Is Joe Calzaghe an all-time great?

I can't wait to see what Joe says about this...

Considering the 168 Pound weight class has only been around since 1989 thats not a good feat. That divison best fighters ever are Benn, Jones Jr, Ottke, etc... Hes not an ATG. I agree... He'll go down as an HOF but nowhere near an ATG

No. He didnt do enough. He didnt fight the best either.

People go on about "ATGs" as if they can be arsed compiling a list. Calzaghe was one of the top fighters of his era. Thats all you can really say. No fighter in this era can come close to achieving what the greats of the previous eras did

i meant top 50 ATG, by the way if we are talking top 100 ATG than maybe in the 90 to 100 area , but I still probably wouldn't have him in there , but it wouldn't bother me too much either.

the fact that over 40% of the people that answered the poll said yes, really worries me on the intelligence of poster's on this site. His two biggest wins are a 40+years old hopkins, a way over the hill roy jones, both which were terrible fights, kessler, who i think is very good, and that was a very good fight, and probably jeff lacy, who sucks. In my opinion the only impressive win on his resume is Kessler, and I like kessler but he is not great by any means. The only way calzaghe could have been a top 20 all time great is if he came back to enter the super 6 and cleaned it out. The division now is way better than we he was fighting in it. I think in joe's prime he would lose to Ward and Abraham, and possibly others like dirrell, jermain taylor in prime, kelly pavlik. So NO, i do not think he is an all time great, he cared way too much about retiring with a perfect record, ATG's fight the great fighter's of their era, for instance when he moved to light heavy he would have fought chad dawson and not hopkins and jones, and fighting kelly pavlik, who at the time was kicking ass , that would have been impressive.

Yeah, why not. I have no problem with anyone who considers Calzaghe an ATG, but if we're talking top 100 then he's at the tail end of it. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Only if he had beaten Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya. And Robert Allen.

Fuck no he isn't. Pulling out of fights against dangerous opposition with chipped finger nails is something that Armstrong or Robinson never did.

Hall of famer, but not an ATG.

I think yes.

I'm a fan of him, but HOF possibly, he should be in my eyes but there are some questions. As for ATG, no. This is due to waitor liquor making me realise that ATG and HOF is not easy to get into.

I think a good limit to judge whether a fighter is an all-time great would be the top 50. It's up to you, though. It's not a top 50...in my opinion

imo yes but i can see why people say otherwise

in this era he did do great things but....all time?? im not sure, i wouldnt argue if someone felt like he is an ATG though.

So funny the way Jeff Lacy was built up to beat Joe and he got humiliated. No one could beat Joe. He'd still be undefeated now if he was fighting. An incredible achievement and one that automatically qualifies a fighter as an ATG. I think pretty much everyone I've met who's in boxing and who knows about boxing acknowledges this.

Beating the second best fighter in the division, when you're number one, isn't a great win? Please.. Depends on who the second best fighter is.

Great? No. Beating the second best fighter in the division, when you're number one, isn't a great win? Please..

True, but it was still a great win. Great? No.

Kessler was never top ten. True, but it was still a great win.