Lucian Bute isn't the best super middleweight

He might not be the best but I give him a shot to beat any SMW any giving night

Bute should have been in the supersix in the first place.

bute would schooll any of the super six............ Elaborate.....Ward? Dirrell? AA?

bute would schooll any of the super six............ Butes punching power and accuracy is pretty sick these days, but who knows... Andrade is a fighter who comes straight forward and so is Zuniga. So, I don't know what to take out of those fights. Can Bute hurt a mover like Ward or Dirrell? How would he perform against them? I'm actually wanting this tourney to end soon for the fact I want to see Bute against some of these fighters. Bute seems like a boxer puncher so thats exciting to see that if its the case or maybe its the opponents infront of him making him look that good... Will find out sooner or later...

It doesn't even have to be until after the tournament. As of now his best wins are: Bika, Andrade, and let's assume he beats Miranda. Who's he going to fight that's worth a damn after that considering all the top fighters are locked up in the Super Six? If Ward defeats Green and Dirrell he'll have already surpassed Bute in terms of resume. In fact you probably make a case for Ward if he just beats Green in his next fight.

What is his body of work? Needing 16 rounds vs. Andrade, the guy that Kessler shutout. Let's not forget he should have been KO'd in the 12th round of their first fight. Zuniga? The guy Pavlik KO'd at MW? Joppy? The guy Trinidad KO'd 50 years ago? I give him credit for the Bika win and the Andrade KO. Froch's resume of Taylor, Dirrell(even though he should have lost that fight), and Pascal is light years ahead of Bute. Ward's resume of Kessler and Miranda is also ahead of Bute. I respect your opinion, but if you try to discredit Bute's win, I can do the same for Froch and Ward... Froch won against a shot Taylor who had two rough fights against Hopkins, who had been knocked out against Pavlik and lost another 12 rounders against Pavlik. Let's not forget that one point in the fight Froch was almost knocked out and if Taylor would have survived, the judges had him winner. Now, Ward fought Miranda who had been knocked out by Abraham and Pavlik at 165 and 160. And I remember Ward running away from the 10th to 12th round. He just ran away sometimes throwing jabs. I think that Bute just fight Miranda for a tune-up fight before Pavlik or MAYBE Dawson. Also, Andrade would give Froch a lot of trouble, and I've never seen Ward with a guy who gives A LOT of pressure. I don't think he has the power to trouble Andrade. Even if I see Ward winning a wide UD, I give Andrade a chance at beating him.

Most fighters in the super six have a better resume than Bute so how is he number one?

:rofl: I'd love for you to explain to me why you rank Bute #1. I think overall he has the best body of work resume of anybody at 168. if he doesn't tell me who does?

So now people think it's Bute faults that he's not in the tournament. And lol at that one thread of where idiots are picking Dirrell to beat him.

As of right now Bute is and should be ranked #1 at 168. However, the winner of the Super 6 could be ranked #1 at 168. But, the super will end next year and a lot of stuff could happen till then but as of right now I rank Bute #1.

^^Co-sign. It's going to be make or break time for Bute pretty soon. He's either going to step up the competition or become the Khan of the SMW division..lol

I just hope the Super Six winner isn't shot by the time they face Bute. I can definitely see that happening, especially with big punchers like Froch and Abraham in there...

Butes going to have to fight Ward or Dirrell sooner or later. I'm not picking a winner yet, I need to see more from Bute. Bute definitely has the pop and he is a boxer. He could very will stop some of these boxers... But as I said I need to see Butes performance against a faded Miranda... If he has a hard time with a faded Miranda, then I'm going to have to say Ward and Dirrell will man-handle him. Miranda is nothing but a gate-keeper, but one who should not cause too many problems after Pavlik brutally KO'D him. Abraham easily had his way with Miranda and so did Ward.

I've been seeing a lot of posts saying that Lucian is the best in the division so the tournament has no point. Who has Bute beat in that division that can make you say he's #1? Look at the super six, The best ones from the division are all fighting each other! Whoever comes out winning the tourney should be considered #1 so please stop with this Lucian is number one crap. He should get a shot at the winner of the tournament of course, But he's still not the reigning king at super middleweight. BTW, Americans are going to own that division!:usa: I agree, that the winner of the Super Six should be called the best super middleweight, but I do think also that once the tournament is over, Bute should fight the winner of this competition. Here's my thoughts on the competition right now. Bute vs Green or Taylor = Bute by KO,TKO Bute vs Froch= Bute by KO,TKO Bute vs Dirrell= Bute by UD but could go either way Bute vs Abraham= Bute by UD, Abraham doesn't apply enough pressure and he's not fast enough. Bute vs Ward and Kessler (I'm confident and both fight, but I think that those two guys could be the biggest threat to my boy Bute) Meanwhile, Bute will fight Pavlik if both guys can win their next bout.