Clottey. The guy who lost to Baldomir.

1. mosley 2. pacquiao 3. mayweather 4. cotto 5. clottey that's how it stands right now. mosley at the time was locked in a fight with berto. he just beat cotto. mayweather couldn't get done. clottey was next in line. yupppppppppp

Floyd also be Judah & Corrales. Better versions If I may add. Is Floyd world class? Those are considered big wins for him. Corrales is his biggest win even according to some. If that's his biggest win, and Colottey whooped on him too, how is he also not world class? He's certainly better than Clottey, but Clottey is damn good and a top WW. Stop being antagonistic for the sake of it.

Clottey should've beaten Baldomir, but he choked it away. Same thing against Cotto. Knowing him, he'll probably do it again against Manny. He did manage to find a bigger choker than him when he fought Judah.

The thing is, doesn't boxrec show the score before the stoppage? I mean unless Hater can't understand that Baldomir was down pretty big. I mean if you are gonna boxrec, there's really like a line or two to read. He's probably illiterate.

In all seriousness, Clottey whipped on Baldomir more than anyone has since. He absolutely hammered him from pillar to post. I honestly thought that was going to be stopped at times when Baldomir was getting blasted around. A real pity that he got DQ'd, especially as it was as much the fault of Baldomir as it was Clottey. Anyway, TS is a douche. Obviously hasn't seen the fight. As Pink pointed out, it's like saying Roy Jones lost to Montell Griffin.

sigh....If TS had only watched any of these fights.....:3some: ok new poster with already red k. Why not explain these fights and what TS needed to know before making this post.

Clottey DID lose to Baldomir, and in legit fashion as well. He was warned about 7 times, and had three points taken away before he was DQ'd. A completely just decision. And anyone who says Clottey is a top five welter needs to re-evaluate their ranking system. Mayweather Pac Cotto Mosley Berto. Clottey is a GOOD fighter, dont get me wrong. But the dude is coming of a loss and has done nothing in his career to show he is capable of beating world class opp.

sigh....If TS had only watched any of these fights.....:3some: Look at how many more post I have on this 1 boxing site than you. Look at how much time I spend talking about boxing, passionately debating boxing & reviewing different fighters accomplishments. If you honestly think I have not watched the fights you are an idiot & if I watched the fight or not it doesn't change the fact that Clottey has lost to mostly all the top WWs he ever fought.

This T.S is whack... Ill state some facts right here... Manny Pacquiao: 1) WBC World Lightweight champion, 2) WBC World Super Featherweight champion, 3) IBF World Super Bantamweight champion, 4) WBC World Flyweight champion, 5) Ring Magazine Featherweight champion, 6) Ring Magazine Super Featherweight Champion, 7) Current WBO World Welterweight champion　 8) Ring Magazine The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year, 9) Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Decade Award, 10) 2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association Of America Fighter of the Year, 11) 2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year, 12) 2008 and 2009 The Ring Magazine #1 Pound For Pound (year-end), 13) 5-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year, 14) 2008 and 2009 BoxingScene.com Fighter of the Year, 15) 2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year, 16) 2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year, 17) 2008 WBC Boxer of the Year, 18) 2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year, 19) 2008 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions, 20) 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year, 　 21) 2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year, 22) 2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter, 23) 2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category), 24) 2009 TIME Magazine cover for November issue, 25) 2009 Forbes Magazine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th), 26) 2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade, 27) 2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade, 28) 2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year, 29) 2009 The Ring Magazine Knockout of the Year, 30) 2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight, 31) 2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked 2nd), 32) 2009 Bloomberg 100 Most Powerful Athletes(ranked #72 against Floyd's #91), 33) 2009 WBC Fighter of the Year, 34) 2009 Top 20 Highest Paid Atheletes(ranked 6th together with Lebron James and Phil Mickelson) 35) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Year 36) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Decade LMAO. You are really stupid to take so much time to make a post that has nothing to with this thread. This thread is about Clottey being paraded as a top of the line WW despite the fact he has lost to all the top WWs he ever fought like Baldomir, Margarito, Cotto.

