Not in terms of country or personality. Im talking status.
Mayweather- Guillermo Rigondeaux
Pacquiao- Gamboa
I think Juan Manuel Lopez and Gamboa are lookin like the next superstars.
you know what? i'll give it to rigo as far as having that potential to be the next floyd---he does have a lot of skill, he's a southpaw, so he could be, i don't think he'll achieve as much as floyd in the short amount of time though---he's a very skilled fighter though---
n0 fighter right now is the next either one of them--that's how special they both are----i don't see another floyd for many years---i remind myself of floyd the most when it comes to his skillset---but that's how i was always trained--as a technician in the ring, the only difference is i'm a southpaw, this is why i can break down floyd's style so easily and i have been able to do so through each of his weight classes, because i fight just like him, and i was introduced to the shoulder roll when i was 4, i used to do in class for show and tell, and people looked at me like was crazy.lol..--professionally, i don't see a bradley, or dirrell, or a forbes, or even calderon as the next mayweather--they have some attributes in their skillset that compares to him, but he's a complete fighter, they're not---
as far as pac, it's hard to determine how long it'll take a fighter to reach his status, he's won over so many people in such a short amount of time---his skillset has actually improves through the years, and they improved fast, so it's going to be a long time before we see anybody achieve what he has done, especially without an amateur career--that speaks greatness---and take it from me, i don't like manny pacman's skillset, i don't ever see himm even coming close to beating floyd mayweather jr, and i can't really stomach you pacrats, but i can't deny how special a fighter this kid is, and i always pay respect to greatness--and manny has more than proved how great he is...
so as far as the next floyd or manny----besides myself as the southpaw version of floyd currently, and for the last 18 years of my life, i don't see it---it's quite possible that some of you guys on here have a better chance at achieving that goal than any fighters professionally right now---and, while we're on this subject, i have my own persona in boxing, they used to call me speedy, and currently they call me hollywood, even though i am a 23 year old trainer, who should be pro right now, but decided to fall back on the sport after watching my father in his words, "experiment" with hardcore drugs, and basically ****ing his life up while i watched---and i hate to give you guys my sob story when it isn't really about me when it comes to this thread, but i figured i'd give a guys a closer look at my boxing history---i went 27-0 as an amateur and i was approached to go pro after those short amounts of fights, of course i wanted to go to the olympics and win a medal, but i stopped fighting after my dad almost killed himself with drugs, so i couldn't prove how like floyd i was, because i chose to go back to school...now i'm a trainer, who still trains himself like he has a fight coming up----pray for me folks---anyway--i went off on a tangen, i apologize, but don't think when i make long posts about floyd's style or any fighter's style in the ring, that i'm just posting nonsense---i know this sport, and floyd and manny are the premeire fighters of their eras----of course floyd is going to whoop manny's ass after shane---but manny is amazing, will always be---floyd is the greatest fighter of the last 4 decades imo---he's that dominant in the ring--makes it look easy--he's broken records in compubox, and he will break more records in the p4p rankings---he could have done so already had he not taken time off---but it is what it is----
gamboa and ringondeaux are really really good. but there are a few other guys who are under 10 fights that are very very similar---cant remember the names as when i heard the names it was for the first time.
some serious talent out there right now in the lower weights---some guys not known yet but give it a year or two---who said boxing is dead?
in terms of style
floyd = alexander
pac = rigideaux
Rigondeaux is wayyy to skilled to be compared to Pac. Rigondeaux as of today is more skilled then Pac.
Not in terms of country or personality. Im talking status.
Mayweather- Guillermo Rigondeaux
Pacquiao- Gamboa
in terms of style
floyd = alexander
pac = rigideaux
I wasn't for a while either but he's starting to win me over. He's no where near as one dimensional as I first thought. Similar to Pacquiao, he actually has a lot of highly effective technical subtleties and nuances that he uses while on the front foot - which is one of the most difficult things to perfect in boxing.
