Even if Manny were to agree to take the tests now, Floyd has already thrown up the next roadblock for the fight: the split. Face it, Manny, he don't wanna fight you!
What does 7 division champ actually mean in this day and age when a guy like David Diaz can hold a belt???
IBO
IBF
WBC
WBO
WBA
In SRR day the WBC is the only one that mattered!!!!!!! To get a belt you likely had to go through some tough SOB to get it!!!!! So in relative terms is Pac's 7 better the SRR 5 or 6 (apologies i forgot how many).
And really he is a 6 weight champ. I have no problem with catchweights......however an ofiicial belt from a weight class should not be allowed to be fought for if u aren't allowed to weigh in at that weight limit. It's common sense not to allow it......just stop and think about how ludicous it really is!!!!
So you can slot Manny at top 5 when there are these names floating around......... names like this:
- SRR
- Duran
- Ali
- Foreman
- Lewis
- Marciano
- Liston
- Jack Johnson
- Sweet Pea
- Marvelous Mavin
- Thomas Hearns
- Henry Armstrong
- Kid Gavilan
- Carmen Basilio
- Willi Pep
- Benny Leonard
- Monzon
- Langford
- Arguellio
- Archie Moore
- Jack Dempsey
- JCC
- Tunney
- Tyson
- Holmes
- James Toney
- Harry Greb
Seriously and u can slot Manny at number 5. Floyd is my favourite active fighter right now.....and i can't even find a place in my top 15 or 20 for him yet.......he may get in if he can beat Shane............
WBC? The only fighter I know who proclaims that WbC is the only true belt is Pbf. I rank Wbc above the 3 other Org belts but no way is that true. I mean would you really put Berto above Mosley , Pac, Floyd (even without a belt). The belts are numerous and that is a problem but we boxing fans should be objective enough to know who the real champions are in a division.
With the exception at 135, Pac always fought the number 1 or number 2 of the division in which he became champion. Not bad don't you think?
And why are people taking this article as implying that pac is avoiding Floyd. If anything, the article is implying that he only wants Floyd then he will retire.
Well this time around I expect Pac to take the ridiculous useless blood test but still the coward gayweather will find another excuses to pussy out on this fight. Pac will retire greater than him while bankrupt Floyd still fighting old, blown up fighters to clear his debts.
The fight will happen soon... Floyd came back from retirement because of Pac dethroning his p4p king status. I think Floyd and his crying die hard fans is so jealous and will accept the challenge.
And for christ sake if this fight never happens the boxing world will collapse. That's foshou.
I know a fight will floyd or mosley will happen end of the year but my only problem is if PAC wins the election in May, things may change fast ....
The fight will happen soon... Floyd came back from retirement because of Pac dethroning his p4p king status. I think Floyd and his crying die hard fans is so jealous and will accept the challenge.
And for christ sake if this fight never happens the boxing world will collapse. That's foshou.
It seems odd that people are using this to infer that Pac doesn't want to fight FMJ.
Providing the report's true, he's clearly saying that he only wants to stay around in boxing for a FMJ fight.
Had he said he's retiring if they don't make a fight between him and Margarito, Mosley, etc. then fine. But he didn't, he said FMJ.
He's effectively saying make the FMJ fight as that's all he wants.
Yes he does have something to prove, no one in boxing, and no one alive in this era, will ever give him a pass for not fighting Floyd. If he retires without facing Floyd. Then here Enjoy this Asteriks forever laced by your name *
accept it Floyd will never fight PAC he is soo scared he is pissing his pants when he hears PAC's Name!!
Thats actually a really good point
Pacquiao can retire without taking the tests and claim that Floyd ducked him ( While Floyd is training for Mosley )
The media hates Floyd so much that they'd pin it all on Floyd
I think Pacquiao will try to negotiate with Floyd but something will stop the fight from happening
If Pacquiao retires, i wonder what Floyd/Shane would do
Really?
How did he win FOTY then?
co-sign bro.
Wow, is this kid serious right now? Are you in like 10th grade or something, you just took my post and reworded it, thats about the most childish thing you could do, youre a ******... this is what it really said for everyone to know just to clarify.
