Both Froch and Kessler are tailor made for Kelly Pavlik

Kessler would beat Pavlik. Pavlik is really nothing special although I do like him.

lol soooo i "dont watch boxing" but u insist that ward is getting home fights because he wants it, not because he wining? ward is the lineal champ, and is the leader in the tourney, yet that has nothing to do with the fact that he has home fights? so if ward has to fight dirrell in detroit, hes gonna back out right? If kessler has to fight outside of denmark, hes gonna quit too right? haha what a joke.... how did he get the Kessler fight at home then, he had no belts then did he? he has to make financial sacrifices to get that fight at home

jermain taylor did not train "as hard as he could" most fighters say they work hard, but there are def some that work harder than others.... floyd mayweather has better preparation than jermain taylor, so that tells me that jermain needs to work harder how da **** do you know, did you see him train? WTF

lol soooo i "dont watch boxing" but u insist that ward is getting home fights because he wants it, not because he wining? ward is the lineal champ, and is the leader in the tourney, yet that has nothing to do with the fact that he has home fights? so if ward has to fight dirrell in detroit, hes gonna back out right? If kessler has to fight outside of denmark, hes gonna quit too right? haha what a joke.... its in the contract that ward gets all 3 of his group fights at home. it was decided before he beat kessler.

Clearly more than you, if you watched the JT-Froch fight before and after the fight JT says he trained the hardest he could, he couldn't be any fitter, froch beat the best JT theres been in a while, as shown in the frist half performance in that fight Nothing froch did produced that outcome LMAO, now much boxing to watch excatly :slap: i dont consider a KO lucky because its either the fighter got careless or the other fighter delivered a good punch or both, thats part of boxing its not luck jermain taylor did not train "as hard as he could" most fighters say they work hard, but there are def some that work harder than others.... floyd mayweather has better preparation than jermain taylor, so that tells me that jermain needs to work harder

Yet more nonsense and fairytales. Ward stated in a TV interview before the Super Six started that he would be fighting at home for every fight. You would know this is you watched boxing because it was after one of his fights and was discussed in the Fight Camp documentary. lol soooo i "dont watch boxing" but u insist that ward is getting home fights because he wants it, not because he wining? ward is the lineal champ, and is the leader in the tourney, yet that has nothing to do with the fact that he has home fights? so if ward has to fight dirrell in detroit, hes gonna back out right? If kessler has to fight outside of denmark, hes gonna quit too right? haha what a joke....

Crikey. No, just no. Both KO Pavlik.

It is tough to say they would be good fights though.

I don't think it was a lucky knock out against Taylor but taylor did mess up. He was moving around the ring like a jack rabbit all amped up always twitching and shit. Add that wasted energy to the energy wasted in the second round when Taylor wasted all kinds of energy to finish Pavlik but failed to get the job done and he was almost sure to gas. I think he was in real good shape going into the Pavlik fight though just he wasted his energy.

a ko is never lucky?? lol ok how much boxing do u watch exactly?? the ko itself wasnt lucky, the circumstances leading to it were... had jermain taylor been in shape, he would have won... im dead serious when i say that there is nothing that froch did that produced that outcome... his froch not landed a single blow, jermain taylor would have been dead tired in round 11 Clearly more than you, if you watched the JT-Froch fight before and after the fight JT says he trained the hardest he could, he couldn't be any fitter, froch beat the best JT theres been in a while, as shown in the frist half performance in that fight Nothing froch did produced that outcome LMAO, now much boxing to watch excatly :slap: i dont consider a KO lucky because its either the fighter got careless or the other fighter delivered a good punch or both, thats part of boxing its not luck

You must have missed the dispute over where Ward-Dirrell should be held. And the dispute over Ward having all of his fights in Oakland. And the dispute over where in Denmark Kessler-Froch should take place. And the part of the Fight Camp episode where DiBella wasn't keen on sending Taylor to Germany and Denmark. Do you even follow boxing? You seem to have no knowledge of anything to do with the sport and appear to be making up random events that didn't happen and ignoring proven facts. you seem to making stupid ass assumptions.. First of all, the FACT of the matter is that FROCH, just got beat for his belt, and has a controversial decision in the uk.. Another FACT: AA was HAS NEVER BEEN BEATEN, HES BEEN DQ'D, WHICH IS A LOSS, BUT HE WAS NOT BEATEN-- and he has more points than froch, WTF if u look at the situation as a whole, u can see why these fights are taking place where they are. FROCH IS JUST A BITCH

