Professional Athlete Tests Positive for HGH!!!!

because there's something called the weighin. where fighters already drain themselves to a certain degree to make weight. Taking blood before the weighin could lead to further dehydration and/or could lead to a fighter who's actually overweight to making weight because of the lost bloodweight. two tablespoons of blood r not going to help u make weight numb nuts... amateur hour

There goes Freddie Roach's excuse that Olympic testing is useless at detecting HGH

http://fighthype.com/pages/content7008.html A good read.....particularly the last sentance......which is why every boxing fan should support what Mayweather is proposing....... Boxing needs to contract out it's testing to WADA or the USADA....this gives boxing instant credibility and avoids conflicts of interest... nice read... the commission needs to address this right now... side note: I wonder how pacs doing during his 3 day rest since he just had blood drawn the other day... since it makes him weak you know he is taking a few days off from training, lmao

I don't blame Roach and pac for refusing this test, it is not required by the comission that governs boxing and until it is, he should not have to adhere to this just to appease Floyd. if Floyd has a problem with this he should make an appeal to the comission, and if they deem this necessary nthan so be it. Until than he should shut the f**k up and color. No one man is bigger than the sport and floyd is not the one to implement this. I don't want to hear anything about Shane being willing to submit to this: First Shane has proven to be positive of PED's in the past. Second he has no choice, and he would agree to anything to get a major fight. Shane unlike Manny has no other options, and once again has already tested positive. Don't get me wrong I like Shane but in his position it is not as outrageous. That being said if he refused it I would not hate on him because once again it is not required by the comission. The comission is the only one with the ability to implement change not Floyd!!!!!! They initially agreed to the OST. I don't know why people like to leave that FACT out. Well, yea, I do know.

Contracts? Why not go to the Commision to make it mandatory even just for Championship bouts? See? Man do you understand how many Comiisions there are? Do you understand how many fights are held a year? Do you understand that Boxing isnt just held in Nevada? Uk? Mexico? Spain? Russia? etc.... Get real. They not making that mandatory. Like I said it start with the boxers.

Manny (Fresh) pacquiao is a juicer!!!!!!

because there's something called the weighin. where fighters already drain themselves to a certain degree to make weight. Taking blood before the weighin could lead to further dehydration and/or could lead to a fighter who's actually overweight to making weight because of the lost bloodweight. WOW at the bold!! Are you fvcking serious with this shit?? You think the amount of blood being taken is going to make a person lose weight if they are overweight??? This shit is truly sad :nonono::nonono:

most of my post was directed this part of yours so ummmm, this explains why team pac doesnt want random blood test but said they are cool with urine. that only makes them look worse but they think people are stupid. dude is juicing, plain and simple. defend him all you want but you are going to look dumb when the truth comes to light. through postive test, him admitting use, or his performance being so far off base people are going to see clear as day he was on performance enchancers started at Diaz through Cotto and potentially Clottey see... this is the reason why it is pointless having these discussions with you. You are already convinced Pac is juicing. And with just one post you say I am DEFENDING Pac? You have some issues man. If people accuse Floyd, JMM, Cotto of using illegal substance out of no PROOF or EVIDENCE... I will be at the same stand I am in now...UNLIKE YOU. If there's a white dude saying "Floyd must be juicing because he's won world titles in 5 different divisions... that can't be coz he's black" or if a white dude surpasses what Michael Jordan has done then a black dude said "White men can't jump...dude must be on something" YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT TO ANY ATHLETE duuuuude. They must be proven guilty before you brand them, you don't believe in skills. PEDs wont give you FOOTWORK, PEDs wont make you punch in ODD ANGLES, PEDs wont win you 4 lineals and 7 world titles in 7 weight divisions. IF THAT WAS SO EASY...MOSLEY WOULD HAVE DONE THAT, TONEY WOULD HAVE DONE THAT...AND VARGAS WOULD HAVE DONE THAT! YOU CAN GIVE RICKY HATTON ALL THE PEDS IN THIS WORLD AND STILL IT WONT MAKE HIM A CLASS "A" FIGHTER LIKE FLOYD JR.

Flomos think that the commission are idiots. Thats the bottom line of their own world.

