Breaking news - antonio margarito still suspended in the usa....

He didn't even want to train there because of the drug trafficking. :lol1: -- Talks of Margarito aside, I want one more Pac fight at Araneta Arena (which hosted Thrilla in Manila) http://www.manilagateway.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Big-Dome.jpg no disrespect intended, but how modern is that venue?? i ask because i dont know and i dont want to be ignorant.

and i doubt pac will go to mexico He didn't even want to train there because of the drug trafficking. :lol1: -- Talks of Margarito aside, I want one more Pac fight at Araneta Arena (which hosted Thrilla in Manila) http://www.manilagateway.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Big-Dome.jpg

honestly I have lived my entire life so I know how things work here. Anybody from Texas will tell you that when it comes to sports, we are very laid back and very tolerant of athletes actions. If Jerry Jones wants Pac vs Margarito in cowboys stadium....Tony will get his license in Texas, and thats a fact. if u didnt kno rite now, jerry jones isnt exactly on the top of everyone's christmas list. he has destroyed a lot of good will towards him in recent years, its not gonna be as easy as u think. and besides that fact, this is bigger than texas. in the u.s. states are usually very respecting of the rulings made in other states, especially when it has to do with some form of misconduct. texas is not thinking about granting margs a license anytime soon...i can damn near guarantee it.

I'm not trying to flame with this but: If Pac vs Margarito gets made in Texas (Marg will get his license in Texas I can guarantee you that) they would draw a crowd anywhere from 70-100k. Not only that but Arum has shown that he can do PPV's on his own and promote it all by himself (no other promoter can claim to be able to do so). So if HBO chooses not to hop on board...fukk em, they are the ones that lose out on money (This is Arums thinking btw) Not only that but this fight will defiantly do 1 million buys on top of Arum keeping all the money in house and Pac raping Tony (who will be desperate) with a 70-30 or even 80-20 split. Honestly I really don't think Arum cares if some are mad because this fight would still make him and Manny a ton of money. I know this may piss you off, but I'm keeping it real, and just telling you what will happen. nahh man, they already tried to get him licensed in texas. that didnt work last time, it wouldnt work now. texas is not interested in sidstepping california on this one, arum has already tried. if margs wants to have a chance of fighting in the states again, all roads lead to cali. that much is certain.

Breaking news - antonio margarito still suspended in the usa.... Breaking news? Where do you live? it's all these "margarito, PLAN B" threads. just was wondering if ppl realized arum's "plan b" was a suspended fighter....

and i doubt pac will go to mexico

I'm not trying to flame with this but: If Pac vs Margarito gets made in Texas (Marg will get his license in Texas I can guarantee you that) they would draw a crowd anywhere from 70-100k. Not only that but Arum has shown that he can do PPV's on his own and promote it all by himself (no other promoter can claim to be able to do so). So if HBO chooses not to hop on board...fukk em, they are the ones that lose out on money (This is Arums thinking btw) Not only that but this fight will defiantly do 1 million buys on top of Arum keeping all the money in house and Pac raping Tony (who will be desperate) with a 70-30 or even 80-20 split. Honestly I really don't think Arum cares if some are mad because this fight would still make him and Manny a ton of money. I know this may piss you off, but I'm keeping it real, and just telling you what will happen. nah, i completely understand where you're coming from. i just don't understand how anybody but margarito's fans could get excited for this, seriously. that's like floyd going after clottey next. regardless, i still will label this shit as "arum" talk, until margarito get's reinstated. i don't think manny goes to mexico to do this, and manila is a stretch, for a guy that just got his ass beat. when margarito gets his license back, i'll say "oh shit." at this point, it's just funny to me that he's labeled as a plan "B" option, and it's unnerving so many ppl back this fight, if it were to go down.

I think what Arum has in mind is like a 100K person venue in Mexico. IF he decides to have Margarito destroyed by Pacquiao How much money would that equal to?

I disagree about all that Texas shit. He's Mexican but I dont think they are going to be as quick to let him back in as alot of you think after what Valero just did. They would take some heat for that shit honestly I have lived my entire life so I know how things work here. Anybody from Texas will tell you that when it comes to sports, we are very laid back and very tolerant of athletes actions. If Jerry Jones wants Pac vs Margarito in cowboys stadium....Tony will get his license in Texas, and thats a fact.

You guys are the ones with delusions of grandeur if you think Manny is going to go against the commission and fight a suspended cheater outside the USA, possibly without the involvement HBO, and for less money than he would get if he fought Floyd. That is beyond silly. This is the guy who will take the blood tests 40 million dollars wouldn't get him to take, if the commission simply asks him to. Remember? come on guy are you really that silly? You do know boxing is the only sport that isn't under one governing body? CSAC only deals with fight in California, and has no power of anything that goes on in other states let alone other countries. Tyson was suspending in Vegas and other powerful states (for doing something much worst than loading gloves), but it still didn't stop him from fighting in Tennessee against Lennox Lewis. After that Lewis didnt have any issues fighting a suspended fighter as seen by him fighting Vitali in Cali under the CSAC.

