Taken from Ryan Manquinana's interview with Roach.
RM : The two boxing greats who Mannys been compared to as of late, due to his success in moving up multiple weight classes are Roberto Duran and Pernell Whitaker. How do you think Manny would match up with them at 135?
FR : Its tough to compare eras, of course. Pernell was a great boxer, and Manny has trouble with the counter-punching style a little bit, but I dont think Pernell could stand the pressure. With Duran, I think Manny could beat him. Duran was a ballsy guy; he liked to fight, but, you know, No Más made me wonder if he had any quit in him. In the past, at , I picked Duran to win, but this time I think Manny would win by decision now.
Freddie sure does rate his boy highly! thoughts ..?
Roach one day: Pacquiao will take Cotto out in a couple of rounds.
Roach later on: I don't think we'll take out Cotto, we'll probably win a decision.
Roach one day: Mayweather will be an easy fight for us.
Roach another day: Manny will have to fight a perfect fight to beat Floyd.
Roach on 24/7: They drained Oscar.
Roach on 24/7: For a world champion, Ricky Hatton was not very good.
Roach later on: Why do people criticize Manny's victories?
Roach early in negotiations: Manny will take any test you give him.
Roach later on: Blood tests are fine as long as not within a couple days.
Roach recently: There will be no extra drug testing.
freddie roach said in a previous interview on espn friday night fights that duran would beat manny. this is all talk and nothing more.
HA! Thats the interview I saw! I think he's finally losing it upstairs.
i dont know if someone posted this,but roach contradics himself all the time.ive heard him say in the past that manny couldnt beat duran,and now he can?
with all due respect to him,manny loses to both of them
yea pac is my favorite fighter, but i still see his flaws. I know pac can lose a fight to one of the greats and even floyd. i recognize floyds skills as well, just want to see the fight happen. floyd vs pac is 50/50 for me.. offense/defense
it's just the downplaying of pacmans achievements is crazy. after every fighter there are excuses. who else is left for him to fight? you got people saying he should fight p will? p wills height and reach would be ridiculous, not saying manny doesn't have a chance, but i would not favor him. any fighter can lose like all the ATG have done.. have LOSSES on their record.
funny then you must think Freddie Roach is a pile of crap by him downplaying Pac opponents if anybody is downplaying Pac achievements its Freddie Roach his f**ken trainer you wacko just like 97ruff told Freddie Roach to his on f**ken face your a great match maker and what did Freddie Roach do he just smile meaning he does not want to put Pac in with someone who really has a shot at beating him he waits into the fighters are shot or trys to weight drain them or stays far away from fighter who have good footwork
why the fukk you think he lost to tito?...lol.. and i think chavez beat his ass tbh ....remind me how anyone owned me again!...you could never owned me, go get help if you want....lol
please dont talk nonsense...
This is the madness I'm talking about.
You got to remember that a lot of these bloggers never seen these guys fight. They have seen a fight of them here and there but didn't followed them and saw the fight when it had significance. Alot of ppl go to BoxRec and just see names and numbers
yea pac is my favorite fighter, but i still see his flaws. I know pac can lose a fight to one of the greats and even floyd. i recognize floyds skills as well, just want to see the fight happen. floyd vs pac is 50/50 for me.. offense/defense
it's just the downplaying of pacmans achievements is crazy. after every fighter there are excuses. who else is left for him to fight? you got people saying he should fight p will? p wills height and reach would be ridiculous, not saying manny doesn't have a chance, but i would not favor him. any fighter can lose like all the ATG have done.. have LOSSES on their record.
Most ATG's don't have loses to no name journeymen. Just thought I'd throw that in there...
Btw, people were claiming Floyd ducked Pwill not to long ago. So much for that ridiculous height and reach advantage.
Manny is greater than duran in my book. If Manny beats Floyd then hes top 5 all time. If Floyd beat Manny EASY then talks of him being the greatest will reach an all time high!
This is the madness I'm talking about.
I like Pac but when I write anything negative I'm classified as a hater or a Flomo (don't like Floyd but I recognize his skills). To say flat out that he would beat either these guys is not a good statemen given the history of all 3 of these fighters. All of them in peek form would give problems to each other and you never know how would they do till they got into the right.
yea pac is my favorite fighter, but i still see his flaws. I know pac can lose a fight to one of the greats and even floyd. i recognize floyds skills as well, just want to see the fight happen. floyd vs pac is 50/50 for me.. offense/defense
it's just the downplaying of pacmans achievements is crazy. after every fighter there are excuses. who else is left for him to fight? you got people saying he should fight p will? p wills height and reach would be ridiculous, not saying manny doesn't have a chance, but i would not favor him. any fighter can lose like all the ATG have done.. have LOSSES on their record.
Manny is greater than duran in my book. If Manny beats Floyd then hes top 5 all time. If Floyd beat Manny EASY then talks of him being the greatest will reach an all time high!
