Will there ever be a dynamic, skilled and athletic Heavyweight like Ali again?

Wlad is skilled and athletic But hes no Ali by any stretch of the imagination. Two completely different level of fighters. I'd say different KIND of fighters. Both are/were very good in the ring. Ali was just more dynamic and entertaining, in and out of the ring. The level of domination of the HW division is similar, or even better by the Klitschkos. Even if the HW Top10 behind the Klitschkos is not as good as it was in Ali's time, they rule the division in a way only a hand full of ATGs did before.

You mean watching the Klits? haha that zojo guy is an idiot

I agree with you there, the whole robotic european thing is just a stereotype americans have from watching too much rocky. You mean watching the Klits?

Whats wrong with Wladimirs athletic ability? :dunno: Probably wont happen for a long time. Most superathletic big guys pick other sports than boxing nowadays.

im guessing you think people are psychics nowadays? lol dumb@ss question

How about you stop trolling? I don't troll.... EVER.

once in a lifetime imo like roy jones,tyson etc

I'm sick of this NFL/NBA excuse. It's just as logical (more so, considering the vastly larger and more varied talent pool) to say that the next great heavyweight is playing soccer somewhere. Look at the number of top kickboxers who were failed soccer players, Aerts, Kaman, CroCop, Bonjasky. Or what about tennis? Loads of massive athletic guys there. And while we're on the subject of big money sports, why not golf? There's gotta be a few more Corrie Sanders like beasts putting about on the green... As for Wlad, he's athletic and extremely skilled. Dynamic? Not sure what you mean, but he's shown the ability to beat opponents of many different styles, sizes and attributes. He's certainly not robotic, as is constantly talked about here. If he was, someone would have figured him out now. I agree with you there, the whole robotic european thing is just a stereotype americans have from watching too much rocky.

:sigh1: haahahahaah Great input

I'm sick of this NFL/NBA excuse. It's just as logical (more so, considering the vastly larger and more varied talent pool) to say that the next great heavyweight is playing soccer somewhere. Look at the number of top kickboxers who were failed soccer players, Aerts, Kaman, CroCop, Bonjasky. Or what about tennis? Loads of massive athletic guys there. And while we're on the subject of big money sports, why not golf? There's gotta be a few more Corrie Sanders like beasts putting about on the green... As for Wlad, he's athletic and extremely skilled. Dynamic? Not sure what you mean, but he's shown the ability to beat opponents of many different styles, sizes and attributes. He's certainly not robotic, as is constantly talked about here. If he was, someone would have figured him out now. :sigh1: haahahahaah

I'm sick of this NFL/NBA excuse. It's just as logical (more so, considering the vastly larger and more varied talent pool) to say that the next great heavyweight is playing soccer somewhere. Look at the number of top kickboxers who were failed soccer players, Aerts, Kaman, CroCop, Bonjasky. Or what about tennis? Loads of massive athletic guys there. And while we're on the subject of big money sports, why not golf? There's gotta be a few more Corrie Sanders like beasts putting about on the green... As for Wlad, he's athletic and extremely skilled. Dynamic? Not sure what you mean, but he's shown the ability to beat opponents of many different styles, sizes and attributes. He's certainly not robotic, as is constantly talked about here. If he was, someone would have figured him out now.

Wlad is skilled and athletic But hes no Ali by any stretch of the imagination. Two completely different level of fighters. From Langford, Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Klitschko's are all on the same level. they have different strengths and attributes and h2h vs eachother it comes down to styles. imo it's a known fact. Genetics my friend. Im white too so im not racist and the thing aboout black people being more athletic is not just something ive come up with by myself, it's called science. You will never see a white Jordan, you will never see a white Usain Bolt and you will never see a white Reggie Bush. Something tells me that you know very little about science, genetics, or facts. It sounds bad, but he's right to a point. Black Americans are often superior athletes do to one ugly fact: slavery. The bigger, stronger, faster slaves were often bred together to make "super-slaves." After a few hundred years, it' easy to see how this results in natural athletic superiority. 1) This is a myth. I'm sure that isolated instances could be found but your implying that it was a widespread and common occurrence is simply wrong. 2) Even if this was the standard practice, which it was not, the differences that do exist between races have developed over thousands of years, tens of thousands. You thinking that 200 years would make some huge difference is wrong. 3) Slavery has taken place everywhere. Central/South America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia etc. Even if you 'theory' was correct why would you assume that the same thing hasn't taken place everywhere else, creating "super duper humans' everywhere. The ones dominating UFC are Anderson Silva and st.Pierre. A white guy dominates one sport and all of the sudden they are more athletic than black guys? Fact: A white person will never win an olympic gold in 100m dash. this has to do with genetics, white people aren't arent as explosive as black people are. Olympic Lifters are generally said to be the most explosive athletes. Since studies have revealed that Olympic lifters are the second most flexible athletes next to gymnasts, you get the added bonus of increased mobility. Research done on Olympians at the 1964 Olympics in Mexico revealed that Olympic lifters had higher vertical leap than high jumpers and faster 25 meter sprint times than 100m sprinters. Below link is the database for medal results for Olympic Weightlifting. Browse all you like and take note of European success. http://www.databaseolympics.com/sport/sporteventlist.htm?sp=WEI Your claims are subjective, words like 'explosive' and 'athletic' could be attached to anything sport. You choosing jumping and running as your basis for what you consider the definition of 'best'........what if the next person thinks football (soccer) and swimming is the 'ultimate'. Understand? Using your jumping and running definition though. Olympic lifters run over 25 meters faster than the fastest sprinters. So one could say lifters are fastest, why 100m? Jumping. From 1961 - 1987 the World record for High Jump was not held by a single Black Man. 10 Different men 9 White and 1 Asian held the title. Finally in 1987 1 Black Man from Cuba held the record and still does. So since only 1 Black, 9 Whites, 1 Asian does that mean that a greater quantity of the European population are better jumpers since their representation is more numerous by different individuals at the top of the sport? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_high_jump_world_record_progression The World Record High Jump for Females is held by a Bulgarian On the below link, go to Top Performers and you can see Mens and Womens Indoor and Outdoor results. Almost all are European. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_jump All that said, using jumping and running as the definition for what to consider the 'Pinnacle of Athleticism" would not be my selection. Strength would definitely have to be included in that equation, not sure what else at the moment. Even with that as your definition the conclusions that you've reached don't seem to reflect the reality. P.S. Stop throwing around the word 'fact'. If you do then state some with proof.

Not of his level but yeah it has to happen sometime.

And American football is not popular outside of USA. I agree..... Maybe in a few spots. London, Mexico, etc..The NFL is trying to expand.

Tennins isnt popular Among African-Americans. And American football is not popular outside of USA.

You on crack? 3 grand slam titles don't make you a great tennis players, very good player yes, great no. Gustavo Kuerten has 3 grand slam titles too and nobody considers him great. Tennins isnt popular Among African-Americans.

Arthur Ashe , one of the best ever to do it http://www.newton.k12.ma.us/bigelow/classroom/yerardi/blackhistory05/section1/kennyk/ASHE_Arthur_1975_EL_L.jpg You on crack? 3 grand slam titles don't make you a great tennis players, very good player yes, great no. Gustavo Kuerten has 3 grand slam titles too and nobody considers him great.

Serena and Venus Williams? The heck went on in this thread when I left...lol. I was refering to males.

Sam Peter does.

And a black person will never be a great tennis player, so what's your point? There have already been white winners in 100m dash, but of course your ignorant ass didn't know it. Serena and Venus Williams? The heck went on in this thread when I left...lol.