Wlad's left hook did NOT land!!!!

Looking at the youtube video I understand what the OP is talking about. It "looks" as if the punch missed. So we're faced with one of two possibilities -- either the fight was fixed and Chambers took a dive with seconds left in the fight or the punch landed and the video didn't show it well because of its angle/resolution. Clearly Chambers was KTFO. This video should be a lesson for those who judge earlier fighters solely on the available film. Other video should be readily available...but where is it? Where is the overhead shot of the punch? That's what I wanna see.

That's just crazy. Check Tyson's KO of Berbick. From behind it doesn't look as if the punch lands with any force at all. Face it: It was a left hook to the sweet temple spot knocking Eddie the fuck out. Looking at the youtube video I understand what the OP is talking about. It "looks" as if the punch missed. So we're faced with one of two possibilities -- either the fight was fixed and Chambers took a dive with seconds left in the fight or the punch landed and the video didn't show it well because of its angle/resolution. Clearly Chambers was KTFO. This video should be a lesson for those who judge earlier fighters solely on the available film.

I've seen the replay from different angles now dozens of times and Wlad's left hook does NOT land. I am not some kind of hater and I don't have an agenda. That punch did not land. When Wlad is throwing the punch, Eddie's guard comes up while he is simultaneously moving back and his head is going back and to the left a bit. The punch never landed folks. The punch hit the inside of Eddie's left glove and Eddie's glove richocheted into his face which caused his head to snap back and that made it look like it was a clean punch. Watch the replays from the different angles as many times as it takes to see what really happened. Get ya eyes check'd

Actually, if you do as I asked you'd see that Eddie starts to turn his head to the left a bit before Wlad's glove gets close. His head snaps back because his OWN glove (his left one) hits him in the face as a result of Wlad hitting his left glove. It's a richochet effect of sorts. That punch comes nowhere near Eddie's right temple. If you go to the 4:24 mark, you can see that Eddie's right temple is many inches away from the course that Wlad's left hook traveled. Yeah i actually see what you mean, i never said it hit his temple but the way his head twists even if the punch didnt actually touch his face it was enough to KO him., That is for sure, you cant argue with the fact he was on the ground face first, ****ed.

You're not following. It's pretty easy to surmise exactly where Eddie's gloves were. I've tried to explain it as simply as I can. If you cannot follow, there's not much more I can say. You don't have to 'surmise' anything when the video is uploaded for all to see. But if that's how you feel very well, we're done.

Except Chambers doesn't employ the cross-armed defence. He uses the peek-a-boo, as he was doing when the punch was thrown. So what you say is physically impossible. You're not following. It's pretty easy to surmise exactly where Eddie's gloves were. I've tried to explain it as simply as I can. If you cannot follow, there's not much more I can say.

But what the **** is your point!!!??? what a shit thread. Worst one this year, grow a brain you imbecile. The point is that the punch didn't land.

Basically, Eddie's head was behind his guard. What I'm saying is pretty easy to follow. I'm not trying to make it confusing. Except Chambers doesn't employ the cross-armed defence. He uses the peek-a-boo, as he was doing when the punch was thrown. So what you say is physically impossible.

Whilst a man hitting the inside of another man's outstretched left glove can somehow defy the laws of physics and end up hitting said fighter on the right side of his head. What is this, a Bollywood movie? Eddie's left glove was the closest thing to Wlad's hook trajectory. If you look CLOSELY at that first .gif you can see how the right side of Eddie's head is not in range of Wlad's left hook. It does not connect.

Although the TS seems to quite sincerely believe the utter gibberish he wrote, and attempts to invoke the gods to logic to lend some credibility to his claim, his analysis still makes no sense. He claims that the left hook didn't hit Chambers head but the inside of his left glove, which then somehow hit Chambers in the side of the head thus causing the knockout. Is Chambers some freak that his head is actually located to the left of his left glove? Or was the glove attached with elastic to the side of Chambers head so that the rebound caught Chambers whose head then moved (again) to the left? Is this even physically possible? Of course it isn't. And the punch landed. Chambers' head was inside of his left glove but his left glove was out in FRONT of his head some when Wlad's glove hit Eddie's glove. Basically, Eddie's head was behind his guard. What I'm saying is pretty easy to follow. I'm not trying to make it confusing.