If Manny actually fights and beats the winner of Mosely Floyd, then Roach is absolutely right.
fact is pacman won the 2nd fight.. lol. doesnt matter who thought what. manny won the second fight officially.
ducked raheem and guzman?! lol.. pacman ducking anybody is ridiculous.. he moves up to face the likes of oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey and he's ducking raheem and guzman? lol
sasakul is slick.. and pac's old trainer is probably mad he's not the one behind pacquaio's historic run.. lol
mosley was too good of a fighter before roach saw how well pacquaio fought cotto and clottey..
agree to disagree.. last post regarding this topic.. this back and forth won't end..
The only slick fighter that comes to my mind at the time the Pac could had fought was Casamayor. The timing for other slick fighters wasn't there or an acclaim to fight Casamayor
fact is pacman won the 2nd fight.. lol. doesnt matter who thought what. manny won the second fight officially.
ducked raheem and guzman?! lol.. pacman ducking anybody is ridiculous.. he moves up to face the likes of oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey and he's ducking raheem and guzman? lol
sasakul is slick.. and pac's old trainer is probably mad he's not the one behind pacquaio's historic run.. lol
mosley was too good of a fighter before roach saw how well pacquaio fought cotto and clottey..
agree to disagree.. last post regarding this topic.. this back and forth won't end..
So the opinions of boxing analyst don't matter when it fits your agenda, but when their opinions do, you suddenly agree with them? Hypocrisy at it's finest. A few moments ago, it was "well analyst say this and that, haha".
He did duck Raheem and Guzman. In fact, I believe Guzman wrote an open letter to Pac asking for a fight and Pac refused to step in the ring with him. We all know the story of Raheem. Morales beats down Pac, Raheem beats down Morales. Who's Pac fight? The man coming off an L, and not the man that dominated the man with the L ,11 out of 12 rounds.
Pac also ducked Mosely, who according to Roach, "was too good a fighter for Pac". And Pac ducked Mayweather.
Why would he be mad?
It wont end because you're talking out your ass. You don't know what you're talking about.
Taken from Ryan Manquinana's interview with Roach.
RM : The two boxing greats who Mannys been compared to as of late, due to his success in moving up multiple weight classes are Roberto Duran and Pernell Whitaker. How do you think Manny would match up with them at 135?
FR : Its tough to compare eras, of course. Pernell was a great boxer, and Manny has trouble with the counter-punching style a little bit, but I dont think Pernell could stand the pressure. With Duran, I think Manny could beat him. Duran was a ballsy guy; he liked to fight, but, you know, No Más made me wonder if he had any quit in him. In the past, at , I picked Duran to win, but this time I think Manny would win by decision now.
Freddie sure does rate his boy highly! thoughts ..?
This is more proof that Freddie Roach lives in the state of delusion. Duran would stand toe-to-toe and slug it out with Pac and knock him out cold. Sweet Pea Whitaker would make Pac look more like a fool than Mayweather would.
I like Pac but when I write anything negative I'm classified as a hater or a Flomo (don't like Floyd but I recognize his skills). To say flat out that he would beat either these guys is not a good statement given the history of all 3 of these fighters. All of them in peek form would give problems to each other and you never know how would they do till they got into the right.
But he is still so open for right hand counters. Just waiting to se when they will pair him up with a dominant right hand fighter to see how he would cope with it
yes he is open for right counters.. and thats why i give mayweather a chance to beat pacquaio. it seems the only fighter pacquiao will get credit for beating is mayweather. every other fighter in the world.. there are excuses. i want to see floyd and manny.. offense vs defense.
Manny is greater than duran in my book. If Manny beats Floyd then hes top 5 all time. If Floyd beat Manny EASY then talks of him being the greatest will reach an all time high!
Fact is, JMM won more rounds in both fights. Fact is, many of the boxing worlds most established writers and analyst had JMM winning the second fight. Either way, JMM gave Pac a boxing lesson.
JMM, May, Mosely. He ducked Raheem, and Guzman. There's plenty of live opponents Pac hasn't and wont fight.
Who'd Pac fight earlier on in his career that was a slick African American fighter? I'm curious... Because according to trainer of the time, he kept him from just that.
According to Roach, Mosely's too good a fighter for Pac to fight... so, Mosely must be doing something right.
fact is pacman won the 2nd fight.. lol. doesnt matter who thought what. manny won the second fight officially.
ducked raheem and guzman?! lol.. pacman ducking anybody is ridiculous.. he moves up to face the likes of oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey and he's ducking raheem and guzman? lol
sasakul is slick.. and pac's old trainer is probably mad he's not the one behind pacquaio's historic run.. lol
mosley was too good of a fighter before roach saw how well pacquaio fought cotto and clottey..
agree to disagree.. last post regarding this topic.. this back and forth won't end..
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