Hagler won it..He landed the more effective punches..Leonard did made it competitive though..When i watched that fight, the crowd was cheering for Leonard when he was moving around and not throwing punches, that wouldn't happen in this era..
The type of newb that I brought up earlier.The overrated Pryor turned down half a million to duck out of a golden oppurtunity of fighting the greatest fighter and draw of his era.
It's too bad the post-fight interview of Pryor-Blackmoore is no longer on youtube.
I would have given the decision to Marvin Hagler, not because i thought he won the fight but because he deserved it.
Deserved it by ducking a fresh,prime Herol Graham in favour of fighting a shot,inactive,blown up welterweight?
Hagler picked out another smaller man to add to his resume and it came back to bite him on his backside.
Hagler deserved nothing.
I By not given Arron Pyror a fight.
The type of newb that I brought up earlier.The overrated Pryor turned down half a million to duck out of a golden oppurtunity of fighting the greatest fighter and draw of his era.
I would have given the decision to Marvin Hagler, not because i thought he won the fight but because he deserved it, for his services to the sport. Sugar Ray Leonard is an ATG but he made sure everything was in his favour when he fought the other elites, and he's recieved a few gift decisions. By not given Arron Pyror a fight, or given rematches to Hearns ( until he thought Hearns was shot) and Duran or Hagler, he loses my respect...but in actual fact he did steal the fight
SRL has set an example that The Roy Jones's and the Floyd Mayeweather's have followed, by picking and choosing opponents instead of fighting the best in thier prime. Marvin Hagler was the antithesis of that
Every time I've watched it, I've had it 115-113 Hagler. I just don't give Leonard as much credit for his nothing flurries as I do the hurt Hagler was dishing out.
My first time watching the fight. I had SRL winning by a good margin. I took up boxing and years down the line, I watched the fight again, a 3rd time, a 4th, etc..
..And I had Marvelous Marvin taking it each time. I must admit, my scores for Hagler wasn't as huge as when I scored it for SRL the first time. Shoe-shinin' are for kids, if I were a judge, I would've told SRL shoe-shinin' are for kids, it's not a skill
Marvin Hagler, countered nicely and landed the more meaningful punches.
Fight could have gone either way depending on what you like more from each fighter.
I do think Hagler started to slowly and gave to many of the early rounds away thus giving Leonard a slight edge.
But Hagler and his team made some mistakes there,he should have fought southpaw most of the way not the other way around and also the Petronellis should have pushed him on harder....I mean before the last round Pat told him to ''push a lil bit now we need a little more'' or something like that.
They should have urged him on a lot sooner.
That's exactly what happened and I remember thinking the very same at the time. Leonard was much more flashy, and because he was not expected to do anything different from
Sorry, computer problem. Leonard wasn't expected to be able to stand up against a killer like Hagler, and when he did, in such a flashy way, the judges were over-impressed. He was clever about it, but they shouold have seen it, with all their experience.
Hagler impressed me as always being honest, and a man of his word, and....right enough, when Leonard wouldn't give him a rematch, quit the fight business,
Leonard afterwards said that he was too crafty and smart, to fight Hagler again, which shows me that those who thought Hagler won, are correct.
That's exactly what happened and I remember thinking the very same at the time. Leonard was much more flashy, and because he was not expected to do anything different from
I give it to Leonard. He did what he needed to do to put rounds in his favor. I remember watching the HBO documentary on the fight and Leonard saying as soon as he heard the tap that 30 seconds were left he would flurry to steal the round. Close fight though so I am not mad at anyone who thinks Marvelous won.
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cool...now we got some REAL barbershop talk goin on in this one :lol1:
I gave it to Ray for years.....until about a few years ago, I switched up....I think Hagler DID land the harder more affective shots and applied that pressure down the stretch that would've won him the fight in TODAY'S game!!....I think it was Richard Steele who said "the more you watch this fight the closer it gets"....man thats the TRUTH!!
I can't understand why Hagler didn't start off from the southpaw stance and just gave away early rounds....that STILL confuses me because he was waxing Ray when he southpaw'd up :boxing:
Leonard is a joke
rematches for Duran and Tommy but none for Marvin
and he waited til Marvin showed signs of being shopworn...pussy
Go sign up to some Manny Pacquiao fansite or some hip hop forum and leave this boxing forum to those who actually know the sport.
So why is everyone here complaining about speaking on this topic?
Sorry most of you f*cking retards prefer arguing about Pac vs. May or blood testing.
If it's been done to death why open this thread up and post in it?
:nonono:.
It's not everyone. I only saw one.