Does Ali have the greatest chin of any heavyweight of all time?

Yo, learn some respect before you type. The name is Muhammad, learn to address it properly. The talk is of fighters achievements not what you can do with their names.

@ Mmmmmm.ham.ad. Don't re-post your crazy-color-post again. Just tell me which "argument" you feel is unanswered. If there are several "arguments" then list them 1... 2... 3... I will gladly answer them (if they are ontopic and if I haven't answered them already). Listen, this was really the last time I ask. You are simply refusing to give a coherent reply although I asked you several times now. I think you are doing it on purpose, Mrs Muhama Duck. quack, quack, quack. Argument ducked again.

George Chuvalo and Randall Cobb have better chins... championship level... Ali might be top notch.

David the Tuaman Tua is number one!!! what punchers did tua fight?

David the Tuaman Tua is number one!!!

"Earth to CLAYton... Earth to CLAYton: Every shot that lands makes a sound." -It was a HARD shot, so it has a LOUD sound. Are you that thick? "Unfortunately "my" definition is the official definition. Your definition is a long-gone definition (from 1920). Just like Red Indians are not considered Indians anymore." - Ok, let me humiliate you by posting the CONTEXT on your visitor messages. Don't delete them now like a coward. EDIT: Actually I'll post it here: The weight limit of the heavyweights has changed as have the size of its fighters in the division. it was RARE to see a 6'7 250lb heavyweight in the 50's and 60's. This is why that specific weight range is a heavyweight class. But to use a current definition (which has no authority) and try and superimpose it on an era in which only 1% of fighters matched the current definition is just plain absurdity. This proves that Ali was fighting in a legitimate heavyweight division. "He _WAS_ KOed by Holmes. Don't use this fight as an argument for Ali's chin, because the early stoppage probably saved Clay from licking mud in the remaining 5 rounds." - This post alone has just destroyed the minute credibility that you had left. It's seems as though you don't know how to read a resume. Skip this video to to 2:52 you tard: Once again, If an old man with parkinsons and heat stroke couldn't be Ko'd by prime holmes, then what chance does Ross purity have? "You don't need any example whom Clay survived (without getting KDed) if you have examples who KDed him (Cooper, Frazier, ...)." - Survived? are you serious? just a grazing punch from shavers would have KO'd any other heavyweight. Vladimir's head would fly into the cheap seats. All you would hear is shattered glass. "What are you talking about? I deleted it AFTER YOU erased my messages, and suddenly YOUR babble was visible while my answers to your babble were missing." -of course I deleted your messages. They were nothing short of retardation. "The proof is that I still have the whole conversation with tourlou82, who is also a CLAYton. I actually don't care too much what you wrote, because every post of yours is a CLAYton-footbullet anyway. " - lol, that user already debunked your bullshit many times over. Here it is for you to read: "I actually tolerated you longer than I should have hating, spamming and repeating the same nonsense you were in denial over some unarguable facts (like that prior to the moment the CW division was created, there was no such thing as a CW fighter, hence, if you were fighting weighing 176 lbs, you were a HW, and you still are to this day) as MmuhammadM wisely said, you can't force today's standards onto the past standards if we follow your crazy logic, Marciano, Tunney, Dempsey, Charles, Walcott, Johnson were never HW champions" "Mind you, there _ARE_ valuable Ali-fans, who are nice to read and pleasant to converse with about Ali, because Ali DID HAVE some valuable assets. But you are not only a CLAYton (with some obvious fantasies about Ali's male body) but also an extremely bad poster: Both technically (= you still don't know how to correctly quote) and in content." - It's a shame that you continuously ignore the facts about ALi's resume and continue to discredit his great victories, with some of the worse "sour grapes" and lies I have read in recent memory. You seem to have fantasies about 200ib+ men with glass chins. You are not just a bad poster, you are a complete retard who refuses to acknowledge the facts. Stating the facts is such an easy thing to do, unless you are a retard of course.

I didn't change anything. This was your original post. Yeah so? I answered it nevertheless. What "argument" is it that you consider unanswered? everything in my coloured post. Yes you did change it.

I edited what? I did already. All of them. If there is an argument missing then tell it now and I will answer it. "Counter" is the word you changed No you didn't I don't see it quoted.

I already did. Please reread my posts. lol, I already knew you edited that. No you did not. You said it was irrelevant. debunk and destroy my arguments in the "colour coded" post about 9 pages back.

And I said many other things. Please re-read my posts from the beginning of the thread. Counter my arguments presented in my colour coded posts.

I already answered it at #220 and #223. No you just complained about my "insults", "quoting skills" and also denied that vlad has a glass chin. You also said there was nothing relevant. Try harder.........

I ask you "What questions do you have?". You say "Read my post". I say "I read it and there are no questions. If you want something answered then ask me now". What part don't you understand? There are no questions in your color posts to be answered or that I haven't answered already or that would be ontopic. lol when did we talk about questions? My ARGUMENTS are in the "colour coded" post. Come on floyd, find your balls, go back 7 pages and quote my original post. If you cannot counter my arguments then just admit it instead of ducking.

Loaded with QUOTES OF MINE and of tourlou82. I don't see any question of YOURS there. If YOU have a question then ask it NOW, Mr Muhamma Duck. Errr, no. Your sounding alot like floyd mayweather jr right now. If you don't quote my "colour coded" post and respond to EVERY point inside it, the duck on you part is official.

I thought so: You are unable so substantiate any claims. I asked you now several times for a concrete question. All I got is "my color post, my color post". There are no question in that color post. You got owned again. And stop spamming threads with this Youtube clip. The colour post is loaded with content. Go back about five pages and respond to everything inside it.

OK, listen, this is your last chance: I read the colored post and I couldn't find any "argument" that didn't answer already. If you feel that you have some arguments that aren't answered yet, then tell them now and I will answer them. And stop referring to your color post, there is nothing in there. If you have questions then ask them now. Otherwise it's one of your typical tactics where you repeat 10 times the same lame denial: Some poster: "Ali got KDed" You: "No, he slipped" Some poster: "Are you blind?" You: "No, you are blind" Some poster: "Ali wobbles" You: "He doesn't wobble" Yawn. It's getting lame. I answered all of your questions already. If not, then tell me the question AGAIN without referring to some other post. :sleeping: Nothing in this Post has responded to My original "colour coded" post. In a few short hours you will be inducted into the IHOF for "greatest argument duckers on NSB"

What argument? read the "coloured" post. This really isn't looking good on you. Stop ducking.

What position? My argument about weight/chin and the CONTEXT, which you ran away from for 2 days straight. It's all in the "coloured" post. Let's see if you are going to read it.

Ali fought Frazier, Foreman, Paterson etc etc, but he got rocked by Henry Cooper and the fight should have been stopped in all fairness.

Rocky Marciano

no..............