1. Amir Khan is Faster than marquez.
2. Amir Khan has more power than marquez.
3. Amir Khan is taller than marquez.
4. Amir Khan has a longer reach than marquez.
3. Freddie Roach.
4. Alex Ariza.
5. Marquez just left his long time trainer nacho berenstein.
6. Marquez is so old he has jesus christ's pager number.
7. Marquez's confidence is shot after getting shut out by floyd.
8. Drinking too much urine causes slight brain damage.
Anyone who real $$ on marquez fight is just plain crazy. I'm betting on khan.
I'll be betting points and real money on Khan winning this fight. Marquez doesn't have enough left in the tank to beat Amir Khan.
i think this is the easiest money bet of the year so far.
this is gonna be an exciting fight. I can see Amir winning the first couple of rounds and JMM the mid rounds. I'm going for Amir though for obvious reasons.
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1. Amir Khan is Faster than marquez.
2. Amir Khan has more power than marquez.
3. Amir Khan is taller than marquez.
4. Amir Khan has a longer reach than marquez.
3. Freddie Roach.
4. Alex Ariza.
5. Marquez just left his long time trainer nacho berenstein.
6. Marquez is so old he has jesus christ's pager number.
7. Marquez's confidence is shot after getting shut out by floyd.
8. Drinking too much urine causes slight brain damage.
Anyone who real $$ on marquez fight is just plain crazy. I'm betting on khan.
It was his brother Rafael that left Nacho. :grumble:
1. Amir Khan is Faster than marquez.
2. Amir Khan has more power than marquez.
3. Amir Khan is taller than marquez.
4. Amir Khan has a longer reach than marquez.
3. Freddie Roach.
4. Alex Ariza.
5. Marquez just left his long time trainer nacho berenstein.
6. Marquez is so old he has jesus christ's pager number.
7. Marquez's confidence is shot after getting shut out by floyd.
8. Drinking too much urine causes slight brain damage.
Anyone who real $$ on marquez fight is just plain crazy. I'm betting on khan.
good to see someone who appreciates khan...alot of people on here forget the fact that hes only 23 and has only just had 1 title defence so far..
Were did i say "big shot"? he hasnt. But marquez isnt going to land a big shot on his chin because he has his defence sorted out and he can out punch juan all night long.
Also people seem to have developed the idea of Khan's glass chin after he got KO'd from a punch that would have knocked out any lightweight in the division.No, we've developed that idea after seeing Khan wobbled by any person to ever hit him with a hard punch.
As I've said before, who has Khan beat to justify any comments suggesting he'll KO Marquez? A guy Mayweather nor Pacquiao could KO, both faster and more powerful than Khan.
Khan's best win is Kotelnik, by a mile and Kotelnik isn't fit to lace the boots of Marquez. When you look back in 15 years time where will Kotelnik be on a lot of ATGs compared to Marquez?
I'd like Khan to win, I don't think a decision is beyond the realms of plausibility for Khan. But just forget any idea that Khan will KO JMM in any fashion. It won't happen. JMM will be there until the last bell, but will Khan? Now we'll see how his chin holds up.
Khan will win this one by decision. Too big, too fast and has enough power in punches to gain the respect of Marquez.
You think? what makes you think Khan has this kind of power?
Genuine question btw.
Exactly, Khans speed is almost a superficial trait that's had a large influence on getting him where he is.
In his early careeer (all but the last couple of fights) his stoppages have all been arm punch flurries by an over-eager hometown ref (and i'm British so i'm not making a xenophobic remark about foreign reffing). He has he ever actually knocked out? and if he HAD KO'd any of these people, then they were hardly of any kind of calibre to judge his power at a high-level.
His speed allowed him to get a decision over a titlist even khan referred to as the weakest ever (or currently? apologies cause i cant remember).
People commend him for his improvement, and he has indeed improved, but i do think the fact he beat Kotelnik of all people, and flattend Salita (a guy dropped by people with single digit KO percentages) REALLY flatter him; I don't think these show legitimately how great he is/could be.
His footwork though, as an outright fact, sbsolutely sucks. And I think footwork is predominantly a god-given thing. Sure you can train it like anyything, but if you aint got it from birth, you'll never be great at it. I look at Khan and his robotic, linear motions, and his appaling ring (and real life) IQ and just think he'll never progress with his footwork.
Which as I said seplls absolute doom when you face a veterain like JMM.
JMM will weigh in much lighter than the Floyd fight, o he'll be less sluggish and will be able to pull the trigger better than his last outing.
If the fight is at 140 he'll probably come in like 137 or something.
