Roy Jones Jr.... Tainted Legacy

Hopkins has more to lose, but he's done so much and they're both so damn old, that most would be forgiven. Realistically, this is just one of those fights that have happened MANY times over the years. Old rivals that want another pay day, that strikes a chord with a section of the boxing public that will watch. Nothing really wrong with that.

i dont hink it will ruin Hopkins legacy but it would be a statement I think if Hopkins loses everyones going to be like WTF? but i don't think it'll hurt his legacy, it'll just be one of those cases where Jr's got his number.

If Bernard Knocked out Roy I think we can all agree that it wouldn't really mean much in the way of enhancing Hopkins career but if Roy knocked out Bernard what would this mean in terms of his legacy? Would he redeem himself or would it not mean a lot to people? is his legacy too far gone now? Your Thoughts..... bout the same as trinidad to roy.decent win on paper over the years but really meaninglesss Doesn't really mean too much. Like Leonard - Duran III who gives a.. My only thought are that its shameful believe great fighters legacies are tarnished by how they perform once they are passed their best. Hopkins is also an old man so I don't see much upside to either winning, but a loss from either fighter doesn't change the fact they were 2 of the greatest of our generation. good 1 i approve of that post i dont hink it will ruin Hopkins legacy but it would be a statement

this has wandered off subject a bit rele, im asking if roy wins does it mean anything? or is the last few years of his career pointless no matter what now? Funny how that happens. I think if Roy wins it counts for something, it defies the odds. If he wins and retires it counts as a one last hoorah

10 years from now we'll be bitching that Bhop vs Jones JR III is on ppv. haha classic :D

10 years from now it won't make a difference. Roy will be remembered for what he was at his peak and what he accomplished throughout his career. All joking aside, I think you're right. I guess the part i'm bitter about is the people that see fighters like Jones Jr now and think, "Whats all the hype about, this guy isn't that good" not realizing what he once was.

this has wandered off subject a bit rele, im asking if roy wins does it mean anything? or is the last few years of his career pointless no matter what now?

10 years from now we'll be bitching that Bhop vs Jones JR III is on ppv. :rofl: :rofl:

10 years from now it won't make a difference. Roy will be remembered for what he was at his peak and what he accomplished throughout his career. 10 years from now we'll be bitching that Bhop vs Jones JR III is on ppv.

Doesn't mean too much to me. RJJ beat Bernard for a world title when they were both young. That win trumps any win for either fighter now.

True, but Mike also realized he was no longer competitive long before Roy did, the discussion wasn't a "who's got the better resume", or "who was better tyson or jones" but whether or not Jones is tainting his legacy. Most people remember Tyson as a badass at the peak of his career, i think people will remember Jones the same way, unless he continues on and on and on like holyfield to the point in which you're begging him as a fan to retire. Jones lost 5 of his last 10 fights, Tyson lost 3 of his last 10 w/ 2 NC. Holyfield has lost 5 of his last 10, Just saying Jones' legacy is teeter on the edge of Tyson-esque of having his prime days always remembered, or moving into holyfield area of "The guy had heart, too much heart and didn't know when to quit, i can't believe they're still giving this guy fights" 10 years from now it won't make a difference. Roy will be remembered for what he was at his peak and what he accomplished throughout his career.

Mike got stopped when he was 24 years old... knocked out. Roy didnt get knocked out til he was 35 years old. True, but Mike also realized he was no longer competitive long before Roy did, the discussion wasn't a "who's got the better resume", or "who was better tyson or jones" but whether or not Jones is tainting his legacy. Most people remember Tyson as a badass at the peak of his career, i think people will remember Jones the same way, unless he continues on and on and on like holyfield to the point in which you're begging him as a fan to retire. Jones lost 5 of his last 10 fights, Tyson lost 3 of his last 10 w/ 2 NC. Holyfield has lost 5 of his last 10, Just saying Jones' legacy is teeter on the edge of Tyson-esque of having his prime days always remembered, or moving into holyfield area of "The guy had heart, too much heart and didn't know when to quit, i can't believe they're still giving this guy fights"

lmao, people forget that nearly every great diminishes greatly as they get older and rack up a lot of losses. Sugar Ray Robinson is considered the greatest ever and he fought well past it, losing 5 times in 1965 alone. Ali got his ass handed to him by Holmes something vicious. It was sad, but no one forgot how great ali once was. Jones was the greatest fighter of the 90's, losing in 2010 doesn't change that. Seriously........

I think if Jone's KOs Hopkins he'll have a bit of that cinderella man backdrop. But most likely that won't happen, Hopkins will probably carry him for several rounds and either KO him late or win a decision. I guess we have to ask how much damage did Jones JR do to his legacy? Ali stayed too long but is concidered GOAT HW by many. Holyfield is a joke to everyone now, and i think he may have really hurt his legacy. I think Jones JR falls into the Mike Tyson Catagory, where his prime will be remembered as unstoppable, and everyone will accept that his later years he was just a shell of himself. That is if he retires sometime soon Just my Opinion Mike got stopped when he was 24 years old... knocked out. Roy didnt get knocked out til he was 35 years old.

hopkins is going to DESTROY roy.

I think if Jone's KOs Hopkins he'll have a bit of that cinderella man backdrop. But most likely that won't happen, Hopkins will probably carry him for several rounds and either KO him late or win a decision. I guess we have to ask how much damage did Jones JR do to his legacy? Ali stayed too long but is concidered GOAT HW by many. Holyfield is a joke to everyone now, and i think he may have really hurt his legacy. I think Jones JR falls into the Mike Tyson Catagory, where his prime will be remembered as unstoppable, and everyone will accept that his later years he was just a shell of himself. That is if he retires sometime soon Just my Opinion good analysis with the mike tyson comparison... thanks for your input

I think if Jone's KOs Hopkins he'll have a bit of that cinderella man backdrop. But most likely that won't happen, Hopkins will probably carry him for several rounds and either KO him late or win a decision. I guess we have to ask how much damage did Jones JR do to his legacy? Ali stayed too long but is concidered GOAT HW by many. Holyfield is a joke to everyone now, and i think he may have really hurt his legacy. I think Jones JR falls into the Mike Tyson Catagory, where his prime will be remembered as unstoppable, and everyone will accept that his later years he was just a shell of himself. That is if he retires sometime soon Just my Opinion

I see two legacies when I look at Jones career. The pre heavyweight era where he was fantastic and the post heavyweight era where his body paid a heavy price for going up in weight and he was starting to lose his youthful brilliance. I see them as 2 separate careers and this Hopkins fight does little for me. To me it is good pension money for a fighter that was once great.

yes i agree with you, for me roy will always be one of the best to ever step in the ring, his talent is unmatched but people will and do discredit him now and its not like roy hasnt brought it on himself really, hang em up!! Roy should have retired a long time ago, its just sad that people try to act like his losses came anywhere near the prime of his career. Beating up an old man changes nothing for either fighter, but regardless BHop is an ATG and Roy is the most talented fighter Ive ever had the pleasure of watching.

My only thought are that its shameful believe great fighters legacies are tarnished by how they perform once they are passed their best. Hopkins is also an old man so I don't see much upside to either winning, but a loss from either fighter doesn't change the fact they were 2 of the greatest of our generation. yes i agree with you, for me roy will always be one of the best to ever step in the ring, his talent is unmatched but people will and do discredit him now and its not like roy hasnt brought it on himself really, hang em up!!