I don't have the patience to watch their match right now, but i'm interested in knowing how Clottey beat Zab Judah?
I'm interested since Flomos pointed out before that Zab was a good way to simulate Pacquiao's speed. In that case, does Clottey know how to deal with speedsters? How?
discuss. :)
Early in the fight, Clottey shelled up and only threw straight rights that caught zab, while zab was throwing jabs that were blocked, but good body shots. This continued until round 5 when zab dug deep and really opened up on the defensive clottey. In round 6 or 7, Clottey sensesd zab had finally gotten tired, and began to throw not many combinations, but more frequent hard shots, but zab answered at the last 30 seconds of the round, and had clottey on the robes tryna block punches everywhere. Finally, his hard ass shots led to an uppercut landed that cut judah in round 8, and judah thought he was ahead on the cards and quit. It was actualy a great fight, but clottey fought defensively, bt he has every skill in boxing.
i don't think they put blocked punches on highlight reels and if they do then zab has some pretty crappy highlight reels.
Nah man he was connecting, he was mixing it up from the body to thead and back but just didnt have that pop
only reason Baldo hurt Zab was because Zab didnt train at all for that fight. If Don King hadnt had Zab out late nights and early mornings promoting the bout then he wouldve had much more time in the gym and wouldve destroyed baldo in a way better fashion than mayweather.
Zab shouldve had a W for Baldo too, that was a one sided fight with the exception of the knockdown. Zab was clearly the better fighter
what knockdown? he clearly lost because after he got staggered he didn't engage the rest of the fight. one sided hmmm ok i don't think you've seen it though........
Cmon man, look at it from an actual tactical point of view.
IMHO I felt Zab won the fight. He outboxed Clottey the first 4 rounds and won rounds here and there till the 9th. CLottey caused a bad cut over Zabs eye with a punch but the ref ruled it by way of a headbutt. Zab was real elusive and outboxed Clottey left and right. CLottey however was gaining some momentum and couldve possibly broken Zab down in the later rounds as is the regular routine with Zab Judah and bigger stronger opponents.
Zab couldnt really hurt Clottey but had some very impressive hand speed footwork and clocked Clottey with highlight real 5-7 punch combos at a time.
Zab only came in at 143lbs in the weigh in. He didnt have that true welterweight strength.
it went to a decision in favor of Clottey.
Pretty much if the Pac camp studied that fight they will blow Clottey away. Pacquiaos style is taylor made for Clottey. Clottey rarely moves when getting hit and concentrates too much on covering up. Pacquiao has the same handspeed and footspeed as Zab but packs way more of a punch and lands much cleaner.
i don't think they put blocked punches on highlight reels and if they do then zab has some pretty crappy highlight reels.
clottey cut zab..and zab quit thinking he was up on the scorecards
Clottey won the first few rounds, then I believe Zab won a few, Clottey was basically overpowering Zab, hurting him some, Zab landed cleanly some but never hurt Clottey, then Clottey busted him open good with a punch, ref ruled it a headbut, went to cards, Clottey wins.
Typical Zab started well and Clottey started to get to him...Clottey started whooping dat ass and then cut Zab...Zab gambled on hoping he had a lead on the cards, which he didn't....
This is really Clottey's best win...which is part of the reason I see no way he can beat Pacquiao. Clottey doesn't work enough and doesn't do anything spectacular...
Well despite his low KO ratio, Clottey did manage to make Margarito's face swollen, so anything can still happen, he is a big welter compared to an overblown JWW in Pac.
I don't know, but i got a feeling that Pacquiao will showboat a bit like he did in MAB II, and Larios, which i don't want to happen since i want to see a mid-late stoppage.
Cmon man, look at it from an actual tactical point of view.
IMHO I felt Zab won the fight. He outboxed Clottey the first 4 rounds and won rounds here and there till the 9th. CLottey caused a bad cut over Zabs eye with a punch but the ref ruled it by way of a headbutt. Zab was real elusive and outboxed Clottey left and right. CLottey however was gaining some momentum and couldve possibly broken Zab down in the later rounds as is the regular routine with Zab Judah and bigger stronger opponents.
