Great points Kevin. Kevin knows I am a huge Manny fan, but I also have a ton of respect for Floyd's abilities. Floyd is a monster, don't mistake it. I just wish he would be more himself outside of the ring, but that is another old and tired argument.
Some honest ribbing is fine, but I will never try to up the fighters I like by looking for ways to bring another fighter down. I wish more people in this place would stop letting their emotions get to them. Both sides in here have been guilty of it.
As for the politics involved, I simply don't get involved anymore. Do I think it is fair that Manny should have to give blood to fight Floyd? No I don't. I keep my opinion right there though and let them figure it out. I also don't think the 10 million per pound penalty was fair. When a fighter gets into the 30's, IMO they should get a tiny bit of leeway. It should have been like a half million or a million for the first pound over, then jack up the penalty big time for each additional pound. That would allow for some tiny margin of error up to the fight on Floyd's part, but also protect Manny. If the fight does not happen, I will blame both sides. I will blame both sides for having egos so big that they robbed us fans of a fight that we deserve.
I agree with Deanrw in this one. If you want to go back in history to sparring and last night I saw one of Floyd in the amateurs then fine i'll play along.
(1996)Manny's 1st loss(as a pro not sparring) by KO.
(1999) Manny's 2nd loss by stoppage (as a pro not sparring). Pacquiao vs Sing Sewer Rat
(2000)Hussein-Pacquiao. Getting knocked down by a jab(as a pro not sparring). Also the ref counting Bute-Andrade I type slow to let Manny recover.
(2003) Manny Pacquiao knocked down by a guy who is now 20-12. Pro, not sparring.
(2004 & 2008) Pacquiao getting schooled by Marquez in two tough fights. Pro, not sparring
To Manny Pacquiao's credit, he went on to win those fights he was knocked down in and I guess he has a W over Marquez. Don't hate, i'm just playing along, you want to discredit Floyd through sparring matches and amateur fights fine, we can play that game with almost every fighter.
Yea. Since im a known margarito lover and mexican....
Like i said, you NuFags and your forced memes invading the scene is a shame. GTFOYeah, but you're the one using the insults. Maybe if you were a reasonable person, you'd just read posts, and move on...but obviously I've touched a nerve, and that wasn't my intention:boxing:
Peep this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R38me5203X8
Yea. Since im a known margarito lover and mexican....
Like i said, you NuFags and your forced memes invading the scene is a shame. GTFO
Mayweather has got to be one of the most revered fighters of all time.
Every time a punch lands on him in a fight, there are hundreds of threads made about it, posters make .gif files, and you see 50 angles of the punch landing posted on this site.
Floyd is so admired that he can't lose a fukking sparring session for christsakes.
this ^^^
I'm no Floyd stan but this and a round against Castillo is all his haters have to hold on to? That's just sad.
they got that second round of the mosley fight too.
Here is PAc being knocked down and ko'd... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSI-TnZD2LY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus Pac ko'd
People forget that it was like Floyd's 2nd day in camp when Spaddy was like 2 weeks away from a fight. Thats why Floyd holds his own early but then tires out. You cant just look at it straight up when one guy is ready for a mega fight and the other guys is coming off of months of doing nothing & just starting to train again.
However, I also dont rip Spaddy for the Dorin fight like some others. That was the fight where people told him that he had to change his style and be more fan friendly if he wanted to make some money so it was the only fight of his career where he fought differently and he payed for it
That is still moot. Floyd approached it like he is supposed to approach it. Getting in big exchanges or putting heat on an inferior opponent is not going to help him in sparring. It would wreck sparafora's upcoming fight if he got injured and Floyd would lose out on sparring by not getting any in at all.
People put too much expectations into these sparring sessions. I remember a while back Peterson and his camp came out of sparring with Floyd declaring some sort of victory. Peterson then gets a fight against Bradley and got beat up. Did Peterson give himself false expectations and fight Bradley wrong? You be the judge.
On another note. I like the way Floyd approaches sparring sessions. He seems to use them to actually find angles, keep his timing and help him relax while getting punched at. For his counter punching style he approaches his sparring matches perfectly. He uses them to find openings, keep his reflexes sharp while keeping in shape.
We have heard of so many coming out of sparring sessions declaring some sort of victory against him. That is because Floyd uses the sessions to his benefit.
Sparring sessions mean nothing fight wise. You don't go into a sparring session to win. You go into a sparring session to work on things such as range, timing, feints and setups. You do it just to help yourself find a groove against a particular style.
Do any of you actually believe that Floyd was actually trying in that clip? He was doing his work. That is all it is. It might be used as an ego boost to a lower tier fighter, but it is no reflection on how an actual fight would go.
Wow, this is so stupid. I suppose with your logic, Manny would barely beat Khan because of this sparring session right here:
Get a hobby.
lol they dont wanna see manny retreat and run!!!!
(but could this be why amir states he wants manny??) and roach says that will never happen???
Some of them are so fresh to boxing that they have never seen that boxing dood.
YOU ARE NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR THOUSANDS OF HARA KIRI SUICIDES !!!!
you have just killed at least a 100,000 pactards. lol.
It's brought apon by his fans since they swear he is untouchable & he does too.. I think this is why he no longer lets cameras film his sparring sessions, because when he gets his ass handed to him it makes news. lol
hater.........
Its because you wish you were not lethargic.
This is exactly what I heard. Floyd was coming back from a break, and Spaddy was putting on the finishing touches for an upcoming fight.
Please act accordingly, you are now in a Boxxy thread.
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who, this girl that supposedly doesnt exist in the e world anymore. look, ive never been into 4chan or w/e its called but ive bumped into enuff of u fools on a few anime forums back in the day. lol, u guys take internet too seriously. the last thing thats needed on this site imo...
flomo pactard wars have nothing on the boxxy wars.