The truth about Floyd Mayweather Jr.

If Floyd were white he'd be considered the greatest fighter on the planet...mostly by white fans of course Thats a racist comment for you to make

The truth about Floyd Mayweather Jr. by Cuahutemoc1496 First off I want to say Floyd is an incredible fighter, his speed and skill IMO is unmatched in the world of boxing right now. It's a hard pill for some to swallow because most people cannot separate their personal feelings with objectivity. Mosley was not an easy fight, I don't care if he is 38 years old. Is he the Mosley in his prime? No, but he is still a very capable fighter and it showed when he had Floyd in trouble in the second round. The thing with Floyd is that it takes him all of a round to figure you out, catch your rhythm and start picking you apart. He did this with surprising ease and showed why he has never lost a fight. The problems I do have with Floyd is that he has hand picked opponents in the past, some call it smart, others call it cowardly. Personally, I think Floyd actually got lucky with the draw. He came when Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad and all those great fighters at 147 were way past their prime but honestly, I can't blame Floyd for that. Some say he ran from a prime Margarito when he was a terror in the welter weight division, but let's be honest people, would Margarito be nothing more than a punching bag for him? I mean Mosley made him look slow and lethargic, what do you think Floyd would have done for 12 rounds? I don't like Floyd the man, his mouth is a turn off for me. Floyd the fighter on the other hand is a naturally gifted fighter that is incredible to watch for the boxing purist like myself. I don't care to see a bad man contest and two unskilled drunks beat on each other into a bloody mess, I want to see two masters of the sport battle it out and Floyd honestly made it look easy. Floyd once said the reason he isn't the biggest sports star in America is because he is black. We all know that is a absurd comment, the truth is, Floyd has crossed the boundary from cocky and charismatic, to obnoxious and annoying. If Floyd allowed himself to be more humble he would be more liked. That's just not Floyd though, maybe it's his cockiness that gives him that strength, that confidence that makes him great in the ring. All I know is that I don't see anyone beating Floyd, not even Pacquaio. Pacquaio is an all time great in his own right but as the saying goes, a great big man always beats a great small man and I just think that when those two come face to face in the ring, Floyd natural size and strength advantage will be apparent. That's not to say Pacquiao doesn't have a chance, every fighter has a chance as we saw how close Mosley was to ending the fight in the second but with the safe style that Floyd implores, it would be very difficult for Pacquaio to turn this into a brawl or get close enough to make enough exchanges to KO Floyd. I can't say Floyd is the greatest of all time because that's another argument for another day. I can say that if he keeps winning in dominant fashion like this, he is making a hell of a case for it though.... Best post I ever read here. I use to come here a lot to get good reads. Then the PACTARDS showed up acting like middle school kids arguing about who is better superman or the green latern. Anyway Great post very well thought out.

until he beats pac and then a few other challenges when he is slightly past his prime then he is no where near atg. Atg is how you box when you are pass your prime as well. Great boxers can achieve things when they are old and we dont know how well pbf could do. Im not letting personal feelings get in the way of objectivity. man please, u was hater back in 06 and it's 2010 and u still a hater. Objectivity my a$$

Excellent read. I couldn't agree with you more.

Until he beats Pac and then a few other challenges when he is slightly past his prime then he is no where near ATG. ATG is how you box when you are pass your prime as well. Great boxers can achieve things when they are old and we dont know how well PBF could do. Im not letting personal feelings get in the way of objectivity. Its not cocky when you back it up. When Ali was the biggest mouth in the sport he was loved. So why do people hate Mayweather?

The truth about Floyd Mayweather Jr. by Cuahutemoc1496 First off I want to say Floyd is an incredible fighter, his speed and skill IMO is unmatched in the world of boxing right now. It's a hard pill for some to swallow because most people cannot separate their personal feelings with objectivity. Mosley was not an easy fight, I don't care if he is 38 years old. Is he the Mosley in his prime? No, but he is still a very capable fighter and it showed when he had Floyd in trouble in the second round. The thing with Floyd is that it takes him all of a round to figure you out, catch your rhythm and start picking you apart. He did this with surprising ease and showed why he has never lost a fight. The problems I do have with Floyd is that he has hand picked opponents in the past, some call it smart, others call it cowardly. Personally, I think Floyd actually got lucky with the draw. He came when Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad and all those great fighters at 147 were way past their prime but honestly, I can't blame Floyd for that. Some say he ran from a prime Margarito when he was a terror in the welter weight division, but let's be honest people, would Margarito be nothing more than a punching bag for him? I mean Mosley made him look slow and lethargic, what do you think Floyd would have done for 12 rounds? I don't like Floyd the man, his mouth is a turn off for me. Floyd the fighter on the other hand is a naturally gifted fighter that is incredible to watch for the boxing purist like myself. I don't care to see a bad man contest and two unskilled drunks beat on each other into a bloody mess, I want to see two masters of the sport battle it out and Floyd honestly made it look easy. Floyd once said the reason he isn't the biggest sports star in America is because he is black. We all know that is a absurd comment, the truth is, Floyd has crossed the boundary from cocky and charismatic, to obnoxious and annoying. If Floyd allowed himself to be more humble he would be more liked. That's just not Floyd though, maybe it's his cockiness that gives him that strength, that confidence that makes him great in the ring. All I know is that I don't see anyone beating Floyd, not even Pacquaio. Pacquaio is an all time great in his own right but as the saying goes, a great big man always beats a great small man and I just think that when those two come face to face in the ring, Floyd natural size and strength advantage will be apparent. That's not to say Pacquiao doesn't have a chance, every fighter has a chance as we saw how close Mosley was to ending the fight in the second but with the safe style that Floyd implores, it would be very difficult for Pacquaio to turn this into a brawl or get close enough to make enough exchanges to KO Floyd. I can't say Floyd is the greatest of all time because that's another argument for another day. I can say that if he keeps winning in dominant fashion like this, he is making a hell of a case for it though.... Until he beats Pac and then a few other challenges when he is slightly past his prime then he is no where near ATG. ATG is how you box when you are pass your prime as well. Great boxers can achieve things when they are old and we dont know how well PBF could do. Im not letting personal feelings get in the way of objectivity.

