first off... im a student, teacher, and fan of the game... and what im about to say are just my opinions... but
compare the pictures of pac... fighting against cotto... then fighting against clottey... and pac sure doesnt look as defined and ripped as the cotto fight... agreed?
IF HE IS JUICING...
maybe since everyone was "keeping an eye on him" with this whole ped mess about him... he couldnt take the sufficent amount to make him as big as the cotto fight... let me stop there
im not saying hes taking peds... but just go compare the pictures... he was def not taking the same type of supplements for the clottey fight as the cottos..
at the end of the clottey fight... pac looked like he shrunk back to a lightweight...
so im not asking pac what the hell hes on... im asking what he WASNT on in the clottey fight that he was in the cotto fight...
(i apologize ahead of time for not putting any pics up... i dont know how to)
to the people that r quick to say stfu and this that and the third... i cant hear ya...
but thanks to the people that gave some opinions about lighting and stuff... i can believe that....
some people r quick to think im a pac hater... thats not what i am... im just an individual that voices my opinions... but people comming at me everytime i put something on nsb is really discouraging... thats y i stay on t&n for the most part...
anyways... ive also mentioned how at the end of both fights... pac looked so much smaller in the clottey fight as well compared to the cottos... obviously hes thrown a lot more punches in the clottey fight... but he looked bout 10-15 lbs lighter... is this just another optical illusion on my behalf... still up for debate... thanks
I don't know---that would mean Pacquiao was 160-165 during his fight with Cotto and he didn't even appear to look bigger than Cotto.
to the people that r quick to say stfu and this that and the third... i cant hear ya...
but thanks to the people that gave some opinions about lighting and stuff... i can believe that....
some people r quick to think im a pac hater... thats not what i am... im just an individual that voices my opinions... but people comming at me everytime i put something on nsb is really discouraging... thats y i stay on t&n for the most part...
anyways... ive also mentioned how at the end of both fights... pac looked so much smaller in the clottey fight as well compared to the cottos... obviously hes thrown a lot more punches in the clottey fight... but he looked bout 10-15 lbs lighter... is this just another optical illusion on my behalf... still up for debate... thanks
Don't even try. Regardless of what you post, whether it makes sense or not, you'll be bashed.
No, Pac wasn't as defined in the Clottey fight. There could be a number of reasons why, but if you look at the photos and the weigh in's of both fights, you'll see the difference.
I don't see a difference not like what the TS is suggesting...all I know is Cotto has some shitty defense and cannot handle volume punchers.
also let me add...that pacq wasnt flexing and posing as he normally do...but yah, those to pics of pac standing next to clottey and the other next to cotto...pac looked the same size
He trained in the Philippines for the Cotto fight so I guess he got a tan . I suppose that made him appear more defined.
Cotto
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3517/4107785761257d860f99.jpg
Clottey
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6250/img63.jpg
Don't even try. Regardless of what you post, whether it makes sense or not, you'll be bashed.
No, Pac wasn't as defined in the Clottey fight. There could be a number of reasons why, but if you look at the photos and the weigh in's of both fights, you'll see the difference.
first off... im a student, teacher, and fan of the game... and what im about to say are just my opinions... but
compare the pictures of pac... fighting against cotto... then fighting against clottey... and pac sure doesnt look as defined and ripped as the cotto fight... agreed?
IF HE IS JUICING...
maybe since everyone was "keeping an eye on him" with this whole ped mess about him... he couldnt take the sufficent amount to make him as big as the cotto fight... let me stop there
im not saying hes taking peds... but just go compare the pictures... he was def not taking the same type of supplements for the clottey fight as the cottos..
at the end of the clottey fight... pac looked like he shrunk back to a lightweight...
so im not asking pac what the hell hes on... im asking what he WASNT on in the clottey fight that he was in the cotto fight...
(i apologize ahead of time for not putting any pics up... i dont know how to)
if it looked like to you that pac wasnt on what ever it was against cotto...and yet beat clottey the way he beat delahoya and cotto...then i guess with or with PED, pac had beaten these guy the same way.
tbf to the OP, Manny didn't look as ripped or as big as previous fights, however I am putting this down to perspective as Clottey looked huge in comparison.
Looks like the same fuucking guy moron
http://www8.gmanews.tv/webpics/infotech/pac%20clottey%20weigh%20in%20ap.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vW2N1uNB_tU/Sv3_jwVd10I/AAAAAAAAAfI/gfLLVxoyIX8/s640/pacquiao-cotto-weigh-in-results-photos05.jpg
Cotto looks more ripped than Pac at their weigh in.
Looks like the same fuucking guy moron
http://www8.gmanews.tv/webpics/infotech/pac%20clottey%20weigh%20in%20ap.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vW2N1uNB_tU/Sv3_jwVd10I/AAAAAAAAAfI/gfLLVxoyIX8/s640/pacquiao-cotto-weigh-in-results-photos05.jpg
what i told him. indoor lighting created the effect.
naw im not an idiot.. but i dont know nothing about computers.... but dont let that have an effect on what u think about me... listen to my directions..
looks at pac in the weigh ins against cotto... then clottey... what physical differences do u see?
Bro good luck trying to tell any of these Manny Fagiao fans anything about their savior.. Extremely biased, you wont be able to get your point across... However, I do see your point, and never thought myself to compare the pictures... Interesting, thank you for shedding new light on this overplayed subject!
He trained in the Philippines for the Cotto fight so I guess he got a tan . I suppose that made him appear more defined.
Cotto
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3517/4107785761257d860f99.jpg
Clottey
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6250/img63.jpg
nothing. it's just the lighting. weighin was outdoors i believe in clottey fight. the cotto was indoors so overhead lights can cast shadows giving the ripped effect more.
that and just about anyone would look less defined standing next to clottey who is fookin massive at 147. Even Miguel Cotto who was bigger than pacquiao for their fight looked tiny and fat standing next to clottey during the weighin.