Zab couldnt really hurt Clottey but had some very impressive hand speed footwork and clocked Clottey with highlight real 5-7 punch combos at a time.
Zab only came in at 143lbs in the weigh in. He didnt have that true welterweight strength.
it went to a decision in favor of Clottey.
Pretty much if the Pac camp studied that fight they will blow Clottey away. Pacquiaos style is taylor made for Clottey. Clottey rarely moves when getting hit and concentrates too much on covering up. Pacquiao has the same handspeed and footspeed as Zab but packs way more of a punch and lands much cleaner.
Thanks, you make me think the fight is good enough to warrant a replay later. I pity Zab, he has great speed, and i think he's good enough to roll at JWW right now, pity that he's known to be mentally fragile.
Funny that a few months ago some posters were saying Zab was more precise than Pac.
Typical Zab started well and Clottey started to get to him...Clottey started whooping dat ass and then cut Zab...Zab gambled on hoping he had a lead on the cards, which he didn't....
This is really Clottey's best win...which is part of the reason I see no way he can beat Pacquiao. Clottey doesn't work enough and doesn't do anything spectacular...
remember whn baldo dazed judah..judah just ran around the damn ring for the rest of the round patting his head
only reason Baldo hurt Zab was because Zab didnt train at all for that fight. If Don King hadnt had Zab out late nights and early mornings promoting the bout then he wouldve had much more time in the gym and wouldve destroyed baldo in a way better fashion than mayweather.
Zab shouldve had a W for Baldo too, that was a one sided fight with the exception of the knockdown. Zab was clearly the better fighter
I don't have the patience to watch their match right now, but i'm interested in knowing how Clottey beat Zab Judah?
I'm interested since Flomos pointed out before that Zab was a good way to simulate Pacquiao's speed. In that case, does Clottey know how to deal with speedsters? How?
discuss. :)
Cmon man, look at it from an actual tactical point of view.
IMHO I felt Zab won the fight. He outboxed Clottey the first 4 rounds and won rounds here and there till the 9th. CLottey caused a bad cut over Zabs eye with a punch but the ref ruled it by way of a headbutt. Zab was real elusive and outboxed Clottey left and right. CLottey however was gaining some momentum and couldve possibly broken Zab down in the later rounds as is the regular routine with Zab Judah and bigger stronger opponents.
Zab couldnt really hurt Clottey but had some very impressive hand speed footwork and clocked Clottey with highlight real 5-7 punch combos at a time.
Zab only came in at 143lbs in the weigh in. He didnt have that true welterweight strength.
it went to a decision in favor of Clottey.
Pretty much if the Pac camp studied that fight they will blow Clottey away. Pacquiaos style is taylor made for Clottey. Clottey rarely moves when getting hit and concentrates too much on covering up. Pacquiao has the same handspeed and footspeed as Zab but packs way more of a punch and lands much cleaner.
He rightfully TKO'd him by cut, but it was ruled a TD on a headbutt. Clottey stayed patient while Zab punched himself out against his guard, then took over.
Damn, should have been a TKO for Clottey. At least i know Clottey doesn't give up on speedy fighters, he's patient enough.
I hope tomorrow's fight won't be stopped due to headbutts, i say let the action go as long as both are still standing.
:nonono: ever heard of boxrec?
Yeah i checked boxrec before posting, it says TD win. i obviously haven't seen the fight, so what's wrong with asking for extra input? last time i checked this is a forum.
He rightfully TKO'd him by cut, but it was ruled a TD on a headbutt. Clottey stayed patient while Zab punched himself out against his guard, then took over.
clottey cut zab..and zab quit thinking he was up on the scorecards
Zab has no heart---once he gets hit a few times, he runs like a crying girl and starts backing up. One more thing, he needs to freakin' put his hands up!!!!