List the fighters he needs to face and beat to be considered the best of this era. He is fighting Mosley so that takes him off the list. Who else is there?
To be honest, Floyd HAS the respect he is due because of whom he has beaten. That's the whole point really.
He will get more respect for facing Mosley. How much depends on how the fight goes and how much Mosley brings to the fight. Because Mosley is towards the end of his career noone can say how he will perform until the night.
It surprises me to say it but at this point Floyd needs to avoid the Cottos and Margaritos as they are damaged, pre-beaten goods and look at fighters who currently look very dominant such as Williams, Pacqiaou and Berto. Williams is seen as a very threatening, lively, peak fighter. Just facing him would answer a lot of critics (myself included).
he needs to get all the belts at welter and move up to jr middle and take all those belts the he can be considered great..right now hes just good..really good
he doesn't ned to go to jr welter........the man is a small welter as it is....he has only recently grown into a 147 frame. He started at jr lightweight. All he needs to do is leave no doubt at 147.....that means beating Pac and SSM........and if Paul wants to get it at 147 after that.....then whip him too.
he needs to get all the belts at welter and move up to jr middle and take all those belts the he can be considered great..right now hes just good..really good
List the fighters he needs to face and beat to be considered the best of this era. He is fighting Mosley so that takes him off the list. Who else is there?
The post below is something I wrote on another thread but it addresses your question and how I feel about Mayweather...
How many other boxers fought a prime Vernon Forrest? Not many. Vernon Forrest was as avoided in his prime as Paul Williams is today (both are very tall/lanky fighters who were/are superb boxers). Shane was unbeaten and on top of the world at the time and could have avoided a fight with Forrest like other boxers. He fought him twice though (second fight was competitive) and this says a lot about the kind of mentality and heart he has. When is Mayweather going to fight a young prime fighter that presents the same kind of stylistic problems that someone like Vernon Forrest did for Mosley? That fighter currently certainly exists in the form of Paul Williams. We will see if Mayweather has the heart to fight someone like that who has physical advantages over him. We know Mosley had the heart to do it when he was undefeated and regarded as the best as Mayweather currently is. People ask why do so many seem to hate on Mayweather? I don't hate him (he is one of the most talented boxers I've ever seen) but their are fighters out there who could beat him. I want to see him fight those fighters. If he is truly the best ever as he likes to claim he will prevail. Mosley was in the same position and took those challenges. That's why many boxing fans root against Mayweather so ardently, because he hasn't taken those same challenges (they are out there) and self-admittedly only fights for the $$$...
Mosley fought Wright twice at 154 lbs. Wright was the naturally bigger man and was also being avoided by many elite fighters when Shane fought him (second fight was very competitive, actually scored a tie on one judges card). Not many fighters have looked good against Wright other than Fernando Vargas (who Mosley beat twice although he was shot at this point) Hopkins during certain spurts although he was the much larger man, and of course Paul Williams. Again, when one looks at Mayweather's resume you don't see fighters on it that were avoided or who were known as fighters that you don't look good against (even if you win) like Winky Wright. This again speaks volumes about the different mentalities the two fighters (Mosley and Mayweather) possess. One has truly been willing to fight the most challenging fighters while the other hasn't displayed this same mentality. Mayweather still has some time to do this before his career ends.
Cotto barely was able to get a decision win against a 36 yr old Mosley when he was 27. What does this tell you about what might have happened had he fought a Mosley who was in his prime? Cotto barely won this fight and after this fight I knew his skills weren't as good as advertised and wasn't surprised when other fighters (one who probably cheated) including the smaller Pacquiao were able to defeat him. But regardless of that the point remains that Mosley was willing to fight a younger, prime fighter at his advanced age of 36. Sure, you can say he had nothing to lose so of course he'd take the fight but could you see Mayweather doing the same thing? When Floyd is 36 do you see him fighting a much younger fighter who is favored to beat him? In 2013 when Floyd is 36 could you envision him fighting Devon Alexander who will be 26? I don't think so, especially if he is still making a concious effort to fight opponents who aren't really threats to blemish his undefeated record.
