Double Standard with hitting while an opponent is down.

Hitting a guy when he's down is a very common foul in boxing. Usually refs don't do anything, or just give a warning. Occasionally they take a point away. Usually the only time a fighter is DQ'd or it ends in a no-contest is when the guy who gets hit can't or won't go on. I'm not overly critical of Abraham for what he did. He was frustrated and lost his composure and fukked up. It happens. Lennox Lewis hit Mike Acey three times when he was down and Acey got up. All Lewis got was a warning. Terry Norris hit Joe Walker when he was down and Walker couldn't continue, so Norris got DQ'd. Norris did it against Leonard and got a warning. He did it to Waters and got a point deducted. If Dirrell didn't get so fukked up by that punch (or didn't act, depending on your viewpoint), it would've just been one of many cases where a guy hit a downed opponent and got a warning or point deduction. Good post. But how fair is it? Imagine Dirrell continuing on hurt and ending up being KOed in result of it. How good of a message would that pass? Wouldn't Abraham try that again? Watching it for the 3rd time i really think Dirrell was hurt. At first i thought he was reaching with his glove to check his nose for blood but he wasn't he reached his head and immediately fell down. I hope he's ok. In Vegas Abraham would be a suspended fighter right now.

I can't see what you posted. but my proof is in the fights.. here's one of the ones I mentioned. It's the 3rd KD in the first round. . The pac shot was definetely a foul. It wasn't even mentioned by Cortez so I wonder what would have happened had JMM stayed down. Some other examples here: 1: Cantatore-Jensen This was for the EBU cruiserweight title. Jensen was challenging cantatore on his hometurf in Italy and surprisingly got away with this (0.50): 2: Soto-Lorenzo. Referee Cortez took a terrific beating in the media following this DQ: 3: Kristjansen-Khan Khan the hometown favourite gets away with hitting his opponent despite him being down (5.00)

Roy jones got disqualified for hitting a fighter that went down because of a punch(Not a slip) and RJJ was undefeated and loved by almost everyone, How is that for your double-standard?? Jones DQ was as warranted as Abrahams.. Yeah he went down from a punch but he was down on his knee already and got hit twice again.

I doubt anyone of those times you have mentioned were as egregious as this......here is my proof........where is yours to show it was ever this blatant and they DIDN'T get dq'd?? http://www.********boxing.com/images/004IMG_6970.jpg exactly.....sometimes it is very blatant.......usually if it';s duriong a barrage of punches and the guy is falling all over the ropes it's ok..........but when you hit a guy he slips....you look over him for a second or 2 then unload that is grounds for a DQ.........

I can't see what you posted. but my proof is in the fights.. here's one of the ones I mentioned. It's the 3rd KD in the first round. 2:05 into the video.. first KO.. Cotto is down and Margarito still punches him. and I couldn't find the one where Mayweather did it but it was against Gatti. I believe he did it again as well in the rematch too. I am a cotto fan and when i saw that i was pissed but then i thought well he lost anyways

its not double standard..its all depend on the fighter whether he is able to continue or not.. as stated in earlier post. RJJ was undefeated and people favorite when he got dq... griffin was unable to continue so ref dq him... samething happen to AA and dirrell... AA is not cheater or disgrace ...it just happen

I don't think it is double standards. It depends if the person can continue or not. Tua-Cameron , Tua hit him while he was down. He was not Dq as well because Shane got up.

I can't see what you posted. but my proof is in the fights.. here's one of the ones I mentioned. It's the 3rd KD in the first round. 2:05 into the video.. first KO.. Cotto is down and Margarito still punches him. and I couldn't find the one where Mayweather did it but it was against Gatti. I believe he did it again as well in the rematch too. Mayweather did not hit Gatti when he was down at all. He hit him when he complained to the ref.

I've seen many people get away with it IN FRONT of the referee, Pacquiao, Margarito and Mayweather are some of them. If you are going to DQ someone for doing it, then everyone who does it should be DQ'd. Why is it that some people get a pass and other don't though? For the record, I don't agree with it and DO think Abraham should've been DQ'd, I was rooting for him to win. I'm just saying.. you gonna make a big deal of it when someone else does it, it's bullshit. I was gonna make a point in another thread about marg when he hit cotto when he was clearly down too. It was an awful move by arthur but i think dirrell sold it and abraham suffered a rough DQ.

R U that stupid? Really, Burner STFU. You would take a cock in the ass to defend any african-american fighter. Everybody agrees the DQ was proper, the thing the TS is Talking about is consistancy with the Damn ruling on the fouL!!! I dont care what race a fighter is. Anyone who is not Puerto Rican you dont care for. Last I checked Im actually a fan of AA. So where in my post where I was wrong? Its not up to B-scene posters to yell double standard and cry bloody murder. Its up to the ref. Each ref and each situation is different.