His defense is a little bit worrying but he has great instincts and reflexes and also is very quick on his feet so there's definitely room to grow there.
I honestly believe he would beat Timothy Bradley if they were to fight now - providing he looks deadly as ever against Peterson.
As for Rigondeaux, I've been watching as much of his amateur fights as possible lately and he's fucking amazing - a complete boxer. We just have to see how he deals with adversity and hope he has enough time in his career to achieve everything he should do.
Yes Rigo is not from this planet. His skills are crazy.
I respectfully disagree, Mayweather- Tim Bradley
Manny- Still to be determined.[/QUO
He could change later in his career, but at this point Bradley is a hell of a lot more agressive than Floyd, he is more like Paq without the power. He is still a very entertaining fighter though, and I feel like the right coach could teach him how to put more pop in his punches.
BTW, Valero isn't anything special, i'm really not buying into the Valero hype
I wasn't for a while either but he's starting to win me over. He's no where near as one dimensional as I first thought. Similar to Pacquiao, he actually has a lot of highly effective technical subtleties and nuances that he uses while on the front foot - which is one of the most difficult things to perfect in boxing.
His defense is a little bit worrying but he has great instincts and reflexes and also is very quick on his feet so there's definitely room to grow there.
I honestly believe he would beat Timothy Bradley if they were to fight now - providing he looks deadly as ever against Peterson.
As for Rigondeaux, I've been watching as much of his amateur fights as possible lately and he's fucking amazing - a complete boxer. We just have to see how he deals with adversity and hope he has enough time in his career to achieve everything he should do.
Lets not forget Pacquiao has 3 loses, 2 of which by KaYO and 2 draws, one of which against an opponent with 9 loses in Agapito Sanchez.
Pretty f*cking cool how he bounces back and becomes fighter of the decade then, right?
The true champ is the one who comes back stronger.
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I think the Valero/Pacquiao comparison is fairly obvious.
As for Floyd, there are a couple people who may be able to take that role but we'll have to see who rises to the top and who faulters as they step up in class. The fighters I'm thinking of are Andre Ward, Guillermo Rigondeaux (who could be just as good as Floyd if not better if he fully adapts to the pro game judging by his amateur career), Andre Dirrell or even as someone said earlier, Timothy Bradley, although I personally have my reservations about that pick.
Yep, Rigo has the potential to be better than Floyd, and this is coming from somebody who rates Floyd very highly
BTW, Valero isn't anything special, i'm really not buying into the Valero hype
I think the Valero/Pacquiao comparison is fairly obvious.
As for Floyd, there are a couple people who may be able to take that role but we'll have to see who rises to the top and who faulters as they step up in class. The fighters I'm thinking of are Andre Ward, Guillermo Rigondeaux (who could be just as good as Floyd if not better if he fully adapts to the pro game judging by his amateur career), Andre Dirrell or even as someone said earlier, Timothy Bradley, although I personally have my reservations about that pick.
Bradley ehhh I could see that. But Rigondeaux's skill set is nuts. Hes like a Left handed Floyd.
Yeah I agree with you. Gamboa is sick too, especially if he can tighten up his defense a bit. Them cubans are sick boxers.
WOW you actually compared Gamboa to Pac SMH. Gamboa is more like Roy jones. I really don't know, but I think boxing is in alright hands with our future stars.
Yeah hes 28. Its time to hit the gas while he still has those insane reflexes. I keep hearing hes suppose to fight Caballero for his belt. Who do you have in that fight if it goes down this year?
It's a toss up IMO. If you put a gun to my head, and told me to make up my mind, the I would say rigondeaux.
yes he will and hopefully his team manages him carefully over the next two years so he won't get exposed. I fear they will due to him being in his late 20's and them wanted to take advantage of his physical prime years.
Yeah hes 28. Its time to hit the gas while he still has those insane reflexes. I keep hearing hes suppose to fight Caballero for his belt. Who do you have in that fight if it goes down this year?
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