Manny Pacquaio is too small for Mayweather, not just in overall size but most significantly in reach!!, see i watched JMM fight Floyd and even though JMM was starting to show signs of sliding before the Mayweather fight and he did not seem to acclimatize to the weight very well, Mayweather made full use of the height advantage, i can see him doing the same thing to MP, of coarse Manny is a different animal but if Mayweather maintains and controls distance he would make it very hard for Pacquaio, particularly if he took centre ring and counter punched Manny from there the way Cotto did. I hear people say how Pac would overwhelm him but here is the thing, to me Pacquaio stops throwing when he starts getting countered consistently, Marquez did it to him in the second fight, when Pac was getting hit he seemed to stop and think about what he was going to do too much and it effected his output.
I see it like this at the moment, Paul Williams has the tools to but not the Boxing brain or defense to maximize his advantages, basically he is a good fighter but not on Mayweather's level, Pacquiao is more on Mayweather's level, albeit probably not as good, but Pacquiao is too small, see that makes me undecided on which fight i would rather see, meaning which fight i think would make a more competitive fight.
Hatton was 145 and Floyd was 147, and Hatton say he felt much bigger than him. Thats because he just came from going up to 150 against DLH
147 isnt always 147 especially when you dropping
Manny Pacquaio is too small for Mayweather, not just in overall size but most significantly in reach!!, see i watched JMM fight Floyd and even though JMM was starting to show signs of sliding before the Mayweather fight and he did not seem to acclimatize to the weight very well, Mayweather made full use of the height advantage, i can see him doing the same thing to MP, of coarse Manny is a different animal but if Mayweather maintains and controls distance he would make it very hard for Pacquaio, particularly if he took centre ring and counter punched Manny from there the way Cotto did. I hear people say how Pac would overwhelm him but here is the thing, to me Pacquaio stops throwing when he starts getting countered consistently, Marquez did it to him in the second fight, when Pac was getting hit he seemed to stop and think about what he was going to do too much and it effected his output.
I see it like this at the moment, Paul Williams has the tools to but not the Boxing brain or defense to maximize his advantages, basically he is a good fighter but not on Mayweather's level, Pacquiao is more on Mayweather's level, albeit probably not as good, but Pacquiao is too small, see that makes me undecided on which fight i would rather see, meaning which fight i think would make a more competitive fight.
Pacquiao just beat super middleweight Joshua Clottey. Who is 5'9.
I dont get this post. Every person with eyes knows Floyd is taller and has a longer reach. Yes he will use it. Yes its up to Pac to do something about it. No thats not a reason to shit on him if he wins.
What if Mosley stopped Floyd in round 2 he doesnt get credit because hes taller and has a longer reach? Didnt Quintana beat Paul Williams? Hasnt Pac beaten fighters with longer reaches then him? Hes beaten taller fighters correct?
Does boxing have height and reach classes? No they have WEIGHT classes.
Pac in his last fight was 145.75 pounds.
Floyd was 146 Pounds.
For once i agree with u, size doesnt matter when were talking ATG caliber fighters....its all about skills, Pac should find a way to sneak up on Floyd's advantages with no excuses....just like when Duran beat SRL the 1st time
I dont get this post. Every person with eyes knows Floyd is taller and has a longer reach. Yes he will use it. Yes its up to Pac to do something about it. No thats not a reason to shit on him if he wins.
What if Mosley stopped Floyd in round 2 he doesnt get credit because hes taller and has a longer reach? Didnt Quintana beat Paul Williams? Hasnt Pac beaten fighters with longer reaches then him? Hes beaten taller fighters correct?
Does boxing have height and reach classes? No they have WEIGHT classes.
Pac in his last fight was 145.75 pounds.
Floyd was 146 Pounds.
idiot always..
Pacman weighs= 145 lbs after eating breakfast and not draining.
Floyd doesnt eat and he drains himself well..
Flomos cant accept the fact that he's bigger than Pac. :D
They all think Floyd still enters the ring at 148 :rofl:
To meet it doesn't matter whether Mayweather is bigger or not. Pacquiao holds a belt and fights top welterweights in championship fights. So you can't start picking and choosing which fightr's are too big for Pacquiao's benefit. If the fighter's are too big he shouldn't fight in the division.