JMM has shown that speed doesn't outright trump him; he lasted 24 rounds with Pacman (in two fights that some may argue he should have got the nod) and he lasted 12 against Mayweather. Mayweather is more experienced, infinitely more dimensional and FAr better at EVERYTHING than Khan, and JMM still landed on him. The shot that Marquez landed on Floyd in round 2 would level Khan easily.
Khan may have the edge in speed, reach and size, but Marquez is ****ing tough and he has incredible skills; enough skills infact to hang with people that have great advantages over him.
The biggest thing here though is Khans footwork and his output; firstly Khans footwork outright blows, and that is NOT a trait you want to have when fighting someone like JMM. Secondly, khan does have great speed, but his power is pretty low on the scale and after the first few rounds his punches do notably lose their steam. If JMM can get into the middle rounds, he'll take over from there.
Good Points.But offensively i reckon Amir has improved way more than we've seen since the Kotelnik fight but the quick win over a poor opponent(Salita) has kind of masked the power he has developed.As Alex ariza was talking about working on strength in both hands prior to the last fight.
Come the day of the fight anything could happen. But my bet would be with Khan
JMM will weigh in much lighter than the Floyd fight, o he'll be less sluggish and will be able to pull the trigger better than his last outing.
If the fight is at 140 he'll probably come in like 137 or something.
The biggest thing here though is Khans footwork and his output; firstly Khans footwork outright blows, and that is NOT a trait you want to have when fighting someone like JMM. Secondly, khan does have great speed, but his power is pretty low on the scale and after the first few rounds his punches do notably lose their steam.
Great points.... I've been saying the same thing on both accounts for awhile but people are so stupid they only hear what they want to hear.
I wouldn't surprised if JMM comes into the fight at 135. I def do agree though that there is 0 chance that he weighs in at 140. People act like because the limit is 140 that JMM has to weigh in at that number and then fight terribly because of it.
I also agree that Khan's footwork is terrible. Yet his fans talk about speed, speed, speed. The only reason Khan's footwork has sufficed is because he has been fighting opponents too pathetic to do anything about it.
His hand speed is actually neutralized by his poor footwork. Khan cannot fight going backward because he is always running and not moving his feet like he should. His terrible footwork also prevents him from sitting down on his punches because he is too concerned with being able to get up on his toes and run if he has to.
Were did i say "big shot"? he hasnt. But marquez isnt going to land a big shot on his chin because he has his defence sorted out and he can out punch juan all night long.
Also people seem to have developed the idea of Khan's glass chin after he got KO'd from a punch that would have knocked out any lightweight in the division.
Mayweathers defence is far superior and JMM landed on him still. Khan isn't a defensive genius and his footwork sucks, JMM will land even more, and even better on Khan than he did Floyd.
Khan was wobbled by a ****ing jab, and Prescott has since been shown up to have no where near the power people would like to believe he has.
not only was khan beaten by this guy, but he was absolutely ****ing annihilated; he dropped like a sack of shit and was in la-la land. the next time he went down he was practically paralysed.
And this is also ignoring that featherfisted people that he dwarved still dropped him.
And thats also avoiding the mention how he was sparked in the amateurs badly, even with ehadgear and pillow gloves on. i know thats only the Ams but it does serve to show that the dude just cannot take a temple shot for the life of him.
JMM will weigh in much lighter than the Floyd fight, o he'll be less sluggish and will be able to pull the trigger better than his last outing.
If the fight is at 140 he'll probably come in like 137 or something.
JMM has shown that speed doesn't outright trump him; he lasted 24 rounds with Pacman (in two fights that some may argue he should have got the nod) and he lasted 12 against Mayweather. Mayweather is more experienced, infinitely more dimensional and FAr better at EVERYTHING than Khan, and JMM still landed on him. The shot that Marquez landed on Floyd in round 2 would level Khan easily.
Khan may have the edge in speed, reach and size, but Marquez is ****ing tough and he has incredible skills; enough skills infact to hang with people that have great advantages over him.
The biggest thing here though is Khans footwork and his output; firstly Khans footwork outright blows, and that is NOT a trait you want to have when fighting someone like JMM. Secondly, khan does have great speed, but his power is pretty low on the scale and after the first few rounds his punches do notably lose their steam. If JMM can get into the middle rounds, he'll take over from there.
Name me a specific instance where Khan took a big shot on the chin and shrugged it off.
I have all his fights downloaded and I would love to see this.
My guess is you're gonna say "Well there was this one time in the Kotelnik fight when he took 3 cleans jabs in the space of a minute.... blah blah blah"
I certainly hope you have something better than that.
Were did i say "big shot"? he hasnt. But marquez isnt going to land a big shot on his chin because he has his defence sorted out and he can out punch juan all night long.
Also people seem to have developed the idea of Khan's glass chin after he got KO'd from a punch that would have knocked out any lightweight in the division.