Irrespective of how he might look in sparring I hope that on May 1st Mosley is able to fight as well as he can. He is old but he is far from being shot. Old means that you might not be consistent from fight to fight, some fights you might look like your younger prime self and other fights you might look a little slow. Being shot means you can't sustain any consistency, not only from one fight to the next but even from one round to another (Roy Jones Jr). Mosley is still very much capable of looking like his prime self for an entire fight. If he can fight as well as he has in the recent past he will present problems for Floyd. I am looking forward to seeing a competitive fight and I don't see it being a one-sided Mayweather victory. Two of the three fighters who have defeated Mosley were avoided fighters who had physical advantages (Forrest's height/length, Wright being a naturally larger fighter at 154). Cotto also won and I'd attribute this to him being a solid fighter who was in his prime. Mosley's five losses (to these three different opponents) are not bad losses. He has never lost to a boxer who fights like Mayweather (superb mover) because in the past he possessed enough quickness to keep up with boxers like Floyd. We'll see on May 1st if he still has enough of his quickness to get close to Floyd and land his power shots. I think he does still have enough (nothing I've seen from him recently indicates otherwise and he seems to be very motivated to beat Mayweather) and look forward to viewing a competitive fight...
List the fighters he needs to face and beat to be considered the best of this era. He is fighting Mosley so that takes him off the list. Who else is there?
Floyd will get full respect when he retires. We can all take the time to appreciate his career, and the same goes for any fighter of this era.
List the fighters he needs to face and beat to be considered the best of this era. He is fighting Mosley so that takes him off the list. Who else is there?It doesn't matter who he beats. Believe it or not the lack of respect comes as a reaction to Floyd's persona not his resume.' Most fans are common people who get sick of Floyd's bragging,boasting and shit talking(especially about MONEY). I respect the hell out of Floyd the boxer but sometimes get irritated and aggravated by Floyd the man. I have yet to think that he will lose a fight and I'm not oing to start with Mosley.
Most people just don't want to hear all that money shit all te time and all that bull hit about nose jobs and clothes,cars etc. GO PBF!
I think the fights he could have made are no longer worthy, back then he could have fought Cotto, Margarito and Williams instead of Judah, Baldomir and Hatton, that would have definitely risen his popularity with the hardcore fans, but he opted to lay back let everybody fight each other and then go for the winner, management wise it’s the best decision, legacy wise maybe not, prove of this, he still doesn’t get the respect of the majority of fans…
Also many people dislike him as a person for many reasons…
Floyd really is in a no win situation with the fans. He's already not getting any respect from the fans, even after he agreed to fight a guy who many of his haters said he would never fight.
He can fight and beat Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Pacquiao, and Berto, people would still say bad things about him.
Only time I ever saw him lose a fight was against JLC
That's because he ran too much. Outside of that, he's flawless.
Not a bad guy to get a suspect win over either IMO.
Shit he totally clowned JLC the second time.
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List the fighters he needs to face and beat to be considered the best of this era. He is fighting Mosley so that takes him off the list. Who else is there?
If it was up to him? Gerry Penalosa.
Floyd really is in a no win situation with the fans. He's already not getting any respect from the fans, even after he agreed to fight a guy who many of his haters said he would never fight.
He can fight and beat Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Pacquiao, and Berto, people would still say bad things about him.
Floyd is going to clown Shane all over the place en route to a relatively easy decision because he'll jab Mosley to death:
Then he'll easily knock Manny Pacquiao out within 7 rounds.
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List the fighters he needs to face and beat to be considered the best of this era. He is fighting Mosley so that takes him off the list. Who else is there?
If he beats Pacman, Margarito, Cotto, P.Will people still wont respect him. If he moves up in weight and fights Valuve and Haye then I think he get a little respect 20 years from now.
yuri foreman, dimitry salita, and erik morales at 147
I think he could fight them all on the same night,
And have little trouble stopping all three with an accumulation of blows.
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List the fighters he needs to face and beat to be considered the best of this era. He is fighting Mosley so that takes him off the list. Who else is there?
yuri foreman, dimitry salita, and erik morales at 147
16y ago
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