't train 100% for Sturm and payed for it, plus Felix is bigger. Mayweather was skilled enough to hit him with the jab and because he was countering effectively.

Maybe some of ya'll dont understand boxing but how often has Winky been out jabbed? Great jabbers dont let opponents out jab or beat them with a jab. Oscar's jab is overrated. I box for a living, turning pro in august..... Winky isn't just a good jabber, he's one of the better defenders in the history of his division and the sport as a whole. Paulie Malignaggi has a great jab, but he doesn't handle jabs well. Fernando Vargas has a great jab but doesn't handle them well. Ike Quartey's jab is damn near unrivaled but he'd freeze up when a jab was coming back at him, in his shell Winky is also a southpaw, btw. Tricky situation for manny mean, they won't outjab a good southpaw jab.

Maybe some of ya'll dont understand boxing but how often has Winky been out jabbed? Great jabbers dont let opponents out jab or beat them with a jab. Oscar's jab is overrated. Winky is a defensive fighter, De La Hoya was an offensive fighter. Winky's shell stopped the jabs, De La Hoya relied on his head movement and picked them off with his gloves, which are not as reliable as the shell. Kind of like saying a great knockout artist can't get knocked out, it happens eventually.

shouldn't a great puncher be able to take a great punch? in short, no.

Maybe some of ya'll dont understand boxing but how often has Winky been out jabbed? Great jabbers dont let opponents out jab or beat them with a jab. Oscar's jab is overrated.

ANYONE can be neutralized with a jab as long as its successful. It's the staple punch in boxing.

Fans still talk about Oscar's so called great jab?! What I recall is Ike Quartey, Felix Sturm, Mayweather jabbing the sh-t out of Oscar. I would think a great jabber would know how 2 neutralize a jab? Just because you jab well doesn't mean you handle 1 well. You're talking offense and defense here. Not all punchers are great defenders....get it?

The logic doesn't really apply; countless fights can be referenced - could Morrison handle a left hook? In fact, that was what made Ruddock vs. Morrison so interesting; awesome left-hook vs. the smash.

My logic makes sense cause I'm talking about a jab, not all that other shit u talking about. The great trainers mention how a good jabber can land & defend it. Floyd takes away the jab, Oscar doesn't.

surely if you have two jabbers jabbing each other there's going to be a jabber who looks like he's getting out jabbed?

Shane went life and death with Oscar cause he has no jab, Manny dominated Oscar with no jab at all, perhaps he was indeed weak and dehydrated. Cant remember if Nard used a jab or not, lost that fight.