Come on Froch, you really think you could take a Prime Calzaghe?

Don't think that Calzaghe was prime against Hopkins. Calzaghe actually hit dangerously hard when his hands weren't destroyed. Ask Eubank about it. Calzaghe was a monster.

I think Froch is better than Lacy was but still it is hard to imagine Joe Cal not out boxing him too.

People have different opinions of JC, but no one exposed him. If no one exposed him, it must have been because he was very good. If you downgrade him, even though no one beat him, you must be a bit of a hater.

calzaghe was a legitimately great fighter, great to watch, hard to beat. Is he in the league of a prime bernard or jones? Absolutely not, but I think he wouldv competed with both guys...when calzaghe fought hopkins, b-hop was still a great fighter, still in the p4p rankings, and had great and dominant performances before and after the calzaghe fight. Yes calzaghe had some very dubious title defences but when a guy has 20 there are gonna be some soft ones in there. Fact is he was the king of a division when it was weak, but woodhall, brewer, reid, eubank, mitchell, were all former champs and solid wins. Ottke should have happened, but lets face it we all know what would have happened...ottke got gift decisions over reid, and mitchell, if calzaghe didn't go over there and stop him he might have lost. When there finally were 2 champions that the public clamoured for unification fights (lacy, and kessler) calzaghe took them on and won in dominant fashion, probably past his best (long term hand and back injuries). Froch wouldn't have gotten anywhere near this guy, to be honest if they fought this year even call me crazy but with a solid training camp under him I would still expect calzaghe to win

Calzaghe would of overwhelmed Froch. Calzaghe beat the best version of Kessler imo. Since then, Kessler has slowed down abit imo. He seems slower, less accurate and is overall more sluggish. His 1-2 combo to the head isn't there anymore either.

And Manfredo was loosing to Welterweights Evans Ashira was ranked around 300 at light middle. The bums Froch was fighting >>>>>> Manfredo and Ashira. FACT. Joe didnt fancy a competitive fight. Woodhall, prime reid, sheika, bika, lacy, byron mitchell, brewer, eubank> any bum froch fought. at 175, hopkins beats taylor and so does roy jones at the time. they also beat pascal too. not now though, been too long. Roy is shot and hopkins had too long a lay off for his age. anyway, kessler was beaten by joe, and kessler beat froch.

Joe calzaghes best and most recognized wins were against an over the hill jones jr. and b-hop.... 'Nuff said. And Froch's? Pascal who? Great fight to watch, but even as a LHW champ, he's not elite or even great. His win VS Taylor who won nearly all of the rounds until the 12th, Who also lost by KO I think 3 fights before against Pavlik, lost again 9And Pavlik got schooled twice since), won vs lacy (Rotator cuff ****ed up and he's done), Then Taylor got KTFO against AA who lost every round VS Dirrell. OK so Taylor isn't really a good win sicne he also was more of a MW fighter. Then Dirrell. His win was seen as a lost by very many. Home town ref didn't deduct points his rabbit punches, yet dirrell for his ducking. He even through Dirrell down. Calzaghe beat a guy who beat Froch.

LOL, Manfredo was a better fight for him that Froch at the time, what the hell was Froch doing in Spring 2007? (Let me boxrec it), he was the British Champion and fighting bums, that's right. In 2005, when Calzaghe fought Ashira (a tune up), lets see what Froch was doing... Oh, wow.. He was the commonwealth champion and fighting bums. And Manfredo was loosing to Welterweights Evans Ashira was ranked around 300 at light middle. The bums Froch was fighting >>>>>> Manfredo and Ashira. FACT. Joe didnt fancy a competitive fight.

What was compubox like for Calzaghe/Hopkins since it was the most god-awful fight I ever seen? Did compubox have BHOP clinching more then landing punches? I wouldn't be shocked! :popcorn: Oh yeah, I'm re-watching that fight right now and neither boxer really landed very cleanly on the other. I saw no robbery, but it was one of the crappiest fights I ever seen. The best punch for BHOP was the knockdown he got in the first round, other then that he wasn't really impressive at all in the fight. Not that Calzaghe looked great, but who the **** looks good against Headbuttkins?