I disagree about all that Texas shit. He's Mexican but I dont think they are going to be as quick to let him back in as alot of you think after what Valero just did. They would take some heat for that shit

Didnt the comission say they might ban him indefinitely if he fought outside the usa while suspended?? Yeah thats what i heard too?

seriously? the fans should care. i still doubt margarito gets reinstated, and if he does, i think cali would have to take the lead..... but **** a cowboys stadium.....seriously, margarito just got KTFO. what's the point? :dunno: manny gets a bigger pass for fighting mosley at this point. you guys talking that "don't need HBO" this, and "cowboys stadium" that, are illustrating my point..... the only winners for this fight taking place, are margarito (and his fans), and BOB ARUM. if you're a pacquiao fan, this fight hurts dude.....he loses whatever credibility he's been able to salvage. I'm not trying to flame with this but: If Pac vs Margarito gets made in Texas (Marg will get his license in Texas I can guarantee you that) they would draw a crowd anywhere from 70-100k. Not only that but Arum has shown that he can do PPV's on his own and promote it all by himself (no other promoter can claim to be able to do so). So if HBO chooses not to hop on board...fukk em, they are the ones that lose out on money (This is Arums thinking btw) Not only that but this fight will defiantly do 1 million buys on top of Arum keeping all the money in house and Pac raping Tony (who will be desperate) with a 70-30 or even 80-20 split. Honestly I really don't think Arum cares if some are mad because this fight would still make him and Manny a ton of money. I know this may piss you off, but I'm keeping it real, and just telling you what will happen.

Roach has delusions of grandeur when it comes to Manny's career. You guys are the ones with delusions of grandeur if you think Manny is going to go against the commission and fight a suspended cheater outside the USA, possibly without the involvement HBO, and for less money than he would get if he fought Floyd. That is beyond silly. This is the guy who will take the blood tests 40 million dollars wouldn't get him to take, if the commission simply asks him to. Remember?

Arum has already done a ton of shit wthout HBO and Pac is much bigger than HBO now. Arum can put on his own PPV between Pac-Margarito. Pac wont care because he will retire soon anyways, Arum wont care because he beefs with HBO alot, and Margarito wont care because he will be rich and gets a fight with the best. The only one's who would care is HBO because they wouldnt want to lose out on all of that money. They would do that fight or it will get done without them. BTW, Im not saying I support the fight (although it doesnt bother me as much as others), Im just saying that it definitely can get done without the license and even without HBO :werd: good post. I bet marg can get a license in Texas easier than any other state and if he does, then pac and marg can fight in cowboys stadium and have over 50k people. seriously? the fans should care. i still doubt margarito gets reinstated, and if he does, i think cali would have to take the lead..... but **** a cowboys stadium.....seriously, margarito just got KTFO. what's the point? :dunno: manny gets a bigger pass for fighting mosley at this point. you guys talking that "don't need HBO" this, and "cowboys stadium" that, are illustrating my point..... the only winners for this fight taking place, are margarito (and his fans), and BOB ARUM. if you're a pacquiao fan, this fight hurts dude.....he loses whatever credibility he's been able to salvage.

Freddie can say whatever he wants, but Arum calls all the shots because Pac works for him and he's spending his money on the fights. I'm so glad at least one Floyd fan gets it. Arum calls all the shots and Roach has delusions of grandeur when it comes to Manny's career.

Arum has already done a ton of shit wthout HBO and Pac is much bigger than HBO now. Arum can put on his own PPV between Pac-Margarito. Pac wont care because he will retire soon anyways, Arum wont care because he beefs with HBO alot, and Margarito wont care because he will be rich and gets a fight with the best. The only one's who would care is HBO because they wouldnt want to lose out on all of that money. They would do that fight or it will get done without them. BTW, Im not saying I support the fight (although it doesnt bother me as much as others), Im just saying that it definitely can get done without the license and even without HBO :werd: good post. I bet marg can get a license in Texas easier than any other state and if he does, then pac and marg can fight in cowboys stadium and have over 50k people.

all true..... but manny's not going to mexico to fight margarito..... and you guys honestly think HBO would back manny fighting a SUSPENDED margarito in manila? :nonono: and to ask a bigger question, that no one seems to care about...... wasn't margarito just caught cheating? didn't shane proceed to KHTFO? didn't mayweather just whoop shane's ass? why on earth, would ANYBODY support manny fighting this trash? even if you're staunchly against floyd's demand of OST's, and even if you're the biggest pacquiao fan, there's no way you can honestly say you'd be happy about a margarito-pacquiao matchup..... in manila, in mexico, even for the troops in iraq...... get real. :thumbsdow: Arum has already done a ton of shit wthout HBO and Pac is much bigger than HBO now. Arum can put on his own PPV between Pac-Margarito. Pac wont care because he will retire soon anyways, Arum wont care because he beefs with HBO alot, and Margarito wont care because he will be rich and gets a fight with the best. The only one's who would care is HBO because they wouldnt want to lose out on all of that money. They would do that fight or it will get done without them. BTW, Im not saying I support the fight (although it doesnt bother me as much as others), Im just saying that it definitely can get done without the license and even without HBO

If Arum had the pull to get Margarito reinstated it would have happened already. Manny isnt going to fight outside of the USA. this is what i say..... and if manny decided to NOT fight floyd, and face margarito instead, even in manila, i don't see how ANYBODY could be happy about it......except bob arum.

Freddie can say whatever he wants, but Arum calls all the shots because Pac works for him and he's spending his money on the fights. If Arum had the pull to get Margarito reinstated it would have happened already. Manny isnt going to fight outside of the USA.