floyd being past his prime is an advantage for pacquiao..

floyd isnt in his prime???? wtf??? lol of course hes still in his prime....if anything hes in the peak of his prime.....

a lot of you guys are underestimating floyd, usually the great ones have a longer shelf life, even improve in age ...

manny was past prime since the first bloody EM fight. that's how flomos think right? like how they said hatton and cotto were past prime after losing only 1 fight before they fought manny. so it's floyd who's fighting a past prime manny :lol1: actually bro PAC was past his prime after his first loss to torreocampo, tsk tsk he was never the same, he was shot after singsurat and should have just retired after morales ... lolz :boxing:

Prime is a hard thing to nail down. I think Physically he may be past his prime in the sense that he probably isn't quite as fast as he used to be. But mentally I think he's sharper then ever. I like to think of Bernard hopkins, who at age 36 I would consider still in his prime. It was his peak imo because mentally, he became a true executioner of his abilities and strategy. I see floyd in the same way right now. Sure he may have lost fractions of a second of the speed of his punch, but he is on top of his game right now. Floyd has been past his prime even before Roach made his statements..but people are confusing the meaning, past his prime doesnt exactly mean hes no longer good..just..Floyd is past it in the sense that hes not what he used to be..but he is still great and the best boxer in the world right now.. I agree with both of these statements. I think people say that floyd is past his prime because they think about boxing in just the physical sense. Even though this is the right thinking when you are talking about almost everybody else except for floyd. He turns the fight into more of a mental battle than a physical battle. He makes you think about what you are going to do next and then makes you second guess your decision. There is going to be a point when the mental is not gone be able to compensate for the physical but I hope I never see it.

like freddie roach said floyd doesnt use his legs anymore floyd doesnt use combinations anymore, his work rate has decreased, his speed isn't the same how it used to be. apart from that floyd will be 34 years old by the time this fight will happen..they werent ready for him before, roach saw something in the mosley fight. either way a past prime floyd still beats manny, but is floyd being past his prime an advantage for manny? like if floyd was in his prime he would massacre pacquiao gatti style, but right now since floyd is past his prime this match-up becomes a bit closer if this fight happened at 140 it would have been probably the best showing of each-others prime. Although Pacquiao's skills have increased at his stay at 147, his speed has slightly decreased. At 140 Pacquiao seemed even quicker than Floyd. I remember not even seeing the punch land and Ariza going on how that camp was amazing. At WW Floyds hands seem even a tad quicker than Pacquiao, but Pacquiao makes up for it with his foot speed, combinations and unorthodox style.

Lol..........

Some of Floyd physical may be on the decline but personally he's better than I've ever seen him; he;s smarter than Manny which will be the reason why he ll beat him.

"roach said"...this is one of the most famous thread subject on nsb and it gets dumber everytime. whatever roach said is his own opinion and he doesn't have to base his opinion on somebody else's opinion just like some of this simpletons are doing. just because roach said so doesn't mean that's exactly what's going to happen.

Past your prime in sports don't mean shit.... A veteran with good skills make up for age..... I.e. Ali, Robinson, Holyfield , La motta , Chavez see where im going.... Most great fighter who fight past there prime have the skills to still be better of 90% of boxing...... agree......but in Floyud's case it's 100%

Flyod is deffinitely still on his primce, too bad he only fights wash up, old, overweight boxers, plus still wants every advantage imaginable. Its rediculous!!!

everyone knows pac has been in more wars than floyd, therefore he is more worn than floyd..........:boxing: floyd is still afraid to fight a past prime and a part time boxer pacquiao. Lol.

He's not in his physical prime(or at least this doesn't appear to be his best weight all around) but he is in his mental prime... I would still give Pac a lotta credit if he defeated him...

his speed has slipped a little bit with the muscle he put on but past prime is kind of absurd, he didnt use his legs against Mosley because he didnt have to except for the second round he completely dominated shane by standing in front of him

bump.....lets see if pacquiao can beat a semi-retired mayweather..who retired twice. I think a past prime mayweather can beat pacquiao, because i saw a past prime morales beat pacquiao with skills.

wow freddie is just the king of bullsh*t

Pac is defiantly in his prime. To say otherwise is frankly ridiculous. In his last 5 fights he has looked much better than in any other 5-fight sequence in his career. You can make a strong argument that Mayweather is in his absolute prime. He has looked extremely impressive in his last few fights, certainly better than he was at 140 or 135. However, Mayweather also had a very impressive run at 130, so you can make a plausible argument that that was his prime. However, if Mayweather has declined it is only by a very marginal amount.

Prime is a hard thing to nail down. I think Physically he may be past his prime in the sense that he probably isn't quite as fast as he used to be. But mentally I think he's sharper then ever. I like to think of Bernard hopkins, who at age 36 I would consider still in his prime. It was his peak imo because mentally, he became a true execution of his abilities and strategy. I see floyd in the same way right now. Sure he may have lost fractions of a second of the speed of his punch, but he is on top of his game right now. Some excellent points! That said, I'm not entirely sure Mayweather has the testicular fortitude of one Bernard Hopkins.

Floyd has been past his prime even before Roach made his statements..but people are confusing the meaning, past his prime doesnt exactly mean hes no longer good..just..Floyd is past it in the sense that hes not what he used to be..but he is still great and the best boxer in the world right now.. This is precisely the point. Even so it is still debatable whether or not Mayweather is past his prime, and if we assume he is, it is only by a very small margin. That said, I do believe there is significant potential that he has slipped just a tad bit given his age and relative inactivity lately, but it's tough to say. dont be thinkin pacquiao is prime neither I disagree here, Pac. is the best that he has ever been. Do you honestly believe that the same Pac. who was decisioned by Morales, and who went to hell and back with Marquez, would've, back-to-back, made such easy work of Hatton, Cotto and Clottey? Pacquiao is, in my opinion at the top of his game as of right now.

like freddie roach said floyd doesnt use his legs anymore floyd doesnt use combinations anymore, his work rate has decreased, his speed isn't the same how it used to be. apart from that floyd will be 34 years old by the time this fight will happen..they werent ready for him before, roach saw something in the mosley fight. either way a past prime floyd still beats manny, but is floyd being past his prime an advantage for manny? like if floyd was in his prime he would massacre pacquiao gatti style, but right now since floyd is past his prime this match-up becomes a bit closerSh*t! If Floyd is that beatable then Pac's refusal is even more laughable

like freddie roach said floyd doesnt use his legs anymore floyd doesnt use combinations anymore, his work rate has decreased, his speed isn't the same how it used to be. apart from that floyd will be 34 years old by the time this fight will happen..they werent ready for him before, roach saw something in the mosley fight. either way a past prime floyd still beats manny, but is floyd being past his prime an advantage for manny? like if floyd was in his prime he would massacre pacquiao gatti style, but right now since floyd is past his prime this match-up becomes a bit closer Is freddy roach in the gym with floyd every ****ing day? sure sounds like it