you pactardos are so retarded. yall are the only group of fanboys who purposely takes someones post out of context, throw out their logic behind their post just to inject yalls own retarded logic.
amazing
so you're trying to say that the real retards are the ones who provoke pactards. I agree.
obviously the point of the thread flew over your head.
Floyd only talks about fighting pac besides shane. no one else is worth his time, he wants to beat pacs ass.
while its clear, with all the other in house fights team pac keeps talking about that arum and pac doesnt want to step in the ring with floyd
get it now?
so you're trying to say that floyd is backed into a corner and has to fight pac next. I agree with that.
Yet so far from Team Pac we have heard:
Foreman
Cotto II
Margarito
Valero
Team Mayweather ONLY wants Pac next.
Floyd hasn't said anything and neither has Pac.
Yet so far from Team Pac we have heard:
Foreman
Cotto II
Margarito
Valero
Team Mayweather ONLY wants Pac next.
Moreover they are all Top Rank fighters at that.
But yeah, I agree Pacquiao is #1 P4P so realistically I guess he could get any fight he wanted.
Yet so far from Team Pac we have heard:
Foreman
Cotto II
Margarito
Valero
Team Mayweather ONLY wants Pac next.
This is a useless post. Mayweather's team hasn't mentioned any other opponent other than Mosley since the Pac fight fel apart. These opponents you have listed are the weakest available opponents that he could fight next. I noticed that they haven't mentioned Bradley, Alexander or Mosley, all of whom would be better opponents than any of these, even if Mosley loses.
take risks my ass dude, pacroid has been on a tour of fighting str8 losers since coming to JWW.
dude only wants to fight the weakest link, hence, weight drained DLH at a catch weight of 147 when dlh wasnt able to make 147 and roach knew it.
a shot cotto who got destroyed by marg andhas been getting tats to try and get his confidence back. who pac fought at a CATCHWEIGHT
stationary Clottey who lost in his prior fight to a shot cotto.
hatton after he was destroyed by floyd.
Risks? hahaha, dontmake me laugh
Catch weight of 147 against DLH? wtf? 147 is now a catchweight lol! DLH called out Pacquiao after Pac fought Diaz. It is not a catch weight moron.
Roach was playing mind games...If you take it seriously thats cool lol.
He aint ever fighting Williams unless 1 of them drops haymon. There's some kind of law against it. And he's only had 1 fight at 154 you really think with the kind of business mind floyd has he'd take such a stupid risk of fighting at 160 with pavlik or martinez when there's a fight worth much more both business and legacywise right in his own weightclass???
Well when that guy doesnt want to fight you move on.
Bradley is a good fight next.
Yet so far from Team Pac we have heard:
Foreman
Cotto II
Margarito
Valero
Team Mayweather ONLY wants Pac next.
Well, the difference with Mayweather is he wants the biggest bang for his buck, and right now its only Pacquiao. But I'm sure they have names they're keeping their eye on just in case shit happens (which is frequent in Boxing). Pac just has a different mindset. He simply likes to fight and he'll take the risks. Like, I don't see Floyd beating Mosley and jumpin to fight Paul Williams. He doesn't have a lot of names to choose from who are at least a close 2nd to Pacquiao as far as what money can be brought.
So you gotta ask yourself, who really needs who the most? People will pay top dollar to see Pacquiao fight a car tire because of his style, not sure if Floyd fighting a contender or a decent, solid fighter will make people rush to buy it unless they promote the guy as a killer and a risk to Floyd (when he really isnt...sound familiar? lol)
Thats why I said he just made 20 Mill he wont have an issue making money with these guys especially after the sucess of the Mosley PPV.
Floyd fighting Williams, Martinez, and Pavlik doesnt increase his legacy? How?
Instead of saying that Floyd cant enhance his legacy you should be saying if Pac fights any 154 Pounder other then Williams, Martinez or Dzinziruk then hes wasting his time.
He aint ever fighting Williams unless 1 of them drops haymon. There's some kind of law against it. And he's only had 1 fight at 154 you really think with the kind of business mind floyd has he'd take such a stupid risk of fighting at 160 with pavlik or martinez when there's a fight worth much more both business and legacywise right in his own weightclass???
Thats why I said he just made 20 Mill he wont have an issue making money with these guys especially after the sucess of the Mosley PPV.
Floyd fighting Williams, Martinez, and Pavlik doesnt increase his legacy? How?
Instead of saying that Floyd cant enhance his legacy you should be saying if Pac fights any 154 Pounder other then Williams, Martinez or Dzinziruk then hes wasting his time.
you're a dumbass burner. floyd made $30M against marquez, not $20M. check the businessweek 2009 earnings report i posted months ago.
I think Floyd did try to fight Nate Campell, but HBO shot it down.
Nates own advisor said that wasnt true.
Im not talking about talk before they signed to fight Clottey and Mosley Im talking about since then.
You're not hearin what i'm sayin at all. I never said Floyd cant get fights, i never said floyd cant make money.
Im sayin Floyd has made a career out of "smart business decisions". And he has stated that he came out of retirement for "legacy".
Now say he beats mosley as decisively as i think he will....name a fighter not named pacquiao that qualifies for either "smart business decision" or "legacy". There is none. He fights anybody not named Pacquiao and it effectively kills his "money" persona that y'all love so much. Meanwhile Pacquiao fighting at 154 would fit "legacy" legitimately.
