Why Aren't The Klitschko Brothers On The Ring's Pound For Pound List?

I think they are. They haven't lost in forever and just dominate everyone. Not only that, but they would have their exceptional skills at any size, meaning that, since they are both fast for heavyweights, have KO punches, almost never lose even a round, and the same boxing brains, all allied to their indomitable will to win.......... I don't see how they could be beaten by anyone the same weight.

Bias against european fighters, simple as that.

So wait Pavlik and Donaire are "black, arrogant and claim to be the greatest"? What about Hatton? No. Okayyyy How about Marquez? Ho shit!! What Marquez are U talking about?? I hope not the great one who looked already too small at 135 and fought Floyd at WW in a size mismatch...

There's a few on here, here and there. Where are you in Panama? Amazing that a country of over 3 million has 3 champs. I''m in Panama City, and jusy 2 days ago, I bought an apartment here, 210 sq.m. so plenty of room for a boxing visitor. Also have a bigger place in David, the second city, which I haven't seen yet, except in pictures, which look very nice. There's a large statue of Roberto Duran in a major street here which I often pass. Even now, he's a national hero. It's a terrific place, you can get a taxi to go anywhere in this city of 1.25 million, for $2-$3, and the life here is noisy but laid back. Some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. A bottle of good vodka is $5, yet I've been here 5 months and seen no drunks.

Wvlad should def be on the list top 6-7 in my book.

Cause there wack as fukk..........

anybody have a stream?

You Klits dudes are fukking worse than Al Sharpton. Nobody could be worse than a conniver, liar and lowlife like Sharpton. Unless "the Rev what's-his-name, who was found out to be a "pius" fraud and womanizer. Was it Jesse something-or-other?? But Sharpton is worse........

LOL. He couldn't go to Hearns-Hagler at the age of 7 because it was on a Monday which was a school night. But no need to get technical, I am sure he means he's been a fan since he can remember which was probably in the 80's. :boxing: Yes, I thought that. probably since December 1989. Although he gives his registration age as 32........ Does anyone know boxing fans in Panama, where I now live?? Some of the finest boxers in the world are Panamanian.

Lennox era wasn't any better. An old Evander, yes even back then he was already old, an old Tyson, and a bunch of guys just like the Klitschko's fought. And speaking of Tyson, what great heavyweights did he ever beat? If you look at his resume its a bunch of hacks and no names and when his level of comp went up he got his ass kicked. The Klitschko's era is pretty comparable to any era, there's some good guys, some decent guys and some shit guys, the reason they get no credit is cuz' they're white guys from Europe. If these two mother****ers where 2 giant black brothers from Brooklyn, everyone would proclaim them the GOATS and they'd be on HBO fighting tuneups on PPV. And for the record, Lewis didn't beat Vitali. The Dr. beat Vitali and spared Lewis a k.o loss. Lewis promptly retired like a coward after that rather than give Vitali a rematch. Your last sentence says far more than all the lines I've written about the Lewis-Klitschko fight.

So in the true spirit does this mean they have less power, less timing, less everything. I think they are pretty fantastic the way god built them. Wlad has a ton of skill, some speed, timing, power in both hands, and keeps just the right distance. Vitali hits you from all kinds of angles, hurts people with glancing blows and is a pro at keeping his distance and punishing people. You want to make them shorter, with shorter reach. I imagine they'd fight different and employ different methods to get the job done. Don't hate tall people j-rose. We truly can't help it. You try to buy pants at a regular store with all these short fukkers running around with the variety and selection all for short people. The tiny fella can't help it. He's envious of all us folks who aren't built like a 12 yr old girl. Let him get that hate out his heart.

Really? I've been a fighter/fight fan since 1980 and have never seen the heavyweight div look this horrible. I try not to post bias and to look at every aspect, sorry my conclusion remains the same. None of their fights are PPV's for a reason. You must have been a baby prodigy to be a "fan since 1980"-30 years, when you were just a baby 2 years old.

As much as I rate them, I've never considered the Klitschkos to be p4p material. I actually have both Haye and Adamek above them on my list.

because they are not american, black, arrogant, & claim to be the greatest. what i find hilarious is none of the klitskchos have ever graced the top 10 p4p but kelly pavlik & nonito donaire were as high as top 5 p4p. that is a travesty. So wait Pavlik and Donaire are "black, arrogant and claim to be the greatest"? What about Hatton? No. Okayyyy How about Marquez?

Eh, you're playing god here Jrose, or a mad Nazi scientist. But, that is the true meaning of P4P. If everything was equal and just skill for skill style for style who wins? That is the meaning. In the true meaning I don't see them in the top 10.

Someone like Ray Austin became a contender because of his size, 6'6", 250 lbs. Definitely NOT a consideration for p4p ever. But someone like Wlad, who beat him in under two rounds without throwing a single right hand, should be considered. But I'm fine with them not being on there. Lennox only barely cracked the top 10 and that was after beating Holyfield, who was up there. Lewis was even more underrated. Bowe for exemple was full of shit,get retired by Golota and was more respected altough Lewis handled Bowe in 1 round a the OG.

You Klits dudes are fukking worse than Al Sharpton. I dont know for Klits. But believe me you are great Pound for Troll material Burny. BS Top 5 easy.

Someone like Ray Austin became a contender because of his size, 6'6", 250 lbs. Definitely NOT a consideration for p4p ever. But someone like Wlad, who beat him in under two rounds without throwing a single right hand, should be considered. But I'm fine with them not being on there. Lennox only barely cracked the top 10 and that was after beating Holyfield, who was up there.

In comparison to FMJ they have 0.0000001% of speed and 0.01 % of skill of Floyd does that merit pound for pound list? compared to tyson ali lewis they all beat class opposition and had way better skills

key word.... they just don't win, its not even close. Thats talent. Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker, Valuev and even Lennox Lewis didn't dominate fighters like they do. So you can shove that "they're bigger" excuse straight up your collective asses. Sure they have more skills and are better fighters than Grant and Lance. But, that still doesn't mean that they don't win cuz of size advantage. I don't think they would "dominate" their opponents if everything was equal And, can you say that Lennox fought in a tougher era and beat better fighters? I mean he did beat Vitaly right? And, I still never considered Lennox an elite P4P fighter.