People should ask kessler to compare the two. I suppose he will say Froch hit harder. But i think i remember kessler acknowledging he thought he lost to JC.

Froch just got beaten by an inferior version of a guy Calzaghe thoroughly outboxed. No, I'm not a believer of the triangle theory, but Froch was clearly outboxed by a shot Jermain Taylor over 11 rounds as well. Joe works him, even the current 38 year old partying version. And Froch was an unknown to anyone outside of England at the time Joe fought Manfredo, in an attempt to further expose himself to an American audience.

Calzaghe had the chance to fight Froch and Shut his mouth once and for all, But he instead faught Peter " Lost to a Welterweight " Manfreeeeedo, and the "MIGHTY" Evans Ashira who needed 6 months to get up to the weight. Nuff said LOL, Manfredo was a better fight for him that Froch at the time, what the hell was Froch doing in Spring 2007? (Let me boxrec it), he was the British Champion and fighting bums, that's right. In 2005, when Calzaghe fought Ashira (a tune up), lets see what Froch was doing... Oh, wow.. He was the commonwealth champion and fighting bums.

must be why not a SINGLE ringside scorer had the fight for calzaghe, including the british scorers. Do I have to pull up polls? HBO scored it got Calzaghe,Setanta scored it for Calzaghe, BBC scored it for Calzaghe so I don't know what you're talking about. ESPN and some of Press row gave it to Hopkins but the majority gave it to Calzaghe.

Your an Italian, you witnessed your fellow Italian Calzaghe eat flush counter ringt after flush counter right. JAJAJAJA, I'm making a montage of Headbuttkins right now. And you're right I am part Italian, but who isn't now adays? :D

Calzaghe had the chance to fight Froch and Shut his mouth once and for all, But he instead faught Peter " Lost to a Welterweight " Manfreeeeedo, and the "MIGHTY" Evans Ashira who needed 6 months to get up to the weight. Nuff said

80 % of people think Calzaghe beat Hopkins. must be why not a SINGLE ringside scorer had the fight for calzaghe, including the british scorers.

Which one the one where Cheatkins had to clinch his opponent to death and use headbutts? Cheatkins always cheaters against skillful fighters like he did against Roy Jones Jr, Calzaghe, and Wright. Why does Cheatkins even have fans? Is it only because he is a philly boy? I remember when I was in high-school people would ask me why wasn't I a huge fan of Cheatkins. Well, for one he is boring and uses dirty tactics to win his fights. Cheatkins didn't even have to cheat against limited fighter Pavlik. He became BHOP again, only in certain fights BHOP didn't have to cheat to try and win. It was a sin not to be a fan of BHOP when you live as close to philly as I do. Your an Italian, you witnessed your fellow Italian Calzaghe eat flush counter ringt after flush counter right.

agree with SoldierWarrior on what hes saying about hopkins and his philly roots. i think alot of African, US fight fans will automatically get behind b-hop because he represents everything that a black fighter is all about in the sport of boxing. hes a savvy boxer who has clearly worked very hard and he still has that ruthless 'gangsta' edge to him as well. imo froch is tailor made for calzaghe, he would find his southpaw stance too difficult and his low hands would mean that he was constantly eating punches. froch has a ridiculous tendency to wind up his power punches and throw them as single shots (especially the uppercut). imo if the kess that fought calzaghe had fought froch he would have KO'd him.

One of those wins is split amungst the public as well. Which one the one where Cheatkins had to clinch his opponent to death and use headbutts? Cheatkins always cheaters against skillful fighters like he did against Roy Jones Jr, Calzaghe, and Wright. Why does Cheatkins even have fans? Is it only because he is a philly boy? I remember when I was in high-school people would ask me why wasn't I a huge fan of Cheatkins. Well, for one he is boring and uses dirty tactics to win his fights. Cheatkins didn't even have to cheat against limited fighter Pavlik. He became BHOP again, only in certain fights BHOP didn't have to cheat to try and win. It was a sin not to be a fan of BHOP when you live as close to philly as I do.

****ing beast!