i believe this is good, us Mexicans need more competition and rivalries. the mexican vs puerto ricans is not old, but pickings are slim. should be great battles in the future.
Mostly local and never had given the opportunity to go to the U.S.
BUT there are a few who did. In the 80's it was Rolando Navarette and in the 90's it was Luisito Espinosa.
Locally (or Asian realm) I was a big fan of Pretty Boy Lucas. Then there's the Penalosa brothers, Morris East and Rolando Bohol.
Morris East was pretty popular in japan for a time. even gave him a cameo appearance in a japanese anime about boxing and put him in the video game based on that series.
before now what pinoy superstars were out there? i've been a fighter/fan since 1980 and the only real one is pac. now there are all kinds of pinoys going for it. i'm just saying pac trully opened the door, its more the evident
well thats what i ment bro!!!!!!!!!
Ok my bad. got confused by the context of your wording.
Philippines will always be well behind mexico and puerto rico as long as they remain a 3rd world country. fighters are in too big of a rush to step up and land pay days and trainers/managers/promoters are all too greedy and naive to bring their fighters along properly.
Pac-mania did not "bring" alot of pinoy boxers to the sweet science.
There have always been plenty of filipino fighters in the game. The 1st filipino world champion was world champion before the 1st mexican world champion.
What Pac-mania did was allow filipino fighters the opportunity to share the spotlight with their mexican and puerto rican counterparts and establish themselves as a powerhouse in the sport as far as talent pool goes.
well thats what i ment bro!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, someone here mentioned that the Philippines have been boxing longer than Mexico. It's always been popular, they just never really had the proper training or funds.
Philippines' only Olympic medals in history:
Bronze Teofilo Yldefonso 1928 Amsterdam Swimming Men's 400 metre breaststroke
Bronze Simeon Toribio 1932 Los Angeles Athletics Men's high jump
Bronze José Villanueva 1932 Los Angeles Boxing Men's bantamweight
Bronze Teofilo Yldefonso 1932 Los Angeles Swimming Men's 200 metre breaststroke
Bronze Miguel White 1936 Berlin Athletics Men's 400 metre hurdles
Silver Anthony Villanueva 1964 Tokyo Boxing Men's featherweight
Bronze Leopoldo Serantes 1988 Seoul Boxing Men's light flyweight
Bronze Roel Velasco 1992 Barcelona Boxing Men's light flyweight
Silver Mansueto Velasco 1996 Atlanta Boxing Men's light flyweight
Anthony Villanueva got robbed too fighting that one Russian dude. From what I heard, politics and favoritism during the Cold War got in the way.
For the Beijing 2008 Olympics, the Philippines only sent one guy for boxing. But this time, their assembling a team together and might make their mark in the next olympics.
That should have been their 1st gold medal. Dude got straight up robbed. I wonder why he never turned pro.
local stardom happened. Maybe Velasco was too old to start boxing pro at the time?
lol pacmania never influenced me shit on boxing....
only mexican boxers give me interest in boxing like barrera, marquez and now soto :boxing:
haha, Tyson, DLH and Luisito Espinosa got me following boxing. :)
Yeah, someone here mentioned that the Philippines have been boxing longer than Mexico. It's always been popular, they just never really had the proper training or funds.
Philippines' only Olympic medals in history:
Bronze Teofilo Yldefonso 1928 Amsterdam Swimming Men's 400 metre breaststroke
Bronze Simeon Toribio 1932 Los Angeles Athletics Men's high jump
Bronze José Villanueva 1932 Los Angeles Boxing Men's bantamweight
Bronze Teofilo Yldefonso 1932 Los Angeles Swimming Men's 200 metre breaststroke
Bronze Miguel White 1936 Berlin Athletics Men's 400 metre hurdles
Silver Anthony Villanueva 1964 Tokyo Boxing Men's featherweight
Bronze Leopoldo Serantes 1988 Seoul Boxing Men's light flyweight
Bronze Roel Velasco 1992 Barcelona Boxing Men's light flyweight
Silver Mansueto Velasco 1996 Atlanta Boxing Men's light flyweight
That should have been their 1st gold medal. Dude got straight up robbed. I wonder why he never turned pro.
Yeah, someone here mentioned that the Philippines have been boxing longer than Mexico. It's always been popular, they just never really had the proper training or funds.
Philippines' only Olympic medals in history:
Bronze Teofilo Yldefonso 1928 Amsterdam Swimming Men's 400 metre breaststroke
Bronze Simeon Toribio 1932 Los Angeles Athletics Men's high jump
Bronze José Villanueva 1932 Los Angeles Boxing Men's bantamweight
Bronze Teofilo Yldefonso 1932 Los Angeles Swimming Men's 200 metre breaststroke
Bronze Miguel White 1936 Berlin Athletics Men's 400 metre hurdles
Silver Anthony Villanueva 1964 Tokyo Boxing Men's featherweight
Bronze Leopoldo Serantes 1988 Seoul Boxing Men's light flyweight
Bronze Roel Velasco 1992 Barcelona Boxing Men's light flyweight
Silver Mansueto Velasco 1996 Atlanta Boxing Men's light flyweight
yes he did..now they should take their time and learn the sport and read up on other boxers
you make it sound like they're fish out of water or minor league players in the big leagues. these are not their problems.
Their problems are economical, not technical. The career of a fighter is short enough as it is. add living in a 3rd world country on top of that. the problem is that fighters get pushed to step up competition and get lured by that big payday to put food on the table before they're ready. Greedy filipino managers and trainers eager to put their gym in the limelight and cash in on a quick draw while it's hot doesnt help either.
Pac-mania did not "bring" alot of pinoy boxers to the sweet science.
There have always been plenty of filipino fighters in the game. The 1st filipino world champion was world champion before the 1st mexican world champion.
What Pac-mania did was allow filipino fighters the opportunity to share the spotlight with their mexican and puerto rican counterparts and establish themselves as a powerhouse in the sport as far as talent pool goes.
Amen. and as long as casual filipino fans let young filipino boxers develop on their own accord and not expect them to all become speedy boxer-punchers like Pac, then we're all set. :)
i believe this is good, us Mexicans need more competition and rivalries. the mexican vs puerto ricans is not old, but pickings are slim. should be great battles in the future.
Pac-mania did not "bring" alot of pinoy boxers to the sweet science.
There have always been plenty of filipino fighters in the game. The 1st filipino world champion was world champion before the 1st mexican world champion.
What Pac-mania did was allow filipino fighters the opportunity to share the spotlight with their mexican and puerto rican counterparts and establish themselves as a powerhouse in the sport as far as talent pool goes.
I think its great for boxing to see more rivalries too. But I don't see the rivalries for Pinoys getting into full swing until they can receive proper training. The Philippines doesn't have the world class gyms and trainers for boxing yet.
no other replys? there was a good fight on fox sports with a mexican and a pinoy. the pinoy won but both fighter went to the 12th and is was fun to watch. anyone else see it?