People seem to forget how little Floyd let his hands go. In 12 rounds he threw 493..."I didn't fight back" Clottey threw 399. Clottey spent 99% of the fight covered up yet he threw 80% of the punches Floyd did.
Good point. Manny just made Clottey look inactive because he (Manny) spent the entire fight punching, 100 punches a round... amazing.
i don't understand why this bothers people and i don't understand why people say clottey was scared,lets be fukkin serious.when the fight was first announced everyone thought the same thing that this was a fight that was tailor made for pac because clottey spends most of his time in front of u playin defense
Because no matter what your usual style is, if its not working for you this one fight, you need to try something different. You need to try something different because you supposedly came to win the fight.
Do you suppose that the best fighters just say "hey, my style aint working on him, I better just lay down and claim i had an upset stomach"???
I had no illusions about Clotteys chances. I was cynical about it from the start. I knew he was just showing up for the cash and the ride. But even I thought he would try to give a better showing for himself then what he did.
Honestly people, which fight was more exciting?
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Co-Sign, but i have to pull for the pac/clottey match only cause Pac tried to do everything he could to make it exciting vs an overmatched opponent, the may/marquez fight on the other hand, fmj didnt, even when he kd marquez he didnt go for the kill, he was content with having a 12rd dec...
they were both decent fights, mayweather looked mint against marquez. When Clottey threw punches it was a good fight
Its not the actual number of punches thrown that bothers people.
Its that Clottey was using a strategy that was going to get him blanked out, and he chose to continue with that same strategy throughout the fight, when boxing fans expect him to "try" to win the fight.
If Floyd was losing rounds and his trainer was begging him to let his hands go, then he would get criticized as well for not doing it. As it were Floyd is the kind of fighter who "tries" to win fights.
i don't understand why this bothers people and i don't understand why people say clottey was scared,lets be fukkin serious.when the fight was first announced everyone thought the same thing that this was a fight that was tailor made for pac because clottey spends most of his time in front of u playin defense
People seem to forget how little Floyd let his hands go. In 12 rounds he threw 493..."I didn't fight back" Clottey threw 399. Clottey spent 99% of the fight covered up yet he threw 80% of the punches Floyd did.
Its not the actual number of punches thrown that bothers people.
Its that Clottey was using a strategy that was going to get him blanked out, and he chose to continue with that same strategy throughout the fight, when boxing fans expect him to "try" to win the fight.
If Floyd was losing rounds and his trainer was begging him to let his hands go, then he would get criticized as well for not doing it. As it were Floyd is the kind of fighter who "tries" to win fights.
People seem to forget how little Floyd let his hands go. In 12 rounds he threw 493..."I didn't fight back" Clottey threw 399. Clottey spent 99% of the fight covered up yet he threw 80% of the punches Floyd did.
Yeah, it isn't complicated at all, but since you're such an understanding chap, you should understand that we all have different taste. :) We look for different things in boxing, not just boxing, ya dig.
Cool, I feel you. I dont have a problem with that. Matter of fact thats exactly why I can enjoy a Pac fight and a Floyd fight. I can enjoy different styles, different skill sets in boxing.
However, the point of a match remains the same doesnt it? You fight to win the fight, even when you know you cant.
I can say that I personally see no value whatsoever in a fight where one fighter is not trying to fight. Can you tell me what was appealing enough for you to watch it 4 times?
A fight had two guys fighting to win.
Another had only one guy fighting to win.
Its not that complicated.
Yeah, it isn't complicated at all, but since you're such an understanding chap, you should understand that we all have different taste. :) We look for different things in boxing, not just boxing, ya dig.
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The proof will be in how many times would you re-watch each fight, iv watched may-marquez many times but i wouldnt sit through the pac fight again.
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thats called getting the rounds in the bank after a long lay off, i mean whats the point in blasting him out in 2 rounds, pointless....
For me may/marquez was more exciting because that was masterclass, most of the time id rather watch a masterclass over 12 rather a slug fest that ends a couple of rounds, but thats just me...
As for pac/clottey that was neither, it really didnt do anything for me, best bit was watching pacs body shots.
The proof will be in how many times would you re-watch each fight, iv watched may-marquez many times but i wouldnt sit through the pac fight again.
Marquez has never been knocked out. Pacquiao knocked him down four times in two fights, but was still not able to knock him out. He's tough.
I'm not watching the replay of Pacquiao vs. Clottey this weekend. Maybe if I need help sleeping.
I have watched Pacquiao-Clottey 4 times in total, and I watched Mayweather-Marquez once, plus watched a couple of rounds on YouTube, then turned it off, honestly, because I found it boring.
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Honestly people, which fight was more exciting?
I couldn't vote cause niether was exciting, but I found Marquez at bit more enjoyable to watch, at least he tried to fight back.
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Co-Sign, but i have to pull for the pac/clottey match only cause Pac tried to do everything he could to make it exciting vs an overmatched opponent, the may/marquez fight on the other hand, fmj didnt, even when he kd marquez he didnt go for the kill, he was content with having a 12rd dec...
thats called getting the rounds in the bank after a long lay off, i mean whats the point in blasting him out in 2 rounds, pointless....
For me may/marquez was more exciting because that was masterclass, most of the time id rather watch a masterclass over 12 rather a slug fest that ends a couple of rounds, but thats just me...
As for pac/clottey that was neither, it really didnt do anything for me, best bit was watching pacs body shots.
The proof will be in how many times would you re-watch each fight, iv watched may-marquez many times but i wouldnt sit through the pac fight again.
I say the Mayweather-Marquez fight was more exciting. It was amazing seeing Floyd's quick reflexes and counterpunching. Marquez was trying.
The Pac-Clottey fight was not exciting because Pac was punching and Clottey was blocking. There were barely any clean punches landed by any fighter.
However, Pac did get some good body work towards the end; but most of his punches were blocked. Clottey came for a paycheck; not a belt.
Mayweather vs. Marquez. There were punches thrown by both fighters in that fight. Only one man was throwing punches in Pacquiao vs. Clottey.
I think thats the only thing going for the Mayweather JMM fight in that no one told JMM he couldn't win and kept trying from opening to closing bell. Also, IMO, in a true skillset JMM is miles better than Clottey so a bit of thinking had to go on between Mayweather and Marquez.
but IMO its still Manny vs Clottey because of the effort put forth by Manny
They were both poor fights. But I'd have to say Pac vs Clottey. More action I guess???
At least Clottey had a chance to win which he didn't cap size on. Marquez had no chance.