excellent read!! :fing02:

I know Floyd isn't this guy 100% of the time but you can't deny the things he says to his daughters on 24/7 where he tells them life is all about money, something I would never tell my own children. i remember him sayin that he didn't want his kids to work for anyone i don't remember him sayin life is all about money though

Good read. You auditioning for BS? You could make the cut. I didn't even know there was a spot open..lol. I write a lot, got that from spending time alone, I just wanted to come with a different perspective as far as someone who doesn't necessarily like Floyd the man but can see through the nonsense and respect Floyd the fighter. Here's how I see it. The "money" persona makes Floyd work as hard as he does. He knows he can't talk shit and then lose. He'd never ever....EVER hear the end of it. Boxing fans need to see past the marketing side of Floyd. None of what he says on 24/7 impresses me. It's great for Casual boxing fans and new fans, not for true fairweather fans of the sport. Floyd realized what was best for business, and that's playing the villain. Remember the hey days of the WWE, when Vince McMahon became THE most hated person on the planet? He screwed people over again and again. It's a rewarding business tactic in terms of profit and marketing. Vince sold MILLIONS of PPV's, and Floyd and his camp saw this. It's a no brainer. Floyd is NOT "money" off camera. He's probably a charitable, respectful, friendly, and humble young black man. But people don't wanna see that. The media can't wait to break him like Tiger, like MJ, like Tyson, and the list goes on. So what does he do? He takes that power away from the media and into his own marketing campaign. He then becomes the hardest workin athlete in all of boxing and laughs his way to the bank. Lighten up on "money", it's an act guys. Floyd Mayweather Jr. respects boxing and his opponents. The proof is in how meticulously and tirelessly he trains for EVERY fight, whether it's a lighter opponent in JMM, or a p4p welter like Shane. NOTHING changes from opponent to opponent. That's respect. I have to disagree, first off boxing isn't the WWE where you need a gimmick in order to sell a fight. If the talent is there and the match up is right people will want to see it. DLH was always the "good guy" but he didn't have to market his opponent as the "bad guy" in order to sell fights. Trinidad was FAR from the bad guy and that was one of the biggest fights of the last 20 or so years. It was because both fighters were great, that's what sold the fight. With Floyd, as I pointed out in the piece, he is someone who came at an odd time in boxing. I once heard Bert Sugar say, "It's your competition that makes you great". He's 100% right, I mean what kind of legacy would Leonard have if he never had Duran, Hagler or Hearns? Same with Ali and Frazier, Spinks and Foreman. I know Floyd isn't this guy 100% of the time but you can't deny the things he says to his daughters on 24/7 where he tells them life is all about money, something I would never tell my own children. I know some is an act and some is true, like I said before though, perception is sometimes stronger than the truth and that's the ugly truth in life.

Here's how I see it. The "money" persona makes Floyd work as hard as he does. He knows he can't talk shit and then lose. He'd never ever....EVER hear the end of it. Boxing fans need to see past the marketing side of Floyd. None of what he says on 24/7 impresses me. It's great for Casual boxing fans and new fans, not for true fairweather fans of the sport. Floyd realized what was best for business, and that's playing the villain. Remember the hey days of the WWE, when Vince McMahon became THE most hated person on the planet? He screwed people over again and again. It's a rewarding business tactic in terms of profit and marketing. Vince sold MILLIONS of PPV's, and Floyd and his camp saw this. It's a no brainer. Floyd is NOT "money" off camera. He's probably a charitable, respectful, friendly, and humble young black man. But people don't wanna see that. The media can't wait to break him like Tiger, like MJ, like Tyson, and the list goes on. So what does he do? He takes that power away from the media and into his own marketing campaign. He then becomes the hardest workin athlete in all of boxing and laughs his way to the bank. Lighten up on "money", it's an act guys. Floyd Mayweather Jr. respects boxing and his opponents. The proof is in how meticulously and tirelessly he trains for EVERY fight, whether it's a lighter opponent in JMM, or a p4p welter like Shane. NOTHING changes from opponent to opponent. That's respect.