I keep making you feel stupid because you can't argue against facts. Some advice. State some real facts in a debate & you won't look so stupid. How are you making me feel stupid? You're an idiot for assuming. I never disagreed on anything or claimed Clottey won the fight against Baldomir. You have the same delusional mentality as your idol Floyd. As far as facts, let me see some proof that a majority of boxing writers is discrediting Floyd's accomplishment.

This T.S is whack... Ill state some facts right here... Manny Pacquiao: 1) WBC World Lightweight champion, 2) WBC World Super Featherweight champion, 3) IBF World Super Bantamweight champion, 4) WBC World Flyweight champion, 5) Ring Magazine Featherweight champion, 6) Ring Magazine Super Featherweight Champion, 7) Current WBO World Welterweight champion　 8) Ring Magazine The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year, 9) Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Decade Award, 10) 2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association Of America Fighter of the Year, 11) 2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year, 12) 2008 and 2009 The Ring Magazine #1 Pound For Pound (year-end), 13) 5-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year, 14) 2008 and 2009 BoxingScene.com Fighter of the Year, 15) 2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year, 16) 2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year, 17) 2008 WBC Boxer of the Year, 18) 2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year, 19) 2008 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions, 20) 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year, 　 21) 2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year, 22) 2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter, 23) 2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category), 24) 2009 TIME Magazine cover for November issue, 25) 2009 Forbes Magazine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th), 26) 2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade, 27) 2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade, 28) 2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year, 29) 2009 The Ring Magazine Knockout of the Year, 30) 2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight, 31) 2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked 2nd), 32) 2009 Bloomberg 100 Most Powerful Athletes(ranked #72 against Floyd's #91), 33) 2009 WBC Fighter of the Year, 34) 2009 Top 20 Highest Paid Atheletes(ranked 6th together with Lebron James and Phil Mickelson) 35) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Year 36) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Decade

Where the f.uck is the ts? He went home to actually watch the fight Roger. :D

You're so delusional that it's not even worth having a discussion with you. Carry on with your HaterFree ways. I keep making you feel stupid because you can't argue against facts. Some advice. State some real facts in a debate & you won't look so stupid.

Champions are made in the ring homie not by a sports writer. Pac is a champion because of ring accomplishments not because of some fat a$$ racist sport writers. Majority of the same writers will try every angle to discredit Floyd Mayweathers ring accomplishments but his world titles, record, & PPV records speak volumes. You're so delusional that it's not even worth having a discussion with you. Carry on with your HaterFree ways.

Lets play a game, who is recently announced the boxer of the decade? Champions are made in the ring homie not by a sports writer. Pac is a champion because of ring accomplishments not because of some fat a$$ racist sport writers. Majority of the same writers will try every angle to discredit Floyd Mayweathers ring accomplishments but his world titles, record, & PPV records speak volumes.

No intelligent facts to state about boxing. I know you don't, fucking teenage boxrec warrior. But I'll enlighten you. If you actually watch fights instead of googling the results, you might learn something. You see, history only sees official results, not detailed facts. I suppose you think Casamayor beat Santa Cruz Griffin beat Roy Jones Bowe beat Golota Chavez-Whitaker was a draw You know, because trusty old boxrec told you so. I hate fakeass fans like you. If you don't know shit, don't say shit.

It must hurt to know yo boy is fighting a guy that his 2 biggest victories came against guys Floyd had already banged. Corrales & Judah. Lets play a game, who is recently announced the boxer of the decade?

Clottey headbutt were affecting Baldomir. FACT. Clottey lost to Baldomir FACT Clottey's best win over a shot Judah in which he struggled FACT. He couldn't stop Corrales :lol1: The haters can't stand it when real fans get on here & state the facts.

Don't talk your bullshit if you haven't watched the fight. It must hurt to know yo boy is fighting a guy that his 2 biggest victories came against guys Floyd had already banged. Corrales & Judah.

The TS was browsing Clottey's boxrec and saw he lost the fight to Baldomir but he's never actually seen the fight.