I don't know. I'm on the fence.

lol and thats not a bitch move at all.... idk about u, but if im a fighter, i KNOW im gonna win, no matter where we fight.. the fact that froch is absolutely unwilling to fight aa in germany tells me that hes SCARED, which makes him a bitch.... period. well ok then if you would give up home advantage that was already agreed to u in the biggest fight of your career, were if u lose your career is virtually over - to fight in someone elses backyard when u know that home advantage plays a big part in the outcome of a fight, against a world class boxer (who is favoured to beat u) then i guess u have balls of steel and the brains of a retarded goldfish. Maybe AA is the bitch trying to change the venue? Maybe neither of them are, they are just smart enough to realise the importance of the home advantage. why didnt Pavlik fight AA in Germany again? To busy crying into a bottle of whiskey about losing to a 44 year old was he?

ward isnt traveling because his would-be opponent got ko'd brutally, while he stopped the favorite in the tourney... he earned his home field advantage... froch got a bullshit decision.... you are a twat ward hasnt earnt shit one good win, do me a favour he, he offered more money to the opponent to get home field advantage

carl froch isnt destroying anybody, the bitch is scared to fight outside of the uk! And Pavlik has fought abroad how many times?..................

lol and thats not a bitch move at all.... idk about u, but if im a fighter, i KNOW im gonna win, no matter where we fight.. the fact that froch is absolutely unwilling to fight aa in germany tells me that hes SCARED, which makes him a bitch.... period. i bitch move is agreeing to fight someone somewhere and then asking who to change it after already agreeing.

This is nonsense. You clearly live in your own world of make-believe. So far, the home fighter has won every fight. Froch-AA was arranged for the UK, and now suddenly AA's people are trying to change that. It's hardly a surprise that Froch is going to be a bit annoyed that they are trying to change the venue of his fight without his consent. Oh, and you're wrong (again) about everyone having to travel. Ward doesn't have to travel at all. ward isnt traveling because his would-be opponent got ko'd brutally, while he stopped the favorite in the tourney... he earned his home field advantage... froch got a bullshit decision....

thats because theres already been an agreement Ehhh, pavik has also lost the two best fighters hes faced And a KO is never lucky, he wore him and Ko'ed him not lucky a ko is never lucky?? lol ok how much boxing do u watch exactly?? the ko itself wasnt lucky, the circumstances leading to it were... had jermain taylor been in shape, he would have won... im dead serious when i say that there is nothing that froch did that produced that outcome... his froch not landed a single blow, jermain taylor would have been dead tired in round 11

He's bitching cos there is/was an agreement already in place to have the fight in the UK and AA/Sautherland wants to change it to Germany. U expect him to say "yeah, no problem i'll gladly give up the home advantage i was promised in a fight that decides my future in the tournament against a fighter as good as AA" even though not one single fighter has won away from home in this tourny to date? Froch's balls>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pavliks balls (well what he has left of them sinnce hopkins took them away from him) lol and thats not a bitch move at all.... idk about u, but if im a fighter, i KNOW im gonna win, no matter where we fight.. the fact that froch is absolutely unwilling to fight aa in germany tells me that hes SCARED, which makes him a bitch.... period.

never heard a kelly pavlik statement saying hell cancel a fight if hes not at home.... just saying.... when kelly pavlik had a chance to face a euro champion, the euro champion bitches up, and move to another weight class.... dont make it seem like carl froch is having a more challenging career than kelly pavlik, because thats a dumbass thought... anyone can see that carl froch wont be around long enough to be undisputed. kelly pavlik has two loses to two of the best fighters today... kessler has two losses the only two true threats hes ever faced.. carl froch has gotten luck in his only two big wins (home town decision, and last second ko)... there is no foundation to make ur case for these two fighters beating pavlik... thats because theres already been an agreement between the froch and abraham camps Ehhh, pavik has also lost the two best fighters hes faced, had was also completely dominated in both And a KO is never lucky, he wore him and Ko'ed him not lucky and pascal is also a very good win make that 3 big wins and how many has pavlik had??? not many more.