Props Cuahutemoc. but he is always very sporting after the fight even with guys that bad mouthed him like corrales This is something I just recently noticed after the Mosley fight. After he wins, he talks more respectfully about his opponent it seems. Anyways, never really liked Floyd but you can't deny his greatness. There's times when I wish he would go all out (not be so defensive) because you get the feeling he would still win and make things more exciting. As far as trash talking goes, my take is he needs to step his game way up. He did have some zingers against Shane, but for the most part it's on some 2nd grade level taunting (maybe even kindergarten). Instead of being a clever bad guy, he seems like a spoiled child sometimes. "The Big Boy Mansion"? Jesus... Also, I wish he never specifically said he was greater than Ali, Robinson, Leonard. Those guys went all out in the ring. Respect them.

I never understood Floyds jibes about him not be as well respected was due to the colour of his skin, I think its stems from when he fought Hatton, and was envious of the support he got. But when you look at America over the last 15 years or so, the biggest and most respected sportstars have been black. Jordan and Woods (well was) to name a few.

Good read. You auditioning for BS? You could make the cut.

cuauhtemoc1496, that was a good article. my bad, i jumped to conlclusions and didnt read the rest. Now I read the rest of it, I agree with alot of what you said. I was about to say, I gave tons of props to Floyd...haha I can't agree with that. You have to prove it in the ring. If Tyson never fought Douglas/Holyfield or if Jones never fought Tarver or Tito never fought Hopkins. Every body would of said in retrospect Mike, Tito and Roy would of won that fight. You have to win it in the ring you don't win it on paper. We don't know what would of happened in those fights. Floyd probably would of won but at the same time he could of lost. We just don't know and he put himself in that position of my doubting him going unbeaten in that stretch. Yes you are right but I think when you are at the level Floyd is at, it's hard to argue the contrary.

If Floyd were white he'd be considered the greatest fighter on the planet...mostly by white fans of course im a white american, and i agree with this 100% my fellow white people would rather cheer for bumbling idiots like pavlik and mma fighters as opposed to the greatest fighter of this era (and possibly of all time) just because of the skin colors :puke::burnup:

he doesn't want to be liked he wants to make money but he is always very sporting after the fight even with guys that bad mouthed him like corrales i think floyd felt that Arum should have made him a star. when it didn't seem like it was happening the way he wanted he took it upon himself to play the bad guy role and it helps him sell fights i mean floyd got booed in his pro debut performance as I remember for show boating fans have never really liked him floyd is a perfectionist in the ring and alot of people don't like perfection they want something tainted because they find it easier to relate to them than someone like floyd or roy jones who are SO gifted that it kind of breeds contempt thats why people like boxers like Kelly Pavlik blue collar humble guy who has worked hard to get where he is at some people forget that guys like floyd and roy have worked that hard aswell the fact that they seem to have GOD GIVEN TALENT puts them in a different catergory especially when criticism is flying around i respect what floyd has done in the ring and the fact that he's doing the very best to provide for his family all that greater than ali talk. it's just to sell a fight even though he probably really believes it lol I can' take seriously the ones who think Floyd Mayweather acts real on 24/7....even the Flomos

I remember reading an interview that Leonard Ellerbee gave in Ring magazine, he was instrumental in re-marketing Floyd to broader audiences which is why he appeared on Dancing with the Stars and took on the "Money" personae. That reminds me of another interview with Madonna in Playboy where she helped Deion Sanders invent "Showtime" personae and Dennis Rodman become well, Dennis Rodman. Controversy sells and even Floyd said so himself in a recent Boxingscene interview - he makes good TV so all of his nonsense really just helps him make more money. I wonder if Shane who is a legend in his own right would have had bigger fights and more financial success if he did some of the same as opposed to being just the nice guy that he seems like.

Either or, I was thinking about Cotto was well but I just remembered the video of Floyd shaking Marg's hand and promising him that fight. In retrospect, it makes no difference, Floyd makes easy 12 round work of Cotto or Marg. I can't agree with that. You have to prove it in the ring. If Tyson never fought Douglas/Holyfield or if Jones never fought Tarver or Tito never fought Hopkins. Every body would of said in retrospect Mike, Tito and Roy would of won that fight. You have to win it in the ring you don't win it on paper. We don't know what would of happened in those fights. Floyd probably would of won but at the same time he could of lost. We just don't know and he put himself in that position of my doubting him going unbeaten in that stretch.

cuauhtemoc1496, that was a good article. my bad, i jumped to conlclusions and didnt read the rest. Now I read the rest of it, I agree with alot of what you said.

You know whats annoying about boxing. It seems like with every great fighter, theres a way to make them look bad. Its always he came a great time...scubby boobi had just left the division. And he made sure he ducked Piggi Wiggi. Its like c'mon man, can't anyone just be great? Theres always some story with every career or with every fight. The bottomline is, Floyd is undefeated and I don't see him losing to anybody except father time. He'll dominate manny in my opinion. Just being honest.