I agree but for me the double standard is when posters start calling for AA to get suspended, or label him a cheater, putting him up there with the likes of Margarito, saying he should be lynched, or that he is a disgrace and etc etc. When those same posters did not call Roy or anybody else who commited the same foul the same name. I think that is where the double standard lies for me. Well that makes sense. Im on record saying AA got frustrated and messed. He shoudlve been DQ'd. But I dont think hes a disgrace. Ima fan of both fighters.

Since when is it up to B-Scene posters? Its up to the ref. Roy Jones got DQ'd and he was an undefeated stud. If Roy can get DQ'd ANYONE can. There is no double standard. I agree but for me the double standard is when posters start calling for AA to get suspended, or label him a cheater, putting him up there with the likes of Margarito, saying he should be lynched, or that he is a disgrace and etc etc. When those same posters did not call Roy or anybody else who commited the same foul the same name. I think that is where the double standard lies for me.

Since when is it up to B-Scene posters? Its up to the ref. Roy Jones got DQ'd and he was an undefeated stud. If Roy can get DQ'd ANYONE can. There is no double standard.

I doubt anyone of those times you have mentioned were as egregious as this......here is my proof........where is yours to show it was ever this blatant and they DIDN'T get dq'd?? http://www.********boxing.com/images/004IMG_6970.jpg I can't see what you posted. but my proof is in the fights.. here's one of the ones I mentioned. It's the 3rd KD in the first round. 2:05 into the video.. first KO.. Cotto is down and Margarito still punches him. and I couldn't find the one where Mayweather did it but it was against Gatti. I believe he did it again as well in the rematch too.

I've seen many people get away with it IN FRONT of the referee, Pacquiao, Margarito and Mayweather are some of them. If you are going to DQ someone for doing it, then everyone who does it should be DQ'd. Why is it that some people get a pass and other don't though? For the record, I don't agree with it and DO think Abraham should've been DQ'd, I was rooting for him to win. I'm just saying.. you gonna make a big deal of it when someone else does it, it's bullshit. The opponents of the other fighters who got away with it didnt flop around on the ground like a fish, they were men and took it like men, not condining it but sometimes late hits and low blows are just part of the game. I saw Bowe walk across the ring and hit someone in the back of the head after the bell had rung, he didnt get DQ'd.

It was a foul either way and the fight could not go on. He was put to sleep and even if you don't think he was he showed signs of being messed up. If that was the effect of the punch that was a devestating blow there was no way he would be allowed to go on anywhere. It is not that big a deal to me in a sence that the right man won and shit happeans.

Roy jones got disqualified for hitting a fighter that went down because of a punch(Not a slip) and RJJ was undefeated and loved by almost everyone, How is that for your double-standard??

Hitting a guy when he's down is a very common foul in boxing. Usually refs don't do anything, or just give a warning. Occasionally they take a point away. Usually the only time a fighter is DQ'd or it ends in a no-contest is when the guy who gets hit can't or won't go on. I'm not overly critical of Abraham for what he did. He was frustrated and lost his composure and fukked up. It happens. Lennox Lewis hit Mike Acey three times when he was down and Acey got up. All Lewis got was a warning. Terry Norris hit Joe Walker when he was down and Walker couldn't continue, so Norris got DQ'd. Norris did it against Leonard and got a warning. He did it to Waters and got a point deducted. If Dirrell didn't get so fukked up by that punch (or didn't act, depending on your viewpoint), it would've just been one of many cases where a guy hit a downed opponent and got a warning or point deduction. Thread Steler= Thread ender. Great post.

because Dirrell was such a bitch and didn't wanna get up.:439: If he got up there wouldn't have been a DQ but maybe a 2 point deduction. Man Abe would have gone crazy if he had 2 points deducted to him and he knew he was losing. Would have been awesome 6 mins or so. Anyway the right man won so whatever.

Hitting a guy when he's down is a very common foul in boxing. Usually refs don't do anything, or just give a warning. Occasionally they take a point away. Usually the only time a fighter is DQ'd or it ends in a no-contest is when the guy who gets hit can't or won't go on. I'm not overly critical of Abraham for what he did. He was frustrated and lost his composure and fukked up. It happens. Lennox Lewis hit Mike Acey three times when he was down and Acey got up. All Lewis got was a warning. Terry Norris hit Joe Walker when he was down and Walker couldn't continue, so Norris got DQ'd. Norris did it against Leonard and got a warning. He did it to Waters and got a point deducted. If Dirrell didn't get so fukked up by that punch (or didn't act, depending on your viewpoint), it would've just been one of many cases where a guy hit a downed opponent and got a warning or point deduction. Excellent post :fing02: