How Successful Will "The Event" Be?

1.25 Mill ... yes I am serious. lol.............................................................................

Mayweather has said every fighter will be required to take the tests if they want a fight with him and it doesnt look like hes budging from that stance, that is much easier than trying to sway things politically with the NSAC. If mayweather wants it like that, hes free to do it, and to me, if pac has nothing to hide, it wont be an issue and i can garuntee you every other fighter will cooperate and no matter what, if mayweather blows pacquiao out in the PPV buy competition upcoming, wins decisively against a good opponent in mosley, mayweather (shockingly) will actually have some leverage in this instance, unlike before where he was coming off of a win off JMM and pac with Cotto. Thats actually a great point. If he does like 1.4 or something like that with Mosley and Pac does 600k with Clottey. Floyd will not accept 50-50. That will be off the table. Floyd would have big time leverage.

Look .. I have no problem with blood or more test to catch cheats.. The problem I have is the way Mayweather and his team wanted to clean up the sport.. They started a modern day witch hunt trying to slander Pac. Then all the Floyd fan jump on Pac for not accepting his demands.. But Pac says he will take all the random blood test if NSAC says its needed.. Now if Floyd went straight to NSAC and said he wanted to clean the sport with random blood test starting with his fight.. instead of attacking Pac with alligation of Ped used.. we wouldnt be having this debate.. Mayweather has said every fighter will be required to take the tests if they want a fight with him and it doesnt look like hes budging from that stance, that is much easier than trying to sway things politically with the NSAC. If mayweather wants it like that, hes free to do it, and to me, if pac has nothing to hide, it wont be an issue and i can garuntee you every other fighter will cooperate and no matter what, if mayweather blows pacquiao out in the PPV buy competition upcoming, wins decisively against a good opponent in mosley, mayweather (shockingly) will actually have some leverage in this instance, unlike before where he was coming off of a win off JMM and pac with Cotto.

I mean look. I'm just going to say this. In Olympic track and field athletes get tested for PEDs the day of competition on a regular basis. They still win...and sometimes they end up admitting use years later. The same thing happens in competitive cycling. The tests are necessary. Unless you don't care about PED use in the sport, which is a popular opinion. That said, Shane Mosley has never failed a PED test, but we know that he used. Why? Because he got rolled up in a federal investigation looking into steroid use by baseball players (whuups, right?). Same thing happened to Evander Holyfield (again, whuups). Yet, this hasn't spawned anything resembling a movement to better testing. Why? Probably money and lack of coordination. There isn't enough money in most fights and not enough people dedicated to working diligently to make sure the sport's participants are clean. The tests are necessary...just not usually cost effective. If you don't want to, at the very least, accept that fact then we're not having a debate and I could not care less what your response is. Look .. I have no problem with blood or more test to catch cheats.. The problem I have is the way Mayweather and his team wanted to clean up the sport.. They started a modern day witch hunt trying to slander Pac. Then all the Floyd fan jump on Pac for not accepting his demands.. But Pac says he will take all the random blood test if NSAC says its needed.. Now if Floyd went straight to NSAC and said he wanted to clean the sport with random blood test starting with his fight.. instead of attacking Pac with alligation of Ped used.. we wouldnt be having this debate..

Full Disclosure: I'm a Mayweather fan; I wouldn't call myself a Pacquiao hater, but I'm sure a lot of Pacquiao fans would and that's fine, whatever. My thing is this; Pacquiao walked away from the Mayweather fight. That's the truth of the matter. It may have been over principle or whatever, but Pacquiao walked away. He had a deal in place to fight Clottey probably after weeks of negotiation, while pretending to still be compromising on drug testing that he knew came nowhere near meeting the Mayweather position. So, having walked away from the Mayweather fight, Pacquiao's main trump card in future negotiations with Mayweather will, ostensibly, be that Pacquiao is a bigger draw, more popular and exciting fighter, etc. Fine, whatever. But here's my question, with all this talk of how popular Pacquiao is how success is "The Event" actually going to be. 25,000 tickets basically went to brokers/scalpers in hopes that the fight would sellout. But with Clottey, not Mayweather, in the other corner, what if the fight doesn't sell out? And even with popular ticket sellers like John Duddy, Jose Luis Castillo, Salvador Sanchez, Alfonso Gomez and others constantly being added to the undercard, what if those 25,000 tickets don't all get picked up? Ultimately, they're going to be given away dirt cheap. And this is not a diss against Clottey, but do we really expect 1 mil PPV buys with Clottey? I give him a very good chance of winning, but Pacquiao fans aren't necessarily going to think so. Many of them think Pacquiao would knock anyone out and since many of those people have never heard of Clottey...well you know. What happens if "The Event" just does ok? Maybe 30-35,000 semi papered crowd. Somewhere between 500-600k in PPV buys and Clottey wins 5 round or so. The money, the buys and the appeal of the fight won't match Mayweather-Mosley. Because whether it's fair or not, Mosley is considered more of a live dog than Clottey (personally, I think Clottey has a better chance of beating Pacquiao than Mosley does of beating Mayweather, but I'm probably one of few). So, even if Mayweather has trouble, a win will be considered impressive. If the money for "The Event" is just fairly good, but dwarfs in comparison to Mayweather-Mosley and the prospective Mayweather-Pacquiao fight and Pacquiao struggles to beat Clottey (or God forbid, loses to Clottey) then was all of this pride against the so-called "Mayweather Rules" really worth it? At the end of the day, Pacquiao walked away from the Mayweather fight and unless "The Event" is a huge blockbuster and an amazing fight, it was probably the wrong thing to do. If Pacquiao is really a good draw I think with a guy like Clottey 750k would be very good... everything over it even more... I said the same about May-Marquez... I was really shocked that the fight did 1 mil

i never said ALL mexicans support pac. even some filipinos hate pac. Majority of PPV sales come from the hispanic community cuz jus like TS said, they will watch anyone that bring entertaining fights. nobody knows who the majority of PPV sales come from, with no polling data and no statiscal measure to prove that, thats just a gross assumption.

everybody knows that. itll happen end of 2010. Yeah, if Pacquiao comes to his senses. He let his pride get the better of him. The fight should be happening on March 13 or May 1. That's what I'm saying. What's it going to be next? Running for President of the Philipines?

I doubt many Mexicans will buy the fight to see Castillo-Gomez though. That fight might bring in a few more sales at the gate, but the PPV is going on the strength of Pacquiao-Clottey. The undercard is $hitty. Saul Alvarez and Victor Ortiz are the types of fighters people from where I'm from are excited about. Hopefully, at least one of them is in a legit good fight on Mayweather-Mosley. Saul Alvarez is almost as popular as Mystico right now, when i was in mexico he was probably the most talked about fighter in the state.

this is what i call pure hate. were not talking about a zab judah vs a nobody fight. I can see about 50-60k gate sales, i dont think itll sell the 100k arena seats. PPVwise, i think itll be around the million mark. i jus found out mexican families do the pinoy parties as well during pac fights. Mexicans will put in their full support on Pac (they love pac!) and the mexican stacked undercard. So if the floyd/JMM can break a million (no doubt 90% of the buys came from the hispanic community), this also will. I never understand how people assume mexicans love and back pacquiao, my girlfriend is from mexico and her family cant stand him. When i was in guadalajara jalisco the few times i spoke boxing most of them who knew who pacquiao was had some interesting choice words for him, mostly oddly enough, what you would read on here abotu him being asian/midget etc etc There is very little evidence that somehow suggests that mexicans have this full on support from pacquiao. i dont doubt some mexicans like him, but i dont see this overwhelming support from them.

now we are on the same page! why do you think arum is stacking the event with mexican fighters as undercards??? I doubt many Mexicans will buy the fight to see Castillo-Gomez though. That fight might bring in a few more sales at the gate, but the PPV is going on the strength of Pacquiao-Clottey. The undercard is $hitty. Saul Alvarez and Victor Ortiz are the types of fighters people from where I'm from are excited about. Hopefully, at least one of them is in a legit good fight on Mayweather-Mosley.