It's not about any one man being bigger than the sport or any other bullshit......Pac fans should not defend him for not agreeing to Floyds stipulation. It does not matter why Floyd asked or what his intentions were. I don't care what the motivation was...... - He wanted a mental edge - He really does think Pac is on something and he wants to be sure before they fight that he is clean - He is afraid of Manny and hoped it would shit can the fight.... Whichever one of those you believe is irrelevant (as a side note if u believe the last one u need to get off Pacs nuts). As a fan of boxing you should want and demand the best drug testing protocols avaliable to make sure the sport of boxing is clean. This is a brutal sport, we can't have guys cheating, whether it is PED's or illegal wraps....Pac fans support for Pac refusing and their silly justifications just do not cut the mustard..... So floyds motivations to me are completely irrelevant........as a fan of boxing i ant it across the board for all fights and fighters....no excuses.....there is enough money in boxing to pay WADA it's required fee........ First of all I'm not a Pac nuthugger, just because I have a different opinion than you. Second I have no problem with the testing if it is routed throught the proper channles. If this is all of a sudden so important to Floyd like it never has been in any of his previous fights than he should take it up with the comission. If the comission makes this standard peocedure fine, I'm all for it but if he doesn't and tries to enforce it himslef than he shouldn't cry about it when it gets shot down, when it isn't mandatory. I'm all for making the sport as clean as possible but it should be done by the proper authorities, and mandated b y the comission not Floyd. Just because you want to ride Floyds nuts and defend his every move doesn't make my opinion any less valid than yours. That's why it's called an opinion.

Yeah I read that before. Its a good read. I think it starts with the boxer.s They shoulkd follow Floyds lead and implemented in the contracts. Contracts? Why not go to the Commision to make it mandatory even just for Championship bouts? See?

I agree, commision needs to change its protocols.. But i will never believe Floyd is a CRUSADER and wants to CLEAN up the sport... That is not true... The only reason he asked for random blood testing is that he thinks Pac is too good and extraordinary for a normal asian person. not because he thinks many boxers use PEDs or whatnot...

retard. its the best way to detect it. and obviously team pac knew as well, thats why they didnt want any blood drawn and wanted to give unlimited urine. b/c they know they cant fool blood test. Pac is blood-doping and his career is fabricated so im goign to said again, when has an athlete been accused of using PEDS and it not turn out to be true? 9 out 10's its always true IRONY... a retard accusing someone as a retard. HAHAHA! funny shit. When it's your man being thought of using it everyone who makes that statement a retard? And please take some reading comprehension first. Where in my post did i say that blood's not the best way to detect it? i just said that a breakthrough was done months ago and now they can detect it through urine, though it needs more studies. Kid can you do your homework first and type "NanotrapTM ESP Particles" on google. you might educate yourself regarding this matter than just blatantly branding a fighter guilty.

i dont care what anyone says, pacquiao is on something illegal... period. yeah its called hard work !

http://fighthype.com/pages/content7008.html A good read.....particularly the last sentance......which is why every boxing fan should support what Mayweather is proposing....... Boxing needs to contract out it's testing to WADA or the USADA....this gives boxing instant credibility and avoids conflicts of interest... wow it feels like I just went to HGH school......thanks for posting this :fing02:.....good stuff!

So many threads/posts/reactions to this issue. The commission must take this into consideration. I must say Pac and Floyd must agree to this and the only thing I see the Pacquiao camp agreeing is that if the commission requires it. Just a thought why Floyd Jr knew about HGH and the testing. Maybe he used this kind of drugs before...MAYBE. I'm not hating, it just crossed my mind after reading the article that hammerhiem posted. If Mayweather knew that HGH can only be detected through random blood testing which the commission does not require, and it cannot be detected through urine...Maybe...just maybe he took some in the past. Just a thought, not hating.

i see you edited your mistake......next time read the article before you post nonsense......RETARD uLOL you didnt even caught my post. Yeah my mistake. retard lol

Wouldn't it be better if fighters didn't drain themselves for an unfair advantage and fought at their natural weight class instead? Manny has shown that draining yourself isn't necessary to become a great fighter. wouldnt it be better if there was only 1 world champ per weight division instead of 4? i dont agree with fighters draining themselves to make a lower weight division but it's the norm in boxing and it's not an unfair advantage.

Seriously are you listening to yourself.......you give pac fans a bad name on here..... Thats a fact and documented. Again the Mayweathers are Drug Addicts. Did I hurt your feelings? LOLS

http://fighthype.com/pages/content7008.html A good read.....particularly the last sentance......which is why every boxing fan should support what Mayweather is proposing....... Boxing needs to contract out it's testing to WADA or the USADA....this gives boxing instant credibility and avoids conflicts of interest... Good read. Thanks for sharing it. So UKAD finally detected the 1st since that kind of testing was available. I wonder why the USADA hasn't yet. But now I believe they can detect HGH in urine, and this is good news. I just hope Pac and Floyd agree on something to make this fight. I don't want this fight happening when they are 40+yo