Who would take this, at their absolute peak? say 88' Tyson vs early 90's Holyfield? would the outcome be the same? discuss :)
I really cant pick a winner in this one, Tyson was a beast back then, but then again, can you really pick against Holyfield? the man has done wonders in the ring. 50/50 for me :boxing:
Tyson wins...... In his prime.... he was probably and possibly could have been the greatest heavyweight we have seen....
That may be a bold statement... but imagine, if he was doing what he did at the age of 20 and stayed as hard working as he was...what he would have been like at 28.....
Its scary to think about
remember when Tyson faught Holyfield, he had been 3 years in prison. Alot of people seems to forget that. Tyson faught McNeely, Buster Mathis and Bruono before taking on Holyfield. Tyson hadnt been hit since he faught Razor Ruddock 4 years prior to that. In hes prime i dont think Tyson would only throw 1 punch like he did almost their entire 1 fight.
Tyson diddnt Quit against tough opponents. He even gave the hard hitting Ruddock a rematch an won 9 rounds and knocked down razor twice.
I belive Tyson would have won, maybe on points. Holyfielda great fighterm byt he had hes moments in almost every fight were he seems to be a bit "off".
I think this is the closest of what i think too. :D
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remember when Tyson faught Holyfield, he had been 3 years in prison. Alot of people seems to forget that. Tyson faught McNeely, Buster Mathis and Bruono before taking on Holyfield. Tyson hadnt been hit since he faught Razor Ruddock 4 years prior to that. In hes prime i dont think Tyson would only throw 1 punch like he did almost their entire 1 fight.
Tyson diddnt Quit against tough opponents. He even gave the hard hitting Ruddock a rematch an won 9 rounds and knocked down razor twice.
I belive Tyson would have won, maybe on points. Holyfielda great fighterm byt he had hes moments in almost every fight were he seems to be a bit "off".
tyson wasn't mentally weak.
even if he was he never quits in the ring.
even when discouraged and losing , tyson kept coming even if what he was doing wasn't working.
all that tyson is mentally weak talk is a load of bs imo.
maybe he was outside the ring personally but he rarely showed it in the ring.
I thought it was obvious, whenever a fighter has stood up to him and taken his best, Tyson gets discouraged. Every time. Even early against the bums whenever one of those bums was able to take the early punishment Tyson slowed down and let himself get clinched and discouraged, he didn't stay at the early round level he always had.
Holyfield would NOT get KOed early, and would beat Tyson's ass more and more as the fight went on.
holyfield was no where near his prime in tyson fight ive heard this crap so much from my mates that are casual tyson fans am a holyfield hardcore fan and seem to be the only one from my area never met another one in person anyway and am 28.holyfield bowe 1 is prime heavyweight evander even in the bowe rematch i thought holyfield was slightly out of prime and as soon has the hair went he was total out of prime the bounce wasnt the same to an extent his movement was slower and his combo punching was also very rare,think how he used to put combos together with such speed against cooper and foreman.
as usual everyone beefs up tyson holyfield beats him everytime cause he wants to win way more
Only difference is that Prime Tyson was a combination pucher, wich Holyfield always has been. this could be the difference, in their two fights Tyson didnt fire off half the combinations he would have 6-7 years earlier. and no, Holyfield wasnt prime either, but he was closer to his prime than Mike was imo.
im still very uncertain of who wins though..
Holyfield takes everything Tyson can dish out and keeps coming, Tyson would start to shrink away because he was mentally weak, and Holyfield stops him late. I have no doubt about this, no one could convince me otherwise.
But he couldn't seriously hurt Tillis and had to go the distance. Which Evander are we fighting? The one that fought Cooper? Dokes? Foreman? Bowe?
Evander had quick hands himself and put punches together well, as well as having a very complete arsenal and a granite chin. On top of all that, he never gave up the way Tyson seemed to in every tough fight....
tyson with an emphasis on actually training, speed, defense and combo punching beats holyfield.......he showed no D against evander in either fight....not enough movement coming in.....and not enough speed......the young iron mike was a much better version than the one in 1996 IMHO and the one in 03 against Lennox...forget about it....about 30% of what he was.
People mistake Tyson for a brawler.....he became more of a one punch brawler after jail...before that the empahsis was on speed, movement and combos......early mike was actually an incredible "BOXER" not brawler........
I voted for Evander. If they fought at Tyson's absolute peak (Spinks fight) then the fight would last more than one round like the Spinks fight did, and Tyson's incredibly short prime would come and go during the course of the fight. In the later rounds, Tyson would no longer be at his peak, and Evander would be able to take advantage of this lol
Seriously though, Evander to me is just too physically and mentally tough to lose to Tyson. Mike IMO didn't have the big power Bowe had and therefore probably couldn't have seriously hurt Evander. To me, that would be Tyson's only shot at winning, so...
I think Holyfield would've still beat him.
I think Holyfield is and has always been just a horrible fight for Tyson. Physically he's stronger (not a harder puncher, but physically stronger) and he's going to push him back. Tyson wouldn't be able to hurt him and the harder he went at Holyfield, the more Evander would've been able to hit him.
In Tyson's prime, at his absolute best, maybe he goes the distance, but I'd go with Holyfield for the win at any time.