I was just diggin through Burners thread and there are alot of people who dont think Oscar is an ATG, and I believe that is because people dont like him as much as other fighters and because of his gay attitude. I have been seeing this for years now. If you want to bash on his wins over past it legends, then you must bash on Mayweather's and Pacquiao's because they never beat a prime elite, both of their resumes can be picked on, something can be said about both of their biggest wins. I dont like him, but if people call Barrera and Morales ATG's, then De La Hoya sure as hell is one. Lets treat all fighters equally.
10 belts held in 6 different divisions
Defeated 18 former champions:
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Jesse James Leija
John John Molina
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Miguel Angel Gonzales
Hector Camacho
Arturo Gatti
Javier Castillejo
Fernando Vargas
Luis Ramon Campas
Felix Sturm
Ricardo Mayorga
Steve Forbes
Jimmy Bredahl
You want to take out controversial decisions against Whitaker and Sturm? Then we can only be fair and throw in Trinidad and Mosley 2 in there for Oscar.
I think De La Hoya was a great fighter, An ALL TIME GREAT? Im not sure but he was a beast in his prime. If only he had beaten Mosley, Mayweather and fought Winky Wright. Then he would be a definite ATG
Oscar would have destroyed Winky Wright.
Oscar was eon's above most of his opposition, until he fought Tito, and he dominated him until he tired himself out late and put it on cruise control.
I don't think Mosley is a better fighter than DLH but he beat him.
I think most of the hate is from his good looks. You got haters that are mad because they pay to watch him lose, then he ****s up his opponent while their girl is soakin her panties watching him.
People hated Ray Leonard for the same thing.
Don't hate Oscar cause he's better looking than you. ****ing haters.
I'll co-sign that
I was just diggin through Burners thread and there are alot of people who dont think Oscar is an ATG, and I believe that is because people dont like him as much as other fighters and because of his gay attitude. I have been seeing this for years now. If you want to bash on his wins over past it legends, then you must bash on Mayweather's and Pacquiao's because they never beat a prime elite, both of their resumes can be picked on, something can be said about both of their biggest wins. I dont like him, but if people call Barrera and Morales ATG's, then De La Hoya sure as hell is one. Lets treat all fighters equally.
10 belts held in 6 different divisions
Defeated 18 former champions:
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Rafel Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
Jesse James Leija
John John Molina
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Miguel Angel Gonzales
Hector Camacho
Arturo Gatti
Javier Castillejo
Fernando Vargas
Luis Ramon Campas
Felix Sturm
Ricardo Mayorga
Steve Forbes
Jimmy Bredahl
You want to take out controversial decisions against Whitaker and Sturm? Then we can only be fair and throw in Trinidad and Mosley 2 in there for Oscar.
Co-sign that for sure man!
I want to start seeing people's top 100 ATG lists.
Because I find it hard to believe Oscar not being among the top 100 fighters of all time.
Don't waste your time, almost everyone hates Oscar for no reason, he's definitely an ATG.
LOL... Like I was the only one.
Everyone thought Choogar was gonna walk the plank.
:lol1: Like it excuses you from making that pick because you weren't the only one. A garbage pick is a garbage pick.
You also thought Eddie Chambers was going to "expose" Wladdy.
So your opinion means dick.
If I dig through the threads I'm 100% sure I will find more than one garbage pick from you. Starting with Mosley-Margarito. **** outta here with that.
Yes. Compare Mayweathers resume to Oscars and tell me why Myaweather is an ATG while Oscar isnt? Dont bother bringing in losses because Myaweather never fought a prime Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, or Pacquiao( at a weight he hasnt weighed in 10 years)
Zab Judah fought great fighters. He got his ass kicked each time though. Means jack shit bro.
He failed against the elite.
So yall telling me Oscar is one of the best fighters to ever lace em up?
get the fukk outta here.Yes. Compare Mayweathers resume to Oscars and tell me why Myaweather is an ATG while Oscar isnt? Dont bother bringing in losses because Myaweather never fought a prime Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, or Pacquiao( at a weight he hasnt weighed in 10 years)
debatable. He is a HOFer, but as it was mentioned, he lost his most important fights, and the belt he gained vs sturm was ugly. At the beginning of his career he was matched VERY carefully being pinned vs past their prime old folks. He will be in the list for sure because of his impact to the sport but IMO he shouldn't be in the better half of the list
Your resume consists of your whole career not just your wins but losses too, he lost nearly all of his most important fights.
A very good fighter, yes, HOFer, yes, but among the best to ever lace them up(ATG)? noOscar's 6 losses, I guarantee you i can dig up all the ATG's who had equal or more losses. And they were'nt fighting a light heavy weight or making 145 after not weighing at anything below 146 for 11 years. This is a man who never got dominated except for the 2 fights because of the circumstances.
Bunch of idiots trying to discredit oscars career. Burner is f*cking stupid. I hate ODLH but I'm not blinded by it that I don't recognize what he's achieved.Yup. And how is a 6 division champion not an ATG? 1 of only 2 people to ever do it. If they want to say he really is only a 5 division champ, then that is still damn good along with Leonard, Hagler, and Mayweather. Either way you twist it around his accomplishments are still great.