Pavlik might have won that fight if he had George Petersen in his corner.

All I know is, Martinez saw that cut and opened up. Kelly had no answer. Don't know if any instructions would've prevented that.

That doesn't always win the fight, as Pavlik showed in rounds 4-8. Some of those rounds were close and could've gone either way. Sergio paced himself during the middle rounds to make sure he had something left for the final few rounds of the fight.

You know. A trainer who actually knows how to control cuts. I know Martinez beat Pavlik with skill, but I do think if Pavlik had a trainer that knew how to deal with cuts he might have stood a better chance going down the stretch because he was doing good until his face was masked with blood. Goes to show you always have a good cut man in your corner. We saw what has happened to Juan Diaz and now this situation is kinda similar. But full credit to Maravilla. He is a beast. Good point.

nope, kelly still wouldve been outboxed and beaten to the punch repeatedly. i think it was part of sergio's strategy to pace himself in the middle rounds so he could finish strong. he alluded to that in the post fight interview. a change in corner and location is way overdue though. kelly's loyalty will be the death of his career.

Disagree. The fight would've been a lot closer, but Sergio would've still won because he was too fast and Sergio is more skilled than Kelly. That doesn't always win the fight, as Pavlik showed in rounds 4-8.

Disagree. The fight would've been a lot closer, but Sergio would've still won because he was too fast and Sergio is more skilled than Kelly.

If Pavlik wasnt cut the fight would have been very close. If he had a cut man who could do his job the fight would have been closer. He couldnt deal with the cuts. They changed the fight.

Look at how Paul Williams was cut in the Phillips fight? I know Phillips sucked at that time, but you still notice of how his trainer got that shit under control. And Williams was able to be competitive in the first Quintana fight with both cuts over his eyes even though he lost. He was cut in the Martinez fight and won it closing the fight out strong even though I had Martinez barely edging it out.

You know. A trainer who actually knows how to control cuts. I know Martinez beat Pavlik with skill, but I do think if Pavlik had a trainer that knew how to deal with cuts he might have stood a better chance going down the stretch because he was doing good until his face was masked with blood. Goes to show you always have a good cut man in your corner. We saw what has happened to Juan Diaz and now this situation is kinda similar. But full credit to Maravilla. He is a beast. don't know who petersen is that you speak of but I just thought it looked poor how they controlled that cut. Using what looked like tissues and napkins and shit.

Anybody else agree? yer m8 i agree, i had Pavlik winning rounds 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and plus the knockdown. Pavlik would have won at least 2 of the last 4 if he has a decent cutman

Anybody else agree?