It does you just dont want to answer it.
Yes i will give him credit but that is not what this thread is about is it, you have turned into that because your an insecure fanboy.
Bottom line is wins are ranked accordingly on a number of things, its not taking away from the victory if someone were to bring up that Floyd is bigger, its a fact, it wont be the only reason he wins, but it is a factor, same as Jones beating Nard when he did is a factor to take into consideration, to talk about possibly being a factor in the fight is not to take away credit.
You are easily the worst fan on here since Flawless.
All I wanted to know. Spare me the other stuff. You just admitted your a Floyd hater so Im sure you understand why I asked you this. Enjoy tonight fights :wave:
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Your example doesnt correllate to Floyd vs. Pac at 147.
The P4P 1 and 2.
The Number 1 and 2 WW's.
If Floyd wins will you give him credit . Yes or No?
It does you just dont want to answer it.
Yes i will give him credit but that is not what this thread is about is it, you have turned into that because your an insecure fanboy.
Bottom line is wins are ranked accordingly on a number of things, its not taking away from the victory if someone were to bring up that Floyd is bigger, its a fact, it wont be the only reason he wins, but it is a factor, same as Jones beating Nard when he did is a factor to take into consideration, to talk about possibly being a factor in the fight is not to take away credit.
You are easily the worst fan on here since Flawless.
so if this is the case then floyd should not fight pacman but claim he would beat him....???
If you read the OP post to the thread you will know that is not what im saying.
Im not saying now one could beat him, im saying % are in his favour in potential match ups with Williams and Pac, for different reasons, as explained in the opening post, not that i would not like to see them happen, just my break down of how i think they would do and why i think he would hold advantages over each individual.
ok,i hear you but then you are saying there is no one on the level of floyd skill wise,style wise and physically.a fighter has to be damn near perfect to match floyd..may have to go back 20 years or so for such a fighter to at least challenge floyd.
so if this is the case then floyd should not fight pacman but claim he would beat him....???
Basically no one could beat floyd in boxing right now...do you agree d.k???
so if this is the case then floyd should not fight pacman but claim he would beat him....???
If you read the OP post to the thread you will know that is not what im saying.
Im not saying now one could beat him, im saying % are in his favour in potential match ups with Williams and Pac, for different reasons, as explained in the opening post, not that i would not like to see them happen, just my break down of how i think they would do and why i think he would hold advantages over each individual.
First off if i wanted to discredit Mayweather why would i have to hide it, i will tell anyone who wants to listen im a Floyd hater, and what ?
Let me ask you something Burner, if Roy Jones beat Bernard Hopkins of 2001 would he, should he get more credit than he got for his previous win over Bernard Hopkins ? if the answer is yes then i ask why? he is same fighter right? is it because that there are valid criticism that Hopkins was not the same fighter when Roy fought him in 1993, therefore if Jones beat the 2001 version where he appeared to be at his very best that he should
get extra props? now by your logic if the rematch never happened that would be deemed not giving Roy his props to bring up that Hopkins was not the fighter he was in 2001? however if they do rematch and Roy beats him you would want to give him extra props for beating a better version, essentially you would be admitting that Jones 1st beat him when he was not as his peak, but you would deem that an excuse if the rematch never happened and that was all we had to go on.
Your just a fanboy.
Your example doesnt correllate to Floyd vs. Pac at 147.
The P4P 1 and 2.
The Number 1 and 2 WW's.
If Floyd wins will you give him credit . Yes or No?
i don't think he's discrediting a potential win, nor has he brought up weight.
What he's getting at is mayweather's height, reach, and abilities are too much for pacquiao.
Am i getting this right, dk?
so if this is the case then floyd should not fight pacman but claim he would beat him....???
Basically no one could beat floyd in boxing right now...do you agree d.k???
Bullshit.
Floyd weighed 146 for Mosley.
Pac weighed 145.75 for Clottey.
Pac can fight Cotto and Clottey who is bigger than even Floyd but somehow Floyd is too big? Bullshit.
co-sign........Floyd is a smal welter.....i LOL when ppl say he was wearing 160 vs Shane.
