Heavyweight boxing is pathetic!!!

They are only boring in the minds of people who hate them. :nono: Klitschkos have been outweighed by at least 25 of their opponents. Several opponents are comparable in height. And Wlad's 81" reach is less than at least 15 of his opponents, such as Thompson, Austin, McCline, etc. His arm length of 26" is less than about 25 of his opponents. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=7035&cat=boxer If all it takes is size, Marcellus Brown and Julius Long would be world heavyweight champions. Being outweighed by guys that bleed custard doesnt count and you know it

I bet the likes of Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman etc watch this shit and cringe!!! It's the style dude. Klitschko is the real deal. I find it funny how everyone has a gameplan to win vs the brothers but once they feel the weight of the jab all they want to do is cover up. And the more they cover up, the more they prolong the painful, predictable finale. It's just not possible to cover up vs Wlad, if you think you can get used to the power, get comfortable, you are wrong. It must be hard as hell to fight them. The kickboxing background give them a perfect sense of distance, many kids don't have that. Eddy isn't an ATG but it's a damn good win for wlad, one of the very best he could fight... But we get the feeling people don't watch any tape when preparing to fight the Klitschkos. Or they just don't watch the full tape, i don't know. It's stupid to cover up vs them, stupid. It's like covering up keeping from getting shot with a gun.:thumbsdow

Lennox Lewis recieved hate too... your post sucks:thumbsdow you know what..your right. I remember Lewis was getting the same type of hate. I think it's Americans wanting a HW champ because that has been the cry ever since Lewis beat Holyfield.

It's true. Some people, mostly self-hating white guys, bash them and never give them credit because they are white. again co-sign. People try to do the same thing with Arthur Abraham. Im a big fan of his and I have to listen to all types of garbage such as he is slow, flat footed, will easily be outworked etc... It's fukkin disgusting because if he was from america or was black...people would claim he is the Mike Tyson of the Middle/Super Middle weight division. SMH

the HW division has been weak since the late 70s. None of these eastern european slavs would make it to round 2 against the likes of ali, frazier, foreman, norton, holmes. And tyson wouldve killed that 6'6 giant klitchko with a right uppercut from hell.

I bet the likes of Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman etc watch this shit and cringe!!! It would be good to see the Klitsckho brothers fight the likes of Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Tyson in their prime !!!!!!

:crying: :bottle: That's not true. The division is doing very well with very good boxers like the Klitschkos, Haye, Povetkin, Boytsov, and Pulev. The American heavyweights are not very good, but overall the division is fine. Co-sign. That will change though once Hunter, schimmel and hamer get pro experience. American HW boxing will back, but it will take about 3-4 years.

:crying: :bottle: That's not true. The division is doing very well with very good boxers like the Klitschkos, Haye, Povetkin, Boytsov, and Pulev. The American heavyweights are not very good, that part is true. Did you just compliment Haye? I thought you hated him. :lol1:

:crying: :bottle: That's not true. The division is doing very well with top notch boxers like the Klitschkos, Haye, Povetkin, Boytsov, and Pulev. I think the division is great, but who is Pulev? :dunno:

I gotta disagree, Amercian HW's are pathetic, the euro's have essentially taken over and are filling arenas on a regular basis with 50k plus. The Klitchko bros. would have be top ten in any era, they aren't just big but they have so much athletism and boxing skills. Its just a shame they could never cross over to the American market mainly because the good competition is also Euro and American fighters don't put up much of a fight. Just ask Lennox Lewis how good they are, he never did grant a rematch to a man who was forced to not continue due to cuts. A true champion would have granted a rematch.

I agree, there is only so many times I can watch a much bigger man jab a fat little guy for a whole fight. Nobody told that man to be little and Fat and go up against a much bigger man! he knew what he was stepping in the ring with! If a HW cant get right and train hard than this is what we have. Klits aint ducking nobody they are fighting what they have. And winning. What they are here to do!

Tuggers is right, its not the Klits fault, the division has too much little talent and the weights are are not in line with a competitive atmosphere. I give all respect to them, they follow their plans and execute incredibly - with that said, its boring as boring can get and I long for the days when there is a HW fight I care about

You just hate the Klits cause they are white. If they were black and fought the exact same way, you would praise them. Im a white european just like them but yeah you must be right!!

To me, I can't get excited about the Heavyweight division because all the Americans that have decent boxing ability don't have the punch to go with it. I don't care what anybody says. I might sound like somebody who won't give the Klits credit, but when is the last time you saw Vladimir fight a guy with boxing ability and punching power at the same time? The reason why we know that Ali was great is because he had guys to test him. The reason we know Joe Louis is great is because he had guys to test him. The reason we know Marciano is great is because he had guys to test him. The reason why we finally found out that Lennox Lewis belongs in the category of an ATG is because he passed the test of beating, yeah I said it, Vitali Klitchko while he was out of shape. Those guys all had one thing in common. The fighters in their division had the punching power to test them. Vlad and Vitali don't have that for the most part. Now the Arreola win was a pretty good win. But there is an example of how Vitali gets the power puncher while Vladimir gets the undersized guys almost 100% of the time even though they both fight their share of undersized feather fisted boxers. But Vitali is the greater of the two by far.

The Klitschko's will continue to reign unless the HW division gets people that can actually be offensive against these giants.If David Haye cannot get through that jab,the same thing will happen to him. Eddie Chambers looking more like a cruiserweight that eats himself up to HW doesn't help... The KO was brutal and could have come sooner...

Yeah, let me just point out im not saying its the Klits fault heavyweight boxing is the way it is. Theyre making the best of a bad situation. The point im trying to make is... Wlad could have had Chambers out of there byt the 6th round if he wanted to but instead he just jabbed all night and occasionally threw the right. And the KO looked like it just grazed Chambers and didnt really catch him flush but props to Wlad for getting the job done even if I was trying not to nod off

Guys like Wlad need their own weight class, I'm not blaming the lack of competition for the heavyweight class being wack. But you really can't expect normal sized or undersized heavyweights to beat a guy Wlads size. Dude is all muscle and no 208 pound man is going to do shit to him. If your not at least 230 Solid ( prime Holyfield type) dont even bother. Holyfield has never come into a fight weighing over 220 in his career. he's usually 215ish. In fact in his prime he was under 215

If its boring and pissing you guys off...you have the option not to watch...lol No kidding, I don't watch any boxing below 115 pounds, just doesn't excite me. But you don't see me in threads about Calderon talking crap on him cause he didn't knock someone out. Tuggers is just angry cuz he's severely lacking downstairs (and most people on here have seen the proof.)

Guys like Wlad need their own weight class, I'm not blaming the lack of competition for the heavyweight class being wack. But you really can't expect normal sized or undersized heavyweights to beat a guy Wlads size. Dude is all muscle and no 208 pound man is going to do shit to him. If your not at least 230 Solid ( prime Holyfield type) dont even bother.

If its boring and pissing you guys off...you have the option not to watch...lol