Eddie's left glove is in front of his head some and Wlad's hook is clearly hitting Eddie's left glove in that sequence. The trajectory that Wlad's punch took would've made it impossible for Wlad to hit Eddie in the head/face. Whilst a man hitting the inside of another man's outstretched left glove can somehow defy the laws of physics and end up hitting said fighter on the right side of his head. What is this, a Bollywood movie?

To be fair, from some angles it looks like it didn't land. That said, horrible effort by Chambers, he didn't even try to win. Someone predicted that it would be similar to V Klitschko v Johnson, good call. But at least Chambers had the common decency not to talk shit while fighting scared. I want to see an overhead angle of the punch.

no offence to the TS...but this is probably the worse thread I've ever read on boxingscene...EVER....it's clear at both 4:18 and 4:24 that Eddie got caught by a hard left hook and as a result got KTFO...and even if it was Wlad hitting Eddies Glove and Eddies glove KO'ing Eddie...then Wlad deserves even MORE credit as he hit something softer than his own hand which then KO'd Eddie. If you put more cushioning onto someones chin and then hit their chin, the chances of KO'ing them is much slimmer. Sounds like you're unsure.

http://gickr.com/results4/anim_973610a4-fde2-be14-9df0-5616977302ad.gif http://gickr.com/results4/anim_7a44fb9b-c8a2-fc34-2d86-e5cc6d73a0d3.gif http://gickr.com/results4/anim_911e7145-fedb-6314-4d68-cfa7c28230f1.gif Thank you for posting these, Dan. In that first sequence you posted, you can see just how far behind Eddie's head is from Wlad's fist. Eddie's left glove is in front of his head some and Wlad's hook is clearly hitting Eddie's left glove in that sequence. The trajectory that Wlad's punch took would've made it impossible for Wlad to hit Eddie in the head/face.

Everyone on this thread disagrees with you which demonstrates in quite a clear and concise manner that you are in fact a moron. I am not here to please anyone. I just thought it was interesting that the punch didn't land anywhere but Eddie's left glove so I thought I'd report it. You don't have to agree with my stance on this, I really don't care. What I am doing is journalistic integrity of sorts. Unless a different camera angle comes out that definitively shows it hits Eddie's face/head, I will forever believe that the punch did not land.

Actually, if you do as I asked you'd see that Eddie starts to turn his head to the left a bit before Wlad's glove gets close. His head snaps back because his OWN glove (his left one) hits him in the face as a result of Wlad hitting his left glove. It's a richochet effect of sorts. That punch comes nowhere near Eddie's right temple. If you go to the 4:24 mark, you can see that Eddie's right temple is many inches away from the course that Wlad's left hook traveled. were you dropped on your head as a baby? ****ing retard

Asked and answered. I am not a mind reader. I'm simply bringing to light the sequence in which the punch did not land; nothing more. You're a tool.

So if Wlad's punch didn't land then WHY did Chambers go down??????????? Asked and answered. I am not a mind reader. I'm simply bringing to light the sequence in which the punch did not land; nothing more.

Was I talking to you? Or are you still mad at me because I make a fool out of you every time you make up historical lies? Can you answer the question? What European fighters did Joe Louis and Ali duck? That's what I thought. Eastern European fighters weren't allowed to box. Not quite letting that one sink in, are you? Historical lies like Jack Johnson fighting a green, 156 lb Sam Langford, or a bunch of other green black fighters, all of which he ducked while champ? Lies like winning his title from a guy who would be a small JMW today? Sure, buddy.

So you believe Eddie went down without being hit. Why do you think he'd do such a thing with only 10 seconds left and not in say round 2 when he was hurt from a very visible right? :popcorn: All I am doing is analyzing the punch sequence from the different camera angles. Eddie's own glove hits him in the face as a result of Wlad hitting Eddie's left glove. It's there. I'll leave all of the 'dive' talk to you and the others. I am not here to answer such questions that you put forth about why he'd do this in round 12 and not round 2 because I don't have the answer to such a question.