Is Pacquiao starting to slow down?
March 16th, 2010
By Chris Williams
Manny Pacquiao didn’t look all that impressive to me last Saturday night in beating Joshua Clottey by a 12 round decision. The hand speed wasn’t there, and neither was the movement and power. And looking at how badly Pacquiao was gasping for breaths in between rounds, it seemed like he wasn’t in shape. I don’t whether Pacquiao is long for the welterweight division unless he plans on getting out of the sport soon. I can see a point in the very near future where Pacquiao will start to take major punishment if he chooses to stick around much longer.
As it was last Saturday, Pacquiao got kind of beat up by Clottey, especially around the face. Clottey had no problems landing his shots and did a nice job of puffing up Pacquiao’s right eye in the limited amount of times that he landed during the night. If Pacquiao does eventually fight Floyd Mayweather, which I serious doubt at this time, I think Pacquiao is going to end up getting really pound by Mayweather and badly beaten up.
The way I see it all the feeding and the emphasis on making Pacquiao a bigger fighter has hurt him by making his slower and hurting his conditioning. While Pacquiao was in the corner in between rounds, I could even see fat on him. He’s starting to put weight on and it’s not muscle. That tells me that Pacquiao needs to lose some weight, stop easting as much, work on his conditioning more or think about retiring.
The way Pacquiao fought on Saturday night, I think Mayweather – or Mosley – would have beaten him senseless without any problems. Pacquiao has always been able to get away with having poor defensive skills because of his fast hands, aggressiveness and high work rate. But now that Pacquiao has moved up in weight and is looking to finally fight a live body in Mayweather, his lack of defensive skills are going to be badly exposed by Mayweather or Mosley.
You can’t fight those guys with a primitive brawling style like Pacquiao. It takes a complete fighter to not only beat those guys but to compete with them. What I saw of Pacquiao on Saturday night wasn’t a fighter that would be able to even come close to beating Mayweather or Mosley. My advice then is for Pacquiao to retire or take off some of that flab that he’s put on, stop eating so much and learn some defensive skills.
Pacquiao needs to say no to being power fed and he needs to work on his stamina. Also, I don’t know that Freddie Roach is going to be able to teach Pacquiao the defensive skills needed to beat Mayweather or Mosley. Roach has been training Pacquiao for years now, yet Pacquiao still is wide open defensively, as if he hasn’t learned anything. I think Pacquiao needs a defensive trainer to that can work with Roach and try and make Pacquiao a better fighter.
Off the net obviously, I don't believe it myself,
I just thought it make some good points though,
Manny was breathing heavily in between rounds and there was no head movement or defense whatsoever
How can there be defense when Clottey almost wasn't punching?
Yes, if it makes you happy, Paq is getting slower
Is Pacquiao starting to slow down?
March 16th, 2010
By Chris Williams
Manny Pacquiao didn’t look all that impressive to me last Saturday night in beating Joshua Clottey by a 12 round decision. The hand speed wasn’t there, and neither was the movement and power. And looking at how badly Pacquiao was gasping for breaths in between rounds, it seemed like he wasn’t in shape. I don’t whether Pacquiao is long for the welterweight division unless he plans on getting out of the sport soon. I can see a point in the very near future where Pacquiao will start to take major punishment if he chooses to stick around much longer.
As it was last Saturday, Pacquiao got kind of beat up by Clottey, especially around the face. Clottey had no problems landing his shots and did a nice job of puffing up Pacquiao’s right eye in the limited amount of times that he landed during the night. If Pacquiao does eventually fight Floyd Mayweather, which I serious doubt at this time, I think Pacquiao is going to end up getting really pound by Mayweather and badly beaten up.
The way I see it all the feeding and the emphasis on making Pacquiao a bigger fighter has hurt him by making his slower and hurting his conditioning. While Pacquiao was in the corner in between rounds, I could even see fat on him. He’s starting to put weight on and it’s not muscle. That tells me that Pacquiao needs to lose some weight, stop easting as much, work on his conditioning more or think about retiring.
The way Pacquiao fought on Saturday night, I think Mayweather – or Mosley – would have beaten him senseless without any problems. Pacquiao has always been able to get away with having poor defensive skills because of his fast hands, aggressiveness and high work rate. But now that Pacquiao has moved up in weight and is looking to finally fight a live body in Mayweather, his lack of defensive skills are going to be badly exposed by Mayweather or Mosley.
You can’t fight those guys with a primitive brawling style like Pacquiao. It takes a complete fighter to not only beat those guys but to compete with them. What I saw of Pacquiao on Saturday night wasn’t a fighter that would be able to even come close to beating Mayweather or Mosley. My advice then is for Pacquiao to retire or take off some of that flab that he’s put on, stop eating so much and learn some defensive skills.
Pacquiao needs to say no to being power fed and he needs to work on his stamina. Also, I don’t know that Freddie Roach is going to be able to teach Pacquiao the defensive skills needed to beat Mayweather or Mosley. Roach has been training Pacquiao for years now, yet Pacquiao still is wide open defensively, as if he hasn’t learned anything. I think Pacquiao needs a defensive trainer to that can work with Roach and try and make Pacquiao a better fighter.
and Santa Claus will bring you a new Floyd Mayweather doll for christmas, you can pull a little string on its back and it will take stupid, predictable, disrespectful, childish, annoying shit. Paq was breathing hard between rounds, when is the last time anyone threw 120 punches in the tenth round? How many fighters out their throw 1200 plus rounds in a fight? Paq is on a historic roll and you think he should consider retiring? Amazing. Simply amazing the lengths people will go to discredit someone they dont like, never mind reality, who needs it. Yes, the version of Paq that fought Clottey would get beat by Floyd, but that version will not fight Floyd if the fight is ever made. Roach is stupid since when? He will have a totally different game plan in place for Floyd, and another one for SSM, and yet another one for Berto, if it comes to that.
No...and you wouldn't need much head movement and defense if my opponent barely throws anything back...or at least bother to care about it
says the 19 year old boxing expert :haha::haha::haha:
Dude were do you get all this articles from?
The mods should ban him because these articles are from a website banned on these forums and the site in question was EXPOSED by another website. Almost all of their writers are THE SAME PERSON. Another site exposed them badly but I guess some people love to read "shit" all day.
He's suppose to slow down he's 31 now--anyways--he should go back down to 140...that's much more natural weight for him....not having to eat 7000 calories a day just to maintain and/or gain weight.
MAnny pressure is not gonna work cause Floyd is not going to be a astationary target.
You idiots are still on this"pressure beats Floyd"even though Floyd beat alot of Pressure fighters.
yeah Floyd beats Manny easily in fantasy. What else is new?
As for me, I'll wait for the fight to happen.
Everyone knows they picked Clottey because he is a good defense boxer,
With a good right hand, Okay is defense is nothing alike nor is his boxing style,
But who else in the Welterweight division is like Floyd?
They where hardly gonna pick a fight with Steve Forbes......
yeah, clottey's a good defensive boxer but every one with an eye could see that his "clamshell" defense is more of a winky wright defense than a PBF defense..
PBF's defense is hard to emulate, the closest i can think of is Joan Guzman; but who would watch that fight?
if you'rs expecting the same performance from pac against PBF, you're the one who is in for a shock.. pac's face could also be busted but PBF's defense can't neutralize pac's offense for sure..
Its mostly stupid Pactards that think Pac has a chance against Floyd thus why they are called Pactards.
No matter how much this writer drop the science he is still not going to convince people who who are born with mental Pactardation.
why would you say he doesnt have a chance when he destroyed delahoya, cotto, hatton, clottey..
Pac fought last November, he had to rest in December while knowing he will have fight again on March, he started practicing January until February then fought on March 13 and still beat up a very durable fighter.
In boxing match, with the jab as the primary weapon? No no, Floyd want that kind of moderate paced chess match.
Pac's game plan isn't the most technical and he will have to probably eat some jabs and lead rights to make work but he needs to keep it close and make it a fight I think.
The key to beating Mayweather is try keep him in the center of the ring thats what Castillo did in the first fight,
He needs to try and neutralize the shoulder roll also, its absolutely foolish to throw hooks and crosses on Mayweather, You'll never land....
Manny needs to try shift to Floyds left, Castillo did this and found himself landing left hooks, followed by right hands to the body...
The shoulder roll is the weakest on the left, thats if Floyd implies it,
Which he may not due to Manny being southpaw.....
Mayweather is usually too quick to let a fighter gain an angle like that, but Castillo frequently found him in that position because of the way he was cutting him off and limiting his roaming areas. So ANGLES is the key. Direct punches can be fully nullified by the skilled fighter using the Shoulder Roll.
No direct pressure, but angular pressure
pac performs according to what the opponent brings to him. for the cotto fight, cotto threw about 600 punches and pac responded by throwing around 780 of his own and landing 50% of them.
clottey threw <400 punches and pac had to up his workrate to 1200+ as a result since he was punching for the both of them to keep the fight interesting for the fans.
as for defense, pac showed very good D vs. de la hoya avoiding and blocking those left hooks and even against jmm in the rematch where he blocked, ducked and slipped punches while launching counters himself. the punch that kd'd jmm was actually a compact inside counter left hook.
I don't know about whether the article says it's true (mere observation, nothing conclusive yet) but, Clottey's just standing or walking the whole time. I think Pac's just keeping the pace and not to overwork himself.
Clottey may have waited for that lucky punch (his counter is always good, but not enough) but in the end, Pac wasn't exactly needing an oxygen tank.
Either that or Floyd doesn't have enough pop to back up or even discourage Pac from coming in and Floyd gets out worked on the cards or can't handle the pressure and gets stopped......we just have to wait and see who can make their game plan stick if the fight ever happens.
Floyd wants to be pressured he wants to be backed up,
Manny needs to try keep Floyd in the middle of the ring......
if you think pac would used the same tactic he used on clottey against PBF, i don't want to hear your insights anymore.. :D
Everyone knows they picked Clottey because he is a good defense boxer,
With a good right hand, Okay is defense is nothing alike nor is his boxing style,
But who else in the Welterweight division is like Floyd?
They where hardly gonna pick a fight with Steve Forbes......
Well then you are eventually gonna run into trouble,
Unless Manny tightens up his defense and starts to move his head Mayweather will make mince meat of him, Once he gets his timing right
if you think pac would used the same tactic he used on clottey against PBF, i don't want to hear your insights anymore.. :D
PPL don't get excited about a guy who it going to block, slip, grab, and run for much of the fight.
Its not the most tactical game plan but with his attributes it gets the job done for the most part and generally leaves fans entertained.
Well then you are eventually gonna run into trouble,
Unless Manny tightens up his defense and starts to move his head Mayweather will make mince meat of him, Once he gets his timing right