Just rewatched the Mayweather - Hatton fight
and from what i saw mayweather didnt really look as impressive as everybody thinks. from what i can gather from peoples posts is that after 2 rounds onward mayweather completely dominated. from what i saw it didnt really look that way at all, hatton seemed to have mayweather a bit of balance and looking a bit uncomfortable for the majority of the fight. Only when hatton started to tire did it seem mayweather started to take control.
When i watch mayweather fight you'll occaisonly see his opponent open up and throw like a 10 punch combo with mayweather on the ropes doing his shoulder roll thing, and if you rewatch that in slow mo you can see most of those punches dont land. but a judge doesnt see that in slow mo, and in my opinion it looks pretty bad for mayweather when it happens, especially when he doesnt throw back
I haven't seen the clottey fight but from what i read pac was able to keep up an intense pace for the full 12 rounds ( for those that saw it please correct me if im wrong here) and pac being twice the fighter hatton is i.e able to come foward using angles unlike hatton did, stamina for an intense 12 rounds unlike hatton ( against mayweather at least ) and with more power, im starting to sway toward a pac victory
before i would've thought mayweather UD for sure but now im not so sure after rewatching the hatton - mayweather fight. if hatton can keep mayweather uncomfortable im sure pacquiao can do an even better job of that as well as doing it for 12 rounds rather than the 6 hatton lasted before tiring.
thoughts.
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as what they say Pac is different now compare from the past.
2 different styles,Hatton likes to hold and shove alot while Pacquiao just comes in and throw fast awkard punches in bunches.Mayweather can Neutralize the punches in bunches by Holding to keep himself from being out worked in the corners.
And i noticed in the Cotto fight with Pac that Pac had problems cutting the ring off at times.Floyd has way faster footwork then Cotto.
Pac has poor defense and i think that`s one of the many things that`s gonna be his undoing if he fights Floyd.
some really good points here, you've changed my mind
i mustve mistaken hattons pressure for making mayweather look bad rather than the "hold and shove" style
I noticed that in the cotto fight aswell, mayweather didnt use lateral movement in the hatton fight until the last few rounds though, he seemed to like to go backwards.
If floyd can be aggressive with his counters against pac hes got it for sure, but floyd seems to be content throwing one at a time. take the ODLH fight for example, he was potshotting all night and that was scored pretty close amongst the judges. he better not do that against pac, pacs a busy fighter and if floyds not doing much pac will just bank those rounds by default almost with just workrate.
I watched that round 4 koboy and mayweather took over for the second half of the round definetly, i didnt think may kept it up the next couple rounds though. i dont know why cause he seemed to be pretty effective when on the attack, i dont know why he waited til round 8 to do it again.
I think Rd 4 was a gauge round for PBF just to see where Hatton is at physically and mentally. After RD 4, he was probably devising the best way to defeat Hatton. I think he might have taken Rd 5 and on just to give Hatton the confidence back so that he would attack, which would be perfect for the "check hook" which was the punch that knocked Hatton down the first time, and incidentally, PBF was throwing the whole fight.
Although PBF sometimes takes rounds off, I think it's all part of his gameplan to keep his opponents guessing or merely to pace himself. I also believe that he doesn't fight round by round like alot of fighters, but he strategizes and adjusts the whole fight. If he took rounds off, there is a reason behind it.
Hatton-PBF was marred by clinches. Hatton lacks the power, speed, and accuracy of Pac. he may have taken 2 rounds in that fight. I don't see PBF stopping Pac either.
that it was, and i agree with you about pac. hatton was trying to work when in a clinch but it was pretty ineffective and sloppy really. that an cortez didnt let him fight "his fight" but i dont think it wouldve mattered at all. i think pac be much more effective if in same situation, but he doesnt clinch like hatton
and 2 rounds only? man depends how you like to score a fight i suppose, and in that fight floyd just threw 1 punch at a time for the most part, i myself like to see combinations. mayweather just liked to throw the single right hand cause it was landing but he was content with just that
If he tries to potshot with pacquiao i just dont think its gonna be enough to bank rounds with pac going a million miles an hour at him.