Dude still didnt say. I see thru your agenda been I didnt just join like all these other dudes. I know your how threads are. "Floyds a bum with defense". So I expected you to duck my question 4 times. If Floyd wins you wont give him ANY credit.
First off if i wanted to discredit Mayweather why would i have to hide it, i will tell anyone who wants to listen im a Floyd hater, and what ?
Let me ask you something Burner, if Roy Jones beat Bernard Hopkins of 2001 would he, should he get more credit than he got for his previous win over Bernard Hopkins ? if the answer is yes then i ask why? he is same fighter right? is it because that there are valid criticism that Hopkins was not the same fighter when Roy fought him in 1993, therefore if Jones beat the 2001 version where he appeared to be at his very best that he should
get extra props? now by your logic if the rematch never happened that would be deemed not giving Roy his props to bring up that Hopkins was not the fighter he was in 2001? however if they do rematch and Roy beats him you would want to give him extra props for beating a better version, essentially you would be admitting that Jones 1st beat him when he was not as his peak, but you would deem that an excuse if the rematch never happened and that was all we had to go on.
Your just a fanboy.
I dont get this post. Every person with eyes knows Floyd is taller and has a longer reach. Yes he will use it. Yes its up to Pac to do something about it. No thats not a reason to shit on him if he wins.
What if Mosley stopped Floyd in round 2 he doesnt get credit because hes taller and has a longer reach? Didnt Quintana beat Paul Williams? Hasnt Pac beaten fighters with longer reaches then him? Hes beaten taller fighters correct?
Does boxing have height and reach classes? No they have WEIGHT classes.
Pac in his last fight was 145.75 pounds.
Floyd was 146 Pounds.
Dymand kid, please read this post above and below AND RESPOND:
Does boxing have height and reach classes? No they have WEIGHT classes.
Pac in his last fight was 145.75 pounds.
Floyd was 146 Pounds
Im mainly talking about reach and height!!! Burner.
Floyd is a better fight than Clottey to, knows how to use his height more effectively.
This aint pole vault its boxing if men weigh the same its a fair fight .
Skillz pay da bills....don't mater how strong or big you are; what it all comes down to is how good are you at the sweet science. There is not fighter out there on Mayweather's skill level.
true!! and add the TS opinion on floyds height and reach advantage.. PAC has no way to beat floyd.. so drop the stupid OST and fight PAC within the NSAC rules.. lets get this on!!
Dude still didnt say. I see thru your agenda been I didnt just join like all these other dudes. I know your how threads are. "Floyds a bum with defense". So I expected you to duck my question 4 times. If Floyd wins you wont give him ANY credit.
Skillz pay da bills....don't mater how strong or big you are; what it all comes down to is how good are you at the sweet science. There is not fighter out there on Mayweather's skill level.
Id does matter when your going up against a guy who is as skilled as you and has physical attributes that he can make a big factor stylistically in a potential fight, elite fighters no how to use their advantages.
Manny Pacquaio is too small for Mayweather, not just in overall size but most significantly in reach!!, see i watched JMM fight Floyd and even though JMM was starting to show signs of sliding before the Mayweather fight and he did not seem to acclimatize to the weight very well, Mayweather made full use of the height advantage, i can see him doing the same thing to MP, of coarse Manny is a different animal but if Mayweather maintains and controls distance he would make it very hard for Pacquaio, particularly if he took centre ring and counter punched Manny from there the way Cotto did. I hear people say how Pac would overwhelm him but here is the thing, to me Pacquaio stops throwing when he starts getting countered consistently, Marquez did it to him in the second fight, when Pac was getting hit he seemed to stop and think about what he was going to do too much and it effected his output.
I see it like this at the moment, Paul Williams has the tools to but not the Boxing brain or defense to maximize his advantages, basically he is a good fighter but not on Mayweather's level, Pacquiao is more on Mayweather's level, albeit probably not as good, but Pacquiao is too small, see that makes me undecided on which fight i would rather see, meaning which fight i think would make a more competitive fight.
Skillz pay da bills....don't mater how strong or big you are; what it all comes down to is how good are you at the sweet science. There is not fighter out there on Mayweather's skill level.