Ice's random results section...

for the person who asked about the current amateur scene, I know that here in Connecticut we have two VERY talented olymic hopefuls in Toka Khan Cleary (132 from Providence) and Tremaine Wiliams (123 from Connectocut)... Considering its size,Providence has been producing quite a few world class amateurs lately.

for the person who asked about the current amateur scene, I know that here in Connecticut we have two VERY talented olymic hopefuls in Toka Khan Cleary (132 from Providence) and Tremaine Wiliams (123 from Connectocut)...

sorry so late to reply...I've heard that about Lopez but there is no way to really verify that, though...in any event, he turned pro at a young age so if he was unbeaten it likely wasn't a record compiled against elite amateurs...

Was Ricardo Lopez really undefeated as an amateur? You still following the amateurs right now? Who's someone to look out for in the future? Great thread btw.

Chad Dawson defeated Dmitriy Salita twice when they were in the JO's (age 15 and under)...one of them was at 132 pounds I remember...

A kid from Mississippi named LOUIS CALLAHAN beat Roy Jones Jr. twice when they were 13 years old...

Roy Jones Jr. defeated Antonio Tarver at the Florida Sunshine State Games when they were about 13...

Thanks my man...2 thumbs up...I LIKE IT LOL

Fantastic thread http://threadbombing.com/data/media/22/double_thumbs_up.gif

Craig Payne, Ernie Bennet, Henry Tillman and Al Evans all defeated Mike Tyson in the amateurs...

Eric "The Energizer" Fagan of Providence never turned pro...he's still only about 28 years old now...sored amateur victories over the likes of Mike Oliver, Chad Dawson and Brian Viloria...

I remember Pernell Whitaker saying Johnny Bumphus was the best...another guy said Bernard Taylor...Paul Gonzalez...none of them dominated a weight class like Mark did, though...I have heard lots of different tally's for guys, usually 154-2, crazy stuff like that...hard to really say what is accurate...Breland's was not hard to figure, though, because with only one loss being claimed, I am sure that if someone else beat him they would stand up and mention it...you get another guy saying he was 163-4 as an amateur, well, there might be 11 guys out there thinking there were one of the four LOL...me, personally, I would like to see a guy have AT LEAST 50 amateur fights and some national experience underneath his belt before going pro...at least 20 years old, too... thanks for the reply, i forgot about this lol appreciate it ice

whose the best usa amateur u saw live or just heard about apart from breland do u know the amateur records of guys like don curry meldrick taylor ray leonard and when do u think its time for a young fighter to turn over to the pro ranks - age and experience wise? I remember Pernell Whitaker saying Johnny Bumphus was the best...another guy said Bernard Taylor...Paul Gonzalez...none of them dominated a weight class like Mark did, though...I have heard lots of different tally's for guys, usually 154-2, crazy stuff like that...hard to really say what is accurate...Breland's was not hard to figure, though, because with only one loss being claimed, I am sure that if someone else beat him they would stand up and mention it...you get another guy saying he was 163-4 as an amateur, well, there might be 11 guys out there thinking there were one of the four LOL...me, personally, I would like to see a guy have AT LEAST 50 amateur fights and some national experience underneath his belt before going pro...at least 20 years old, too...

Marlon Starling boxed in the local Golden Gloves here 5 years in a row (1975-1979) and lost in three of them, to Kevin Rooney, Felix Nance and Wilbur Cameron whose the best usa amateur u saw live or just heard about apart from breland do u know the amateur records of guys like don curry meldrick taylor ray leonard and when do u think its time for a young fighter to turn over to the pro ranks - age and experience wise?

Marlon Starling boxed in the local Golden Gloves here 5 years in a row (1975-1979) and lost in three of them, to Kevin Rooney, Felix Nance and Wilbur Cameron

whats the info on tyson getting stopped? Tyson got stopped at the 1982 US Championships by Al Evans of Chicago

I remember Robert Salters. I fought with a guy, Kermit Fitzpatrick, who lost to him in the national finals. I think that it Golden Gloves but it could have been the ABFs in '88, or maybe it was the trials. lol............Rockin':boxing: I was there for that fight, it was the 88 ABF's...I also saw Kermit at the 1986 nationals in Iowa...

Didn't Woody Clark beat Greg Page in the 1976 Eastern Olympic Trials, flooring him twice en route to a decision? Not sure about that one...sorry SO LONG TO respond...Woody was a really good amateur though, huh???

Didn't Woody Clark beat Greg Page in the 1976 Eastern Olympic Trials, flooring him twice en route to a decision?

whats the info on tyson getting stopped?