Actually this was Abraham 2nd lost...

Yea... because it had nothing to do with the location right? Well state that then. Say Miranda lost because of Germany's biased jugdes. Don't say he lost because of the ref's deductions because he didn't.

Miranda was losing on points and couldn't outpoint a guy with a broken-jaw. :rofl: limited fighters....

Give Miranda his points back and he still loses an MD. 114-114, 115-114, 116-114 Stating that has nothing to do with winning/losing, you can't use that.Yea... because it had nothing to do with the location right?

Even with the point deductions I still had Abraham barely taking it. If you wanna cry about something than Neumann's obvious bias should be the reason not the decision. Also LOL at the ''alleged headbutt''.That was as intentional as can be.

Randy Neumann had to be on the take. I've never seen anyone deduct points like that in my life. Shit was surreal. I'm surprised Miranda didn't kick him in the nuts. Yeah the referee there was horrible, but Miranda did hit him with a nasty headbutt.

The thing that annoys me the most is AA's bitchiness in the ring. You hear all this talk about him being a warrior but the dude can be a straight up bitch; constantly complaining to the ref about being hit low; when he's actually being hit to the body. That is something that really disgusted me about the dude. The sad part is, he neutralized Taylor's body attack by doing that. Anyway, as for the topic, I also had Miranda winning the 1st fight.

I had Abrahamm winning that fight. Very close though. Also I will tell you why it was close. HIS ****ING FACE WAS DANGLING ABOUT.

I don't understand how any sane doctor allows a fighter to continue a fight with a broke jaw. They stopped Corrales-Casamayor because of cuts in Corrales mouth. CUTS. But a broken a jaw? Stig niel ZIS IS GERMANY. Ali-Norton and Abraham-Miranda should be proof that fights shouldn't be stopped because of it. If they can continue, let them. Fights are stopped too soon these days, this is boxing, shit like this will happen. You can't go stopping fights just because they have a hair out of place. If they want to continue, let them. The only time you should intervene is when they are smashed from their senses.

I had Abraham winning pretty comfortably

...Edison Miranda went to Abraham's backyard and he broke AA's jaw in the fourth round and the fight wasn't stop! Instead Miranda was deducted two points in the fifth round for an alledge headbutt. then he was also deducted two points in the seventh round and one point in the eleventh. Look at the scorecards and you too would say -"WTF?"114-109, 115-109, 116-109 Give Miranda his points back and he still loses an MD. 114-114, 115-114, 116-114 Stating that has nothing to do with winning/losing, you can't use that.

I thought Miranda won the 1st fight too without all the bias shit from the ref. But AA did clean up the mess in their rematch.

no, it was his first loss.

...Edison Miranda went to Abraham's backyard and he broke AA's jaw in the fourth round and the fight wasn't stop! Instead Miranda was deducted two points in the fifth round for an alledge headbutt. then he was also deducted two points in the seventh round and one point in the eleventh. Look at the scorecards and you too would say -"WTF?"114-109, 115-109, 116-109 Yep, and people called Miranda a dirty cheating bastard. **** that. Abraham is a crybaby and the dirty fighter. He deserved this loss and took a beating getting there. Eat shit Wilfred Sauerland. You deserve this more than anyone!