Freddie Roach: "I'd take the tests" on ESPN Rome.

Manny beats that version of Floyd way too bulky imo. He needs to return to the form he showed against Hatton. Floyd Vs JMM would murder the version of Manny that Clottey saw he was slow as **** against a guy that was standing still and not allowed to punch back.

Too bad Roach doesnt speak for Pacquiao and vice versa. Roach is only important to Pac when they're in the gym and in the ring. Sad, but true.

thats not what I stated Sorry that weren't supposed to be an accusation or anythin I was just curious about what the dude was sayin...check your pm

thats not what I stated

oooooh he is using my convos with people and this thread as sort of contradiction of things ah okay well yeah maybe but I think I did stake my reputation as an employee of BScene, did show that it was indeed discussed before Sr mentioned it etc etc. so I am fine with that but if you want to follow me around like some lil puppy go right ahead Someone said you had a source that told you something about Manny doing something dodgy...is that true? I don't think it was this thread but another one on the front page (I had like 10 threads open at once so I got confused sorry) He defo said Eaner said somethin about Manny's training partners or something

oooooh he is using my convos with people and this thread as sort of contradiction of things ah okay well yeah maybe but I think I did stake my reputation as an employee of BScene, did show that it was indeed discussed before Sr mentioned it etc etc. so I am fine with that but if you want to follow me around like some lil puppy go right ahead

Posted this on the other thread: Quote: Originally Posted by Tamis_Siensya When i saw this thread I thought "Pac will be nailed for not coordinating with his team" on these kinda interviews, which will be bad for him with everything that's happening. Then i listened to the interview, and clearly Freddie's speaking for HIMSELF. I don't get why people here are quick to surmise and conclude that Pacquiao this Pacquiao that heheheh. Clearly unreasonable Pacfanatics have no rebuttal with this. But people without sense and comprehension are totally missing out that Freddie's speaking his own mind, IF IT WAS HIM he would take it for the money, but he's not Pacquiao, who for some reason say his principle is better than $40M coz he don't need money. Yeah yeah he's Pac's trainer but can't he be asked a question about passing a $40M test and peeps are quick to attribute the answer to Pac? Manny's got no way outta this if i was to be asked. He can't comprehend his real utterings and feelings in english that's why, then you get your people talking they represent you indirectly and when they comment for themselves its somehow attributed to him too. The price to pay for being Manny Pacquiao Oh shut up. What is so difficult to understand about: "I'm willing to take the test as long as it's not the day before the fight?"

huh? you on my jock today or something?

The version of Manny that fought Cotto, Hatton, and Clottey gets KO'd by Mayweather IMO. Another fantasy victory for Floyd

If thats your mentality, then you obviously have no principles in your life. Do you know what the word means? A principle is a principle regardless - period. YOU AMERCIAN'S ARE SO ****ING STUPID!!! Where are you from, Jonesy?

Why would he give into a 24 day cut off when numerous drug officials have come out and said that 24 days is time enough to cycle? A 24 day cutoff would make the test meaningless. I would believe it, and it has nothing to do with anything the Mayweathers have said. My belief is based off Pacs shoddy actions and continuous lies and contradictions. I don't, but regardless, what he's done has proven itself great for boxing.Yeah, well, is he really that scared of Pac? I don't have anything more for you. If you believe Pac is using peds and would take risk in hiding it in an event as big as this, then there's no word to describe you. Again, I hope Pac announces he will give in to the requests before the May vs Mosley fight. Dude, I guarantee you that Floyd would bring up how he beat Pac in PPV numbers and would not give in to a 50/50 split next time. (I'm hoping Ronnie Natanielz relay this to Pac.)

As a Pac fan I would have hoped that Pac took the tests. (I've said this numerous times.) How many Floyd fans would say Floyd should have give in to the 24 days cutoff? Or just went on to the current rules. None. At the end of the day, who would believe Pac is on steroids, anyway. Or FM saying he wants to clean up boxing. Who are we kidding? Pac's mistake was to make excuses. He didn't have to. If he was pissed because of the nasty accusations against him, then he should have simply said he wants an apology in exchange for the OST demands. Why would he give into a 24 day cut off when numerous drug officials have come out and said that 24 days is time enough to cycle? A 24 day cutoff would make the test meaningless. I would believe it, and it has nothing to do with anything the Mayweathers have said. My belief is based off Pacs shoddy actions and continuous lies and contradictions. I don't, but regardless, what he's done has proven itself great for boxing.

Manny beats that version of Floyd way too bulky imo. He needs to return to the form he showed against Hatton. wtf are you talking about?! That Floyd was actually better than the one that fought Hatton defensively... Different fights, hard to compare, i KNOW. But Floyd was also coming off a 1 year retirement, his fight with Mosley will say more. I'm sure if Floyd is visibly slipping, Manny will take the random testing. Not that he's a coward but that's how it goes in boxing, Manny is way more afraid to lose than Floyd is, because he knows prime for prime, they aren't even close in skills. Clottey triple uppercut Manny, Clottey! It wasn't no counter-punch, right between his guard, that's how good of a defense Manny has.

oh shiet!! if manny agree to the tests PPV buys will be floyd's next excuse!! TRUE STORY!!

As a Pac fan I would have hoped that Pac took the tests. (I've said this numerous times.) How many Floyd fans would say Floyd should have give in to the 24 days cutoff? Or just went on to the current rules. None. At the end of the day, who would believe Pac is on steroids, anyway. Or FM saying he wants to clean up boxing. Who are we kidding? Pac's mistake was to make excuses. He didn't have to. If he was pissed because of the nasty accusations against him, then he should have simply said he wants an apology in exchange for the OST demands.

it's been a while since i've been on here---but not too much has changed---manny will still be dominated by floyd and manny ducked the fight---and freddie knows it---jim rome knows it also---

Cmon Freddie get this fight done.

I think the Floyd that fought Hatton beats Manny, but I also think that Manny beats the Floyd that fought JMM. Too flat footed, didnt use the right hand enough and was relying on the left hook too much imo. He did that to JMM because he knew JMM couldn't touch him. At times in the fight, he showed how great his footwork STILL is. The version of Manny that fought Cotto, Hatton, and Clottey gets KO'd by Mayweather IMO.

Are you that stupid? He never said he was afraid of needles. He has tattoos. He doesn't like blood being taken close to the fight because he felt it had something to do with his loss against Morales. And I think that is stupid but its not him being afraid of needles. And he should realize that it was probably him wearing the winning gloves and not a stupid blood test. Or having an off night or something. Do your research before you start debating. Pacs first excuse was that he was afraid of needles. Well that may not have been his first excuse, but it was one of the early ones.

You have got to ask yourself a question, though? How can the supposedly P4P4P champion who has been walking through opponents for four consecutive years not be ready for a guy who spent two years in retirement and has fought once in the last three years? I agree that they turned the fight down because he was not ready. But fact that he needed 8 or 9 months and a tuneup first to prepare tells me that Freddie Roach knows that Pac is not as good as his hype. ofc he does, especially since he got the good gameplan to take mayweather out... pac is just a beast n roach has been teaching him how to box in the last few years but still need time to get him enough skills to be ready for mayweather (ready for a sure win we talking about cause roach aint gonna take the fight if he got the slightest doubt about pacs victory)