I'll name five better than Pacquiao all time right now.
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Sugar Ray Leonard
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Roy Jones Jr
Julio Cesar Chavez
Tommy Hearns
.... The list goes on, Pac has a ways to go before they can start callin him that!
If Pac does retire his retirement would be a lot better than the one Mayweather had.
Mayweather retire when he had yet to face Cotto, Margarito. Mosley, Clottey or De La Hoya in a rematch. So if Pacquiao retires now having accomplish a lot more it doesn't really matter as much. Pac will retire and go into Politics while Floyd retire and did nothing.
well, floyd will never fight him anyways,.....no fight if its 50/50 he said...lol...i hope shne wins so we get to see another great fight before pac retires.....
He said if his PPV does materially better = no 50/50.
I'll name five fighters that Pacquiao is greater than all time right now.
Pacquiao
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Sugar Ray Leonard
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Roy Jones Jr
Julio Cesar Chavez
Tommy Hearns
.... The list goes on, Pac is way above them
co-sign bro.
I think this is depending on this election he is running in. If he wins, it wouldn't surprise me to see Pac retire, even if he ends up coming back later. If he loses, no way he retires.
7 time division champ.
That record will never be broken!
Floyd had his chance against greatness and he pulled out with blood draining bullshit.
PACQUIAO is top 5 ATG,HANDS DOWN!
What does 7 division champ actually mean in this day and age when a guy like David Diaz can hold a belt???
IBO
IBF
WBC
WBO
WBA
In SRR day the WBC is the only one that mattered!!!!!!! To get a belt you likely had to go through some tough SOB to get it!!!!! So in relative terms is Pac's 7 better the SRR 5 or 6 (apologies i forgot how many).
And really he is a 6 weight champ. I have no problem with catchweights......however an ofiicial belt from a weight class should not be allowed to be fought for if u aren't allowed to weigh in at that weight limit. It's common sense not to allow it......just stop and think about how ludicous it really is!!!!
So you can slot Manny at top 5 when there are these names floating around......... names like this:
- SRR
- Duran
- Ali
- Foreman
- Lewis
- Marciano
- Liston
- Jack Johnson
- Sweet Pea
- Marvelous Mavin
- Thomas Hearns
- Henry Armstrong
- Kid Gavilan
- Carmen Basilio
- Willi Pep
- Benny Leonard
- Monzon
- Langford
- Arguellio
- Archie Moore
- Jack Dempsey
- JCC
- Tunney
- Tyson
- Holmes
- James Toney
- Harry Greb
Seriously and u can slot Manny at number 5. Floyd is my favourite active fighter right now.....and i can't even find a place in my top 15 or 20 for him yet.......he may get in if he can beat Shane............
If he can't get Mayweather I would like him to fight Bradley. I know it's a long shot but he should give a young guy a chance. Bradley could end up carrying the torch win or lose, for the sport.
He can fight Floyd real easy , just take a simple test its not hard , in my opinion Roach and Arum didnt want Floyd just yet as both believe Floyd will beat Manny , but they would take the fight as his last fight to cash in ,,,, if Floyd beats Mosley I believe Pac will accept the testing and fight Floyd .
Sorry bro i don't want him to rate that high but that is the truth so i'll just have to agree with them.
I'll name five better than Pacquiao all time right now.
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Sugar Ray Leonard
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Roy Jones Jr
Julio Cesar Chavez
Tommy Hearns
.... The list goes on, Pac has a ways to go before they can start callin him that!
Sorry bro i don't want him to rate that high but that is the truth so i'll just have to agree with them.
You dont rate him that high. you simply do what everyone else does, which is pretend to have a top 5/10 (that you stole from someone else's list) then pretend that somehow, manny has surpassed all these other fighters, when you yourself know little about the sport historically.
So how about this, why is manny top 5, and who is in youre top 10 to put manny in that top 5. thanks.
lmao @ manny fans who think manny is top 5 of all time.
Sorry bro i don't want him to rate that high but that is the truth so i'll just have to agree with them.