The Real Reason Pacquiao-Mayweather Fell Apart?

yes n deed lol

And now he's sparring Steve Forbes... For who? For Clottey?

So you dodge my question. Again, if you agree that the current testing rules are a joke why change them only now? Do believe that if the Pretty Boy dropped his "extra demands" the fight would have happened? No i didnt dodge your question, You try to imply that i said the current testing was a joke which am making you aware of that i didnt, I quote people who did the current testing refer to it as a joke not me them (NSAC former head Dr goodman) Called it a joke. I dont believe the fight would have happen even if Mayweather drop is only the demand in the contract, When you have two fighter negotiating both would come to the table with a few demands, And since the testing was the only big demand require by Mayweather why should he drop it if he feels manny isnt clean during training?? Again Clottey pull out of his own fight 3 weeks before negotiation for Mayweather/Pac went south...That is not a coincidence. Do you think clottey pulling out of his fight and Pac annoucing a fight with clottey was just a coincidence???

(1) Read my post again and you would see the word "According" to the people who do the test themselves consider it a joke. (2) And where in my post ever on boxingscene did i ever accuse Pac of PED or whatever you call it?? It seem you cant have a normal intellectual conversation of discussion without some of you guys throwing your toy out of your pram, Give the "Manny was accuse" BS a rest. Do you think people are really that stupid on why Clottey sudden cancel his fight 3 weeks before the Mayweather/Pacquiao negotiation ran into trouble?? So you dodge my question. Again, if you agree that the current testing rules are a joke why change them only now? Do believe that if the Pretty Boy dropped his "extra demands" the fight would have happened?

If you believe that the current testing rules are a joke why change the rules only now? Give me your best explanation for that. Link me to a post of yours where you complain about the current rules. You are a joke yourself. Wake the f*** up. Where is the evidence linking Pac with PEDs? Show me. (1) Read my post again and you would see the word "According" to the people who do the test themselves consider it a joke. (2) And where in my post ever on boxingscene did i ever accuse Pac of PED or whatever you call it?? It seem you cant have a normal intellectual conversation of discussion without some of you guys throwing your toy out of your pram, Give the "Manny was accuse" BS a rest. Do you think people are really that stupid on why Clottey sudden cancel his fight 3 weeks before the Mayweather/Pacquiao negotiation ran into trouble??

Why is it ridiculous??? Because what i wrote doesnt make Pac look like a god, All Mayweather had to do was drop the PED test(What PED test?) ?? Pac refuse testing period, Saying he agreed far and above the current testing is fine but the current testing is a joke according to the people who run the testing themselves, and agreeing to a test with a cut off days (24) isnt really trying. Team Mayweather made the first move to negotiate for a fight when Roach started the campaign saying Mayweather didnt want to fight them on March 13th so they would be fighting Foreman, At the end of the day the actions of Team Pac/top ranks makes me feel like they realise the fight was too soon for Pac and they try to pull the 10M card which didnt work. They pull out of negotiation, In a very dodgy coincidence Clottey pulled out of his own fight 3 weeks before that..The neutral boxing fans arent stupid, We know whats going on and we are not tied to one fighter. If you believe that the current testing rules are a joke why change the rules only now? Give me your best explanation for that. Link me to a post of yours where you complain about the current rules. You are a joke yourself. Wake the f*** up. Where is the evidence linking Pac with PEDs? Show me.

This is ridiculous. All Mayweather had to do is to drop the PED testing demands. It's not like Pac disagreed completely. As a local Nevada news says during the early negotiations, Pac agreed far and above the current testing rules. In my understanding, the FM team made the first move. March 13, they challenged. (This knowing full well that Pac has just been through a difficult fight with Cotto. Not to mention Pac was deep into politics.) This got Arum excited and went to Manila to convince Pac. Pac said yes. All of a sudden, the mudslinging and vicious accusations started, c/o Mayweather team. It's as if they're surprised that Pac agreed to the March date. Bottom line is the slandering from the PB camp made the negotiations difficult. In the end we have one on the other end so pissed that he's no longer interested in listening. Why is it ridiculous??? Because what i wrote doesnt make Pac look like a god, All Mayweather had to do was drop the PED test(What PED test?) ?? Pac refuse testing period, Saying he agreed far and above the current testing is fine but the current testing is a joke according to the people who run the testing themselves, and agreeing to a test with a cut off days (24) isnt really trying. Team Mayweather made the first move to negotiate for a fight when Roach started the campaign saying Mayweather didnt want to fight them on March 13th so they would be fighting Foreman, At the end of the day the actions of Team Pac/top ranks makes me feel like they realise the fight was too soon for Pac and they try to pull the 10M card which didnt work. They pull out of negotiation, In a very dodgy coincidence Clottey pulled out of his own fight 3 weeks before that..The neutral boxing fans arent stupid, We know whats going on and we are not tied to one fighter.