Thats why I said he just made 20 Mill he wont have an issue making money with these guys especially after the sucess of the Mosley PPV.
Floyd fighting Williams, Martinez, and Pavlik doesnt increase his legacy? How?
Instead of saying that Floyd cant enhance his legacy you should be saying if Pac fights any 154 Pounder other then Williams, Martinez or Dzinziruk then hes wasting his time.
Huh?
Im not talking about before they signed to fight Clottey and Mosley.
Im talking about NOW.
bitch your idol should not even talk about any other fighter (even pac) because he still has to fight shane on may 1. overlooking an opponent like shane is stupid. pac on the other hand can talk about fighting anyone he wants because he has no scheduled fight yet.
So essentially you are saying the biggest cash cow in the sport wont get fights?
Not possible. He just made 20 Million vs. JMM he wont have a problem getting cake.
Pac just fought Clottey and wants to fight Marg now and neither oe of them do anything for his legacy at all.
Floyd can fight plenty of fighters.
You're not hearin what i'm sayin at all. I never said Floyd cant get fights, i never said floyd cant make money.
Im sayin Floyd has made a career out of "smart business decisions". And he has stated that he came out of retirement for "legacy".
Now say he beats mosley as decisively as i think he will....name a fighter not named pacquiao that qualifies for either "smart business decision" or "legacy". There is none. He fights anybody not named Pacquiao and it effectively kills his "money" persona that y'all love so much. Meanwhile Pacquiao fighting at 154 would fit "legacy" legitimately.
Because Floyd himself has billed himself as the cash cow of boxing and the persona of "if it makes dollars it makes sense". And has already taken harsh criticism of "choosing" opponents. He has also said the reason he came out of his retirement was for "legacy"
He cannot fight anyone but Pacquiao after Mosley. Nobody, and i mean nobody in the 140-154 range but Pacquiao brings anything to the table money or legacywise for floyd.
We dont even know if Bradley is definitively better than Alexander or Malignaggi let alone in the same elite class as Pac or May. He fights anyone from 140 and he takes huge criticism for fighting another smaller man at welterweight.
He could fight Berto since he likes that green belt so much but it effectively kills his "money" mayweather persona since he would be purposely fighting a fighter that has never been on a ppv undercard let alone ppv headliner over a huge money fight.
Fighting any belt holder at 154 wouldnt do anything for Floyd's legacy because he's already gotten a belt from that division and it comes with the same criticism as fighting berto at 147. Meanwhile for Pacquiao to do it would be perfectly legitimate since it would add to his historic weight division belt chase climb.
So essentially you are saying the biggest cash cow in the sport wont get fights?
Not possible. He just made 20 Million vs. JMM he wont have a problem getting cake.
Pac just fought Clottey and wants to fight Marg now and neither oe of them do anything for his legacy at all.
Floyd can fight plenty of fighters.
Because Floyd himself has billed himself as the cash cow of boxing and the persona of "if it makes dollars it makes sense". And has already taken harsh criticism of "choosing" opponents. He has also said the reason he came out of his retirement was for "legacy"
He cannot fight anyone but Pacquiao after Mosley. Nobody, and i mean nobody in the 140-154 range but Pacquiao brings anything to the table money or legacywise for floyd.
We dont even know if Bradley is definitively better than Alexander or Malignaggi let alone in the same elite class as Pac or May. He fights anyone from 140 and he takes huge criticism for fighting another smaller man at welterweight.
He could fight Berto since he likes that green belt so much but it effectively kills his "money" mayweather persona since he would be purposely fighting a fighter that has never been on a ppv undercard let alone ppv headliner over a huge money fight.
Fighting any belt holder at 154 wouldnt do anything for Floyd's legacy because he's already gotten a belt from that division and it comes with the same criticism as fighting berto at 147. Meanwhile for Pacquiao to do it would be perfectly legitimate since it would add to his historic weight division belt chase climb.
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That makes no sense why wouldn't Floyd just fight any Manny's other "options" and if people would revolt against Floyd taking those fight why would Manny get a Pass there both in the same division
Because Floyd himself has billed himself as the cash cow of boxing and the persona of "if it makes dollars it makes sense". And has already taken harsh criticism of "choosing" opponents. He has also said the reason he came out of his retirement was for "legacy"
He cannot fight anyone but Pacquiao after Mosley. Nobody, and i mean nobody in the 140-154 range but Pacquiao brings anything to the table money or legacywise for floyd.
We dont even know if Bradley is definitively better than Alexander or Malignaggi let alone in the same elite class as Pac or May. He fights anyone from 140 and he takes huge criticism for fighting another smaller man at welterweight.
He could fight Berto since he likes that green belt so much but it effectively kills his "money" mayweather persona since he would be purposely fighting a fighter that has never been on a ppv undercard let alone ppv headliner over a huge money fight.
Fighting any belt holder at 154 wouldnt do anything for Floyd's legacy because he's already gotten a belt from that division and it comes with the same criticism as fighting berto at 147. Meanwhile for Pacquiao to do it would be perfectly legitimate since it would add to his historic weight division belt chase climb.