I watched that round 4 koboy and mayweather took over for the second half of the round definetly, i didnt think may kept it up the next couple rounds though. i dont know why cause he seemed to be pretty effective when on the attack, i dont know why he waited til round 8 to do it again.
well thats sorta what im saying? pac is better, and from what i remember hatton had floyd feeling uncomfortable
but i can see some simularities between hatton and pacquiao, not dead on the same but things like both aggressive, like to put pressure on opponent, like to throw as many punches as possible
Hatton-PBF was marred by clinches. Hatton lacks the power, speed, and accuracy of Pac. he may have taken 2 rounds in that fight. I don't see PBF stopping Pac either.
I do remember round 8 being fuckin brilliant, but i put it down to hatton getting tired and not putting as much effective pressure as before. i'll go watch round 4 again
I keep changing my mind on this fight cause i'll think of all the reasons why 1 will win and then change my mind when i think about how the other can win.
in pacs last 4 fights he hasnt really fought anyone slick when coming up to 147
clottey - punching bag apparently
Cotto - brilliant win in my opinion, probably his best but i think cotto lacked the swiftness and slickness to give pac trouble.
Hatton - good win, hatton there to be hit though, never expected him to take him out in that fashion though. impressed me alot with his power there.
ODLH - to light, not the same oscar mayweather fought. barely did anything.
boxers like jmm and morales gave pac the most trouble by boxing
with mayweather and his recent fights hatton is the closest comparison i can make to pac, and from what i could see hatton had him feeling uncomfortable.
i'll go watch round 4 of that fight again though.
"boxers like jmm and morales gave pac the most trouble by boxing"
well the pac that fought jmm and morales before is not the same pac now. i think he has improved a lot on balance and his right hand.
Pac is worlds better than Hatton. No comparison.
well thats sorta what im saying? pac is better, and from what i remember hatton had floyd feeling uncomfortable
but i can see some simularities between hatton and pacquiao, not dead on the same but things like both aggressive, like to put pressure on opponent, like to throw as many punches as possible
Watch Round 4 and Round 8 and you'll see an incredible display of ring generalship, boxing, counter punching, setting up your punches, feinting, accuracy, placement and everything a boxing fan would appreciate.
Hatton may have been an overrated monster created by the PBF hype machine to justify the fight, but it shouldn't take away from Floyd's masterful performance that night.
Watch Rd 4 and Rd 8 again, please. Forget it's PBF. If you are a true fan of the sport, you would enjoy it.
I do remember round 8 being fuckin brilliant, but i put it down to hatton getting tired and not putting as much effective pressure as before. i'll go watch round 4 again
I keep changing my mind on this fight cause i'll think of all the reasons why 1 will win and then change my mind when i think about how the other can win.
in pacs last 4 fights he hasnt really fought anyone slick when coming up to 147
clottey - punching bag apparently
Cotto - brilliant win in my opinion, probably his best but i think cotto lacked the swiftness and slickness to give pac trouble.
Hatton - good win, hatton there to be hit though, never expected him to take him out in that fashion though. impressed me alot with his power there.
ODLH - to light, not the same oscar mayweather fought. barely did anything.
boxers like jmm and morales gave pac the most trouble by boxing
with mayweather and his recent fights hatton is the closest comparison i can make to pac, and from what i could see hatton had him feeling uncomfortable.
i'll go watch round 4 of that fight again though.
Watch Round 4 and Round 8 and you'll see an incredible display of ring generalship, boxing, counter punching, setting up your punches, feinting, accuracy, placement and everything a boxing fan would appreciate.
Hatton may have been an overrated monster created by the PBF hype machine to justify the fight, but it shouldn't take away from Floyd's masterful performance that night.
Watch Rd 4 and Rd 8 again, please. Forget it's PBF. If you are a true fan of the sport, you would enjoy it.
I dont think PBF hyped up Hatton as much as HBO did. Mayweather never said anything good about hatton for at least 5 years prior to that fight. there are threads on here dating from 2004 where mayweather complains of hatton not wanting to fight him.
Watch Round 4 and Round 8 and you'll see an incredible display of ring generalship, boxing, counter punching, setting up your punches, feinting, accuracy, placement and everything a boxing fan would appreciate.
Hatton may have been an overrated monster created by the PBF hype machine to justify the fight, but it shouldn't take away from Floyd's masterful performance that night.
Watch Rd 4 and Rd 8 again, please. Forget it's PBF. If you are a true fan of the sport, you would enjoy it.