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This is ridiculous. All Mayweather had to do is to drop the PED testing demands. It's not like Pac disagreed completely. As a local Nevada news says during the early negotiations, Pac agreed far and above the current testing rules. In my understanding, the FM team made the first move. March 13, they challenged. (This knowing full well that Pac has just been through a difficult fight with Cotto. Not to mention Pac was deep into politics.) This got Arum excited and went to Manila to convince Pac. Pac said yes. All of a sudden, the mudslinging and vicious accusations started, c/o Mayweather team. It's as if they're surprised that Pac agreed to the March date. Bottom line is the slandering from the PB camp made the negotiations difficult. In the end we have one on the other end so pissed that he's no longer interested in listening. 1. Mayweather agreed to far and above the penalty to coming in overweight. When you enter serious negotiations, you have to be prepared to make concessions (if you're serious about making the fight). 2. Mayweather wanted May 1st from the beginning, Pacquiao and Arum are the ones that wanted the March 13th date because of the politics issue, to which Mayweather agreed. 3. The "vicious accusations" started even before the negotiations.

the only reason why the fight didn't come off is that floyd is a coward and won't fight anyone he thinks he can't beat. http://trinitypastor.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/broken_record.jpg

Ken Porter, who trains his undefeated junior middleweight son, said he was not as surprised as most that the ballyhooed megamatch between Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. fell apart, reportedly over drug-testing issues. "No, not at all," said Porter, who thinks both fighters wanted more time to prepare before the proposed March 13 date. "We were with Manny after . We rode the team bus four hours back to Los Angeles. He had some injuries. The body needs time to heal and it would have been too soon to go against Mayweather. '"It will happen eventually," Porter said. "But you don't know what's going to happen in between. Then they will build it up." I looked for this with the search and didn't find it. Ken Porter's take on this sounds feasible, but it would mean all that posturing was for nothing. Why would this be ignored? the only reason why the fight didn't come off is that floyd is a coward and won't fight anyone he thinks he can't beat.

When some Pac fans were screaming that Mayweather is ducking Pac after listening to Roach i said it at that time that a March 13th fight would not be in the best interest of Pac or an unbiase fan who is lookiing for a 50-50 fight, Because there is NO way Pac would be ready for Mayweather in March after a brutal fight against Cotto. But all they were doing was screaming just because Roach said Mayweather doesnt want to fight us in March, Mayweather accept the fight then they looked for a way out, They thought they had it with the 10M dollar ridiculous penalty but to everyones surprise Mayweather said yes to that too, They had to go back and reject the same olympic style testing that they had already accept from the beginning. The fight would happen for september and Pac would say yes to testing watch. This is ridiculous. All Mayweather had to do is to drop the PED testing demands. It's not like Pac disagreed completely. As a local Nevada news says during the early negotiations, Pac agreed far and above the current testing rules. In my understanding, the FM team made the first move. March 13, they challenged. (This knowing full well that Pac has just been through a difficult fight with Cotto. Not to mention Pac was deep into politics.) This got Arum excited and went to Manila to convince Pac. Pac said yes. All of a sudden, the mudslinging and vicious accusations started, c/o Mayweather team. It's as if they're surprised that Pac agreed to the March date. Bottom line is the slandering from the PB camp made the negotiations difficult. In the end we have one on the other end so pissed that he's no longer interested in listening.

Yeah, they both want to fight each other, but the March 13 date was just too soon. The elections made everything feel so rushed. Once they have enough time to negotiate, this fight will pull together, probably later on around September. hahahaha!!! holy crap that sig is hilarious. Never realized it's the exact same punch until i seen them side by side.

Yeah, they both want to fight each other, but the March 13 date was just too soon. The elections made everything feel so rushed. Once they have enough time to negotiate, this fight will pull together, probably later on around September.

If the fight happeans later this year, this is basically what went down. If it all goes according to plan that was like a masterpiece of playing the boxing world in the internet age.

this quote was RIGHT AFTER the cotto fight? of course anyone would say that, even manny himself might've, considering the injuries. but he eventually healed a month later and their team officially said manny is healed and ready. lol at the flomos jumping on this thread right away. please use your common sense. This was January 15th, 2010. There's no ****ing propaganda going on here just because it says some shit you don't like, it is what it is.

Maybe but people will also be talking about how great Floyd looked. It would be funny because Floyd would then be defending Manny. ya def a no win for both ...

if the manny does do poorly then many will just make the assumption theres the before and the after ... Maybe but people will also be talking about how great Floyd looked. It would be funny because Floyd would then be defending Manny.

this quote was RIGHT AFTER the cotto fight? of course anyone would say that, even manny himself might've, considering the injuries. but he eventually healed a month later and their team officially said manny is healed and ready. lol at the flomos jumping on this thread right away. please use your common sense.

It is a bad PR move but the public is not always that easy to fool. Straight up if it is some kind of ploy no one in the whole of the US would think they would go this route solely because of the stigma around PED. It is kind of a good plan if that is what they want to accomplish. Besides Manny can just agree to the tests next time, it doesn't completely make it go away especially if the fight goes poorly but Manny will have never tested positive and agreed to the random testing it would be hard to really go after him on the issue. if the manny does do poorly then many will just make the assumption theres the before and the after ...