I keep seeing people tearing down the Pac-Clottey fight as though it's an insult. I'm also disappointed Pac-PBF was halted. But as a boxing fan I will not complain about Pac fighting Clottey. GTFO and go watch MMA if you aren't interested in 2 top WW's squaring off.

I doubt it will crack a mill, but close to it 800k to 1M is good. And with the Texas folks having the opportunity to see a pacquaio fight, live gate can be big. It also helps that the stadium is so bad ass. I mean, if you have never been to the new stadium, now is a good a time as any. I was just thinking about the whole scalping of tickets though, these guys scoop up tickets because they crank the price when it is sold out, with the capability of the stadium increasing seats, i doubt this is smart of them. I think the potential of this "event" is very underrated they have the atmosphere, stadium, jerry jones (a very powerful man)a undercard full of mexicans, and pac. Expectations aren't very high in this fight, therefore it will exceed such expectations. It's funny though the home of "america's" team is hosting a card full of foreigners :smashfrea From the Jerry Jones and Bob Arum perspective, even if it doesn't do well on PPV, the live crowd, atmosphere, etc. being built up is an investment in big events like this in the future. They're guaranteed to make millions with the promise of potential huge fights in the future. That said, I think it's dumb on Pacquiao's end because a fight with Mayweather would have been bigger and Clottey is no joke.

exacly. to get his nations support. it was clear to see that JMM was relying on floyd to sell the fight in july but it went the other way around. Floyd relied on mexicans to sell the fight Dude, Honest to God truth, no PPV is a success if Mexicans don't buy the fight in large numbers. BUT you don't get to 1 million buys on Mexican homes alone. That's the truth. Take it for what you will.

Mayweather walked away form Pac.. Its not friday but I guess ur parting already...May walked away from Pac LMAO

Full Disclosure: I'm a Mayweather fan; I wouldn't call myself a Pacquiao hater, but I'm sure a lot of Pacquiao fans would and that's fine, whatever. My thing is this; Pacquiao walked away from the Mayweather fight. That's the truth of the matter. It may have been over principle or whatever, but Pacquiao walked away. He had a deal in place to fight Clottey probably after weeks of negotiation, while pretending to still be compromising on drug testing that he knew came nowhere near meeting the Mayweather position. So, having walked away from the Mayweather fight, Pacquiao's main trump card in future negotiations with Mayweather will, ostensibly, be that Pacquiao is a bigger draw, more popular and exciting fighter, etc. Fine, whatever. But here's my question, with all this talk of how popular Pacquiao is how success is "The Event" actually going to be. 25,000 tickets basically went to brokers/scalpers in hopes that the fight would sellout. But with Clottey, not Mayweather, in the other corner, what if the fight doesn't sell out? And even with popular ticket sellers like John Duddy, Jose Luis Castillo, Salvador Sanchez, Alfonso Gomez and others constantly being added to the undercard, what if those 25,000 tickets don't all get picked up? Ultimately, they're going to be given away dirt cheap. And this is not a diss against Clottey, but do we really expect 1 mil PPV buys with Clottey? I give him a very good chance of winning, but Pacquiao fans aren't necessarily going to think so. Many of them think Pacquiao would knock anyone out and since many of those people have never heard of Clottey...well you know. What happens if "The Event" just does ok? Maybe 30-35,000 semi papered crowd. Somewhere between 500-600k in PPV buys and Clottey wins 5 round or so. The money, the buys and the appeal of the fight won't match Mayweather-Mosley. Because whether it's fair or not, Mosley is considered more of a live dog than Clottey (personally, I think Clottey has a better chance of beating Pacquiao than Mosley does of beating Mayweather, but I'm probably one of few). So, even if Mayweather has trouble, a win will be considered impressive. If the money for "The Event" is just fairly good, but dwarfs in comparison to Mayweather-Mosley and the prospective Mayweather-Pacquiao fight and Pacquiao struggles to beat Clottey (or God forbid, loses to Clottey) then was all of this pride against the so-called "Mayweather Rules" really worth it? At the end of the day, Pacquiao walked away from the Mayweather fight and unless "The Event" is a huge blockbuster and an amazing fight, it was probably the wrong thing to do. I doubt it will crack a mill, but close to it 800k to 1M is good. And with the Texas folks having the opportunity to see a pacquaio fight, live gate can be big. It also helps that the stadium is so bad ass. I mean, if you have never been to the new stadium, now is a good a time as any. I was just thinking about the whole scalping of tickets though, these guys scoop up tickets because they crank the price when it is sold out, with the capability of the stadium increasing seats, i doubt this is smart of them. I think the potential of this "event" is very underrated they have the atmosphere, stadium, jerry jones (a very powerful man)a undercard full of mexicans, and pac. Expectations aren't very high in this fight, therefore it will exceed such expectations. It's funny though the home of "america's" team is hosting a card full of foreigners :smashfrea

I don't care as long as the fight is entertaining. I see a lot of talk about money on this forum. None of that matters, or should matter anyway. I just want my money's worth when I tune in to a fight. And I believe Pac-Clottey will deliver more action than a Pac-Floyd fight would have.

youre the exception i guess... the subway lady next door says she loves pac and her big family has fiestas eveytime he fights. she dont know shit about boxing but when i mentioned pac, she brightened up. All the mexicans that watched JMM-Floyd at the casino (packed by mexicans BTW) gives hella props to pac. Top Ranks reception in mexico for "the event" was reported a success. how can u say i cant generalize when its right there in my face? Because you're acting as though Mexicans will support Pacquiao-Clottey and shun Mayweather-Mosley because they love Pacquiao. Dude, I'm Mexican. I bet I know hundreds if not thousands more Mexicans than you. Many Mexicans do love Pacquiao. You know what though? Many Mexicans love Shane Mosley too. You know what else? Many many Mexicans just love a good fight. Most Mexicans could honestly give two $hits who is fighting as long as it promises to be a fun fight to watch. But you said, Mexicans will throw their full support behind Pacquiao because they love him. Then you said, I'm the exception among Mexicans. Like you know Mexicans so much better than I do. You want to know something. At my house I've had at least a dozen Mexicans over to watch Mayweather-Gatti, Mayweather-DLH and Mayweather-Hatton. I went to Vegas with about 5 other Mexicans to watch Mayweather-Judah. You think Mexicans don't watch Mayweather? Mexicans watch boxing you idiot. They don't like Mayweather, but they watch him anyway. You think that's going to stop for the Mosley fight? LOL

I think the PPV will do about 800k buys. I don't think the live gate number will be huge but with the $50 tickets they should have a good crowd on hand.

Im sure that 'The Event'will be quite successfull as arguably the best p4p fighter is involved. Im a huge floyd fan but youve got to accept that pacquiao-clottey will to good on the ppv buys. I see maybe just under 1 million buys for 'The Event'. I think that Mayweather-Mosley is a far bigger fight, because 90% of the boxing community want Shane to pull off the win. I belive that the mayweathr-mosley fight will generate 1.5 million ppv buys if not more. Lets just enhoy some great boxing coming up in the next few months.

Mexican Day Parade? Try the weekend of Mexican Independence Day. But don't act like Mayweather is the only fighter who's fought a Mexican fighter in a big money fight on that weekend. He's just the only one who gets $hit for it. Doesnt Cotto purposely fight around PR day parades?? Isnt he always in NY?