FFS! Does anyone have common sense - RE: Haye ducked both Klits

I think the fight could happen next, Wlad has a mandatory in Povetkin but he doesnt seem like he want to fight Wlad next so Wlad is free to fight Haye next, The only problem is see would be the Valuev who has a rematch clause, If Haye could bargain or somehow pay Valuev off then i think the Wlad fight would happen next. Yeah true.

Well Wlad is fighting soon, and they don't reckon Haye will fight til October/November time. I think the fight could happen next, Wlad has a mandatory in Povetkin but he doesnt seem like he want to fight Wlad next so Wlad is free to fight Haye next, The only problem is see would be the Valuev who has a rematch clause, If Haye could bargain or somehow pay Valuev off then i think the Wlad fight would happen next.

I couldn't agree more. It shocks me how many people there are on this board with, barely, half a brain cell. This is exactly what Haye wanted. Every other fighter does what they can to get a Klitschko fight. It's their big pay day and is what all the HW fighters are striving for. Yet Haye, who by the haters own admission hasn't done anything at HW, has completely turned the tables within the space of a year, whereby a Klitschko is now having videos made calling Haye out for a fight. Get it? A man who has done little at HW has made Wlad write a script and have a video made calling him out. I'm not some Haye-lover or Klit-hater. I actually think Wlad wins unless Haye goes all out within the first few rounds and is able to find something before Wlad can settle. Otherwise, Wlad wins. But taking digs at Haye for producing this situation is just plain stupid. The guy should be a promoter when he retires for sure. Great post mate :boxing:

How about Wlad offers him a deal without all the rematches and without having to fight to Vitali and maybe wed see it.

Hay said after the Ruiz fight he wants both brothers. If it doesn't happen in the next 12months then yeah I'll agree he is ducking him.That's what people were saying before the Valuev fight: "Ok, after Haye beats Valuev he will surely fight the Klits immediately, he just wants the belt to get more bargaining power for negotiations". That's what the Haye fans were saying on the message boards day in day out. That was before November 2009. Here we are half a year later and Haye still has made NO MENTION OF FIGHTING THE KLITS. He's still up to his old antics of broken promises and delaying things as long as possible. He's once again hiding behind contracts and BS excuses. Now we should give him another 12 months grace period? Why not 24 months?

I agree 100% with the TS. The level of delusion amongst so many people on this board is ridiculous. David made a wise business decision in fighting Valuev. He earned himself a sizeable bargaining chip first instead of risking his life/health in the ring for free. Who in their right mind would fight for free?

All i hear is how Haye bitched out/ ran scared and got out of fighting wlad and vitali due to fear. Now lets break it down nice and easy for klit nut huggers: - Haye was due to fight wlad in June last year, he had signed a deal with Setanta but when the fight got closer Setanta went bust ... which means Haye gets NO MONEY! So he has 2 options: 1) fight wlad for FREE / NO MONEY OR 2) pull out of the fight and postpone the fight and possibly for a bigger purse So Haye then went for Vitali as skysports were interested (never signed a contract tho) but after given sh1tty terms -e.g 2 rematch clauses + bad purse split- he realised if he beat valuex and became world champion, he would be able to get a better cut of the purse and have more say over the terms of the contract. As you can see Haye made he best and most lucrative choice. So theres only one reason why posters think Haye ducked both klitschkos because he's 'running scared': 1) They are Klitschko but huggers and need some excuses / reasons to criticize Haye. Do the Haye haters not understand why Haye didnt fight either klitschko now? Or are you gonna ignore what i clearly said and just say he is terrified of K2?? Try answering with a logical brain. Thanks See 9:08 where adam booth explains why the vitali fight fell apart: I couldn't agree more. It shocks me how many people there are on this board with, barely, half a brain cell. This is exactly what Haye wanted. Every other fighter does what they can to get a Klitschko fight. It's their big pay day and is what all the HW fighters are striving for. Yet Haye, who by the haters own admission hasn't done anything at HW, has completely turned the tables within the space of a year, whereby a Klitschko is now having videos made calling Haye out for a fight. Get it? A man who has done little at HW has made Wlad write a script and have a video made calling him out. I'm not some Haye-lover or Klit-hater. I actually think Wlad wins unless Haye goes all out within the first few rounds and is able to find something before Wlad can settle. Otherwise, Wlad wins. But taking digs at Haye for producing this situation is just plain stupid. The guy should be a promoter when he retires for sure.

12 Months? How about now? Atleast you will agree with 12 months. Always something. Well Wlad is fighting soon, and they don't reckon Haye will fight til October/November time.

What gets me more than anything, when this fight is signed in a week or two, the nobheads talking all their baseless bullshit just go about their business on here like they didn't just talk all this shit with no weight to it at all. People need to take responsibility for their actions on here. No, not me atleast. If David Haye signs this as his next fight i will support him in every future fight.

What gets me more than anything, when this fight is signed in a week or two, the nobheads talking all their baseless bullshit just go about their business on here like they didn't just talk all this shit with no weight to it at all. People need to take responsibility for their actions on here.

Hay said after the Ruiz fight he wants both brothers. If it doesn't happen in the next 12months then yeah I'll agree he is ducking him. 12 Months? How about now? Atleast you will agree with 12 months. Always something.

As David Haye told Wladimir himself. Stop hiding behind all these bums, these managers. If David Haye does not fight Wladimir this time, atleast agree he is ducking. But oh wait. Hes got 2 more mandatories first. Pfff. Hay said after the Ruiz fight he wants both brothers. If it doesn't happen in the next 12months then yeah I'll agree he is ducking him.

I don't understand why he is bitching out myself. His manager said he deserves a 50/50 split and said it in jest that the brrothers should fight each other. As David Haye told Wladimir himself. Stop hiding behind all these bums, these managers. If David Haye does not fight Wladimir this time, atleast agree he is ducking. But oh wait. Hes got 2 more mandatories first. Pfff.

And whyyyy is he bitching out this time around? Another network going bust? I don't understand why he is bitching out myself. His manager said he deserves a 50/50 split and said it in jest that the brrothers should fight each other.

And whyyyy is he bitching out this time around? Another network going bust?

Only an idiot would expect him to fight for free in June when setanta went bust!!! 100% agreed. Jealousy is a motherfucckkaaaaa!!!!

Only an idiot would expect him to fight for free in June when setanta went bust!!! welcome to boxing scene...

Only an idiot would expect him to fight for free in June when setanta went bust!!!

All i hear is how Haye bitched out/ ran scared and got out of fighting wlad and vitali due to fear. Now lets break it down nice and easy for klit nut huggers: - Haye was due to fight wlad in June last year, he had signed a deal with Setanta but when the fight got closer Setanta went bust ... which means Haye gets NO MONEY! So he has 2 options: 1) fight wlad for FREE / NO MONEY OR 2) pull out of the fight and postpone the fight and possibly for a bigger purse So Haye then went for Vitali as skysports were interested (never signed a contract tho) but after given sh1tty terms -e.g 2 rematch clauses + bad purse split- he realised if he beat valuex and became world champion, he would be able to get a better cut of the purse and have more say over the terms of the contract. As you can see Haye made he best and most lucrative choice. So theres only one reason why posters think Haye ducked both klitschkos because he's 'running scared': 1) They are Klitschko but huggers and need some excuses / reasons to criticize Haye. Do the Haye haters not understand why Haye didnt fight either klitschko now? Or are you gonna ignore what i clearly said and just say he is terrified of K2?? Try answering with a logical brain. Thanks See 9:08 where adam booth explains why the vitali fight fell apart: blah blah more excuses. I didn't even bother reading your cry baby post trying to cover David haye's coward pussy tracks. Just STOP the whole world recognizes what kind of sad coward Haye is and how he bitched out twice from both Klitschkos. Move on /thread

Your points are bullshit. If Haye beat Wlad he would have been the WBO/IBF Champion for his rematch with Wlad and would have therefore gotten the champion's share of a 20 million dollar purse for what would have been the most anticipated Heavyweight Rematch in more than 10 years. Obviously he had zero faith in himself winning the fight because if he truly believed in himself he would have taken short money for the first fight knowing that if he won the rematch would make him rich beyond his wildest dreams. Let's do some math: Say Haye only made 1 million for the first fight and WON! Then he would make around 12-13 million for the rematch. 13 million + 1 million = 14 million Now compare that to what he made for the 2 fights against Valuev and Ruiz. Haye just had no faith in himself, he knew he would lose and he used the rematch clauses as an excuse even though everyone in the world knows that he would want to fight nobody besides Vitali should he beat Wlad or vice versa. this is bullshit, he effectively fights for free because he might make lots of money in the future if he wins? Tell me the name of some boxers who have fought for free because they might make lots of money in the future if they win... Let me ask you this, if the klits were the ones who wanted the fight and haye was being more of a bitch